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I don't have hatred for any man, yet you put the words in my mouth. Why is my belief that the white race are the true chosen of the bible? What is so different in you believing that the jews are someone they are not? ...


Ummmmmm, actually, Israelsson, you put those words in your own mouth:


Topic: "Jews", pg. 4, Post #106
http://www.christian...ws/page__st__90

I carry no hate in my heart for anyone except those that hate Yahshua Christ. ...


Now I suspect you and "TheWaris1" will argue that a Jew has no "spirit", and thus is NOT a "man". And so the evil which is in your heart is justified by your twisted logic.

But your (and "TheWarIs1") rationalizations will not prevail when your words and deeds are accounted for at the feet of Jesus. For He knows who your father is (satan), and HE will allow you to enjoy that company for eternity.




To All,

Scripture says that after having attempted to correct such a one, we are to remove ourselves from them and turn them over for the destruction of their flesh:


1 Corinthians 5:5

[sup]1[/sup] It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named[sup][[/sup][sup]a[/sup][sup]][/sup] among the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! [sup]2[/sup] And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you. [sup]3[/sup] For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed. [sup]4[/sup] In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, [sup]5[/sup] deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.[sup][[/sup][sup]b[/sup][sup]][/sup]


1 Timothy 1:20

[sup]18[/sup] This charge I commit to you, son Timothy, according to the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you may wage the good warfare, [sup]19[/sup] having faith and a good conscience, which some having rejected, concerning the faith have suffered shipwreck, [sup]20[/sup] of whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I delivered to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme.



And so we must judge within the church accordingly:


1 Corinthians 5

King James Version (KJV)
[sup]12[/sup]For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
[sup]13[/sup]But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.




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I don't have hatred for any man, yet you put the words in my mouth.

Why is my belief that the white race are the true chosen of the bible? What is so different in you believing that the jews are someone they are not?


It doesn't matter what YOU believe. Where's the Scripture reference?
 

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Christ has come and made all one in him.

To believe that a certain race is favored is to believe that God is a respecter of persons. Christ loves all, and wishes for all to come to him. :)
 

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To believe that a certain race is favored is to believe that God is a respecter of persons. ...


Hey Prentis,

Here we are, days later, -- and I'm still struck by the TRUTH of your statement. For where these murderers judge people by ~groups~, GOD judges the individual by his/her heart. Thus where they presume to be covered by their ~group~, they will be judged individually, regardless of how pointy their hat and/or head are, or what thread-count their sheets are, or who told them to hate GOD's children.

And so to hide from the pending wrath of GOD, they create new god, a god of racism in all it's forms, including the accompanying false religiosity which Scripture warns us of:

Romans 11:25-32
[sup]25[/sup] For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. [sup]26[/sup] And so all Israel will be saved,[sup][[/sup][sup]g[/sup][sup]][/sup] as it is written:

“ The Deliverer will come out of Zion,
And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
[sup]27[/sup] For this is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”[sup][[/sup][sup]h[/sup][sup]][/sup]

[sup]28[/sup] Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. [sup]29[/sup] For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. [sup]30[/sup] For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, [sup]31[/sup] even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy. [sup]32[/sup] For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.


1 John 2:9-10
[sup]9[/sup] He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now. [sup]10[/sup] He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him. [sup]11[/sup] But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.




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you're an idiot.

My brothers are white skinned, all born of Adam. God does judge a man by the content of their heart, but He only chose Israel and the Adamic race to do so with. There is no universalism in scripture, so believe what you will. You take your milk and drink it till you become fat, but you will always only see a distorted version of what is truth.
 

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you're an idiot.

My brothers are white skinned, all born of Adam. God does judge a man by the content of their heart, but He only chose Israel and the Adamic race to do so with. There is no universalism in scripture, so believe what you will. You take your milk and drink it till you become fat, but you will always only see a distorted version of what is truth.

My brothers are born of one Spirit, all born of Christ. They are recognized by their love for each other. :)

The God of all things bless you!
 

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you're an idiot.

My brothers are white skinned, all born of Adam. God does judge a man by the content of their heart, but He only chose Israel and the Adamic race to do so with. There is no universalism in scripture, so believe what you will. You take your milk and drink it till you become fat, but you will always only see a distorted version of what is truth.

Are you trying to say that some people are not descendant of Adam? We are all descendants of Adam in case you are suggesting otherwise.
 

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BibleScribe, somehow I missed your comment. :)

The Lord loves all, and wishes for all to be saved... When we realize this it frees us from judging, and frees us to love!
 

