Do you believe the scriptures?

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RichardBurger

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Can you really say you believe the scriptures in the Bible and not believe what they actually say?????

James 1:1
1 James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad: Greetings. NKJV

The above was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
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Below is the same verse re-written, by man, to make it written to the grace church as well.

James 1:1
1 James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad and to the Gentiles: Greetings.

Which way is correct, the Holy Spirit’s way or man’s way?
 

bigape

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Hello RichardBurger

I am not sure that I get your point; unless you are pointing out how whenever man messes around with God’s Word, he ends up adding to it or taking away from it.

With that I agree!
 

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Hello RichardBurger

I am not sure that I get your point; unless you are pointing out how whenever man messes around with God’s Word, he ends up adding to it or taking away from it.

With that I agree!

How could you miss the point. It is simple. Man says he believes every word in the scriptures but when it comes to a scripture that does not say what he wants it to say, he make it say what he wants it to say.

The first verse in the book of James says who Jame is writting, (to the Jews) but religious man adds words to make it address the Gentile too. If you can agree okay, if not why?

Religions use the book of James to support a requirement of works which they say those under grace have to do in order to have faith. Having works was true under the Law of Moses but not under grace.
 

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Can you really say you believe the scriptures in the Bible and not believe what they actually say?????

James 1:1
1 James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad: Greetings. NKJV

The above was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
******

Below is the same verse re-written, by man, to make it written to the grace church as well.

James 1:1
1 James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad and to the Gentiles: Greetings.

Which way is correct, the Holy Spirit’s way or man’s way?


I support you on this point. James was preaching to the 12 scattered tribes. They were still under the Law if they wanted to follow James and his teaching. This is why he could preach faith plus works. They are still under the law. I do not support the two gospel thing which you are rumored to support, but yea.... James was at odds with Paul's teaching. In the end, it works out because James was carrying a message to the scattered. Well, I ain't scattered!

James was a fine man. According to history he died for believing his half brother was God. He died in the name of Christ. But he was not an apostle, nor did he understand Jesus' message. The overwhelming majority of churches today are still following his message. They still believe in faith plus works.

By the way, if you believe the Council at Jerusalem -- you know, when James supposedly gave permission to Paul to preach to the gentiles-- you are mistaken. Paul never asked anyone for permission and he did not think highly of the conversations. They added nothing to him and he was going to keep on doing what Jesus Christ told him to do wether James approved of it or not. The best I can say about that conference is that it kept Paul from getting arrested. That's about all. Other than that, it achieve nothing.
 

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How could you miss the point. It is simple. Man says he believes every word in the scriptures but when it comes to a scripture that does not say what he wants it to say, he make it say what he wants it to say.

The first verse in the book of James says who Jame is writting, (to the Jews) but religious man adds words to make it address the Gentile too. If you can agree okay, if not why?

Religions use the book of James to support a requirement of works which they say those under grace have to do in order to have faith. Having works was true under the Law of Moses but not under grace.

You add the words(to the Jews), when the verses does not say "the Jews".
Sure the 12 tribes he is talking about, used to be Jews, but now they are Christians.

Christians are neither Jews or Gentiles; We are "the Church of God"!
Made up of former Jews and Gentiles.

This letter was written for Christians: And just because you don't understand it's teachings, you are trying to make it something that it is not.
 

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You add the words(to the Jews), when the verses does not say "the Jews".
Sure the 12 tribes he is talking about, used to be Jews, but now they are Christians.

Christians are neither Jews or Gentiles; We are "the Church of God"!
Made up of former Jews and Gentiles.

This letter was written for Christians: And just because you don't understand it's teachings, you are trying to make it something that it is not.

Thanks for saying I don't understand the scriptures. I can see where you are coming from by those words.

By the way who was scatterd abroad, it was the "twelve tribes which are scattered abroad' and those were the Jews.

Since you have already said that you will not believe anything I write because you disagree with it, I see no reason to reply to you. So in the future if I ignor what you write you know why.