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Are you trying to say that some people are not descendant of Adam? We are all descendants of Adam in case you are suggesting otherwise.
That is entirely what I am suggesting. In Hebrew, Strongs # 119 and 120, Adam is an adjective, meaning 'ruddy, to have a rosy complexion, to show blood in the face.' The only people on the face of the planet that fit this description are Caucasians my friend! There was a beast creation prior to Adam and Eve, these very beasts had hands, could wear clothing, repent before the Lord, and be punished for lying sexually with a woman. The 'sons of God' came down to earth women and gave them children. So we have the 'beasts of the field' or featherless bipeds(hominids of some sort), we have a mixed seed with the fallen, and we have a serpent seed through Eve in Gen 3:15.

Archaeology proves this point with evidence that the white race is the youngest of all while blacks and asiatics have existed for in excess of 200,000 years(some reputable sources make an estimate of nearly 1.8 million.

So explain that for me... Also, you judeos need to make up your minds, either we are all desceded from Noah and his 3 sons, or we are descended from Adam and Eve. I know you won't be able to wrap your little mind around it, but thats the truth of the matter.
 

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That is entirely what I am suggesting. In Hebrew, Strongs # 119 and 120, Adam is an adjective, meaning 'ruddy, to have a rosy complexion, to show blood in the face.' The only people on the face of the planet that fit this description are Caucasians my friend! There was a beast creation prior to Adam and Eve, these very beasts had hands, could wear clothing, repent before the Lord, and be punished for lying sexually with a woman. The 'sons of God' came down to earth women and gave them children. So we have the 'beasts of the field' or featherless bipeds(hominids of some sort), we have a mixed seed with the fallen, and we have a serpent seed through Eve in Gen 3:15.

Archaeology proves this point with evidence that the white race is the youngest of all while blacks and asiatics have existed for in excess of 200,000 years(some reputable sources make an estimate of nearly 1.8 million.

So explain that for me... Also, you judeos need to make up your minds, either we are all desceded from Noah and his 3 sons, or we are descended from Adam and Eve. I know you won't be able to wrap your little mind around it, but thats the truth of the matter.

Your understanding is sooo twisted on this that I am not even going waste my time addressing all the flaws in your argument exept for this scripture......

Acts 17:26-27 (BBE)
[sup]26 [/sup]And he has made of one blood all the nations of men living on all the face of the earth, ordering their times and the limits of their lands,
[sup]27 [/sup]So that they might make search for God, in order, if possible, to get knowledge of him and make discovery of him, though he is not far from every one of us:




........but you will find out soon enough for yourself how wrong you are.
 

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To All ,

Please allow me to re-post what GOD says:



Hey Prentis,

Here we are, days later, -- and I'm still struck by the TRUTH of your statement. For where these murderers judge people by ~groups~, GOD judges the individual by his/her heart. Thus where they presume to be covered by their ~group~, they will be judged individually, regardless of how pointy their hat and/or head are, or what thread-count their sheets are, or who told them to hate GOD's children.

And so to hide from the pending wrath of GOD, they create new god, a god of racism in all it's forms, including the accompanying false religiosity which Scripture warns us of:

Romans 11:25-32
[sup]25[/sup] For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. [sup]26[/sup] And so all Israel will be saved,[sup][[/sup][sup]g[/sup][sup]][/sup] as it is written:

“ The Deliverer will come out of Zion,
And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
[sup]27[/sup] For this is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”[sup][[/sup][sup]h[/sup][sup]][/sup]

[sup]28[/sup] Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. [sup]29[/sup] For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. [sup]30[/sup] For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, [sup]31[/sup] even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy. [sup]32[/sup] For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.


1 John 2:9-10
[sup]9[/sup] He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now. [sup]10[/sup] He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him. [sup]11[/sup] But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.




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Are you trying to say that some people are not descendant of Adam? We are all descendants of Adam in case you are suggesting otherwise.


Hey Buzzfruit,

I believe you perceive their doctrine. Apparently they justify themselves in hating, because they insist Jews are pre-Adam, and thus are ~without a spirit~. And because they ~don't have a spirit~, they're not part of mankind. And where they argue that they love ALL MEN, that because Jews ~are not part of mankind~, they can hate them.

It's a twisted logic, but Scripture says they're blind, and they certainly are. But Matt. 15:14 says what to do with these:


Matthew 15:14

(ESV)
[sup]14[/sup]Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."


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PS To leave them alone, would seem that we have nothing to do with them, -- including disallowing them in this Forum. :)
 

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you're an idiot.


WOW! Can't ya just feel the LOVE!

My brothers are white skinned, all born of Adam. God does judge a man by the content of their heart, but He only chose Israel and the Adamic race to do so with. There is no universalism in scripture, so believe what you will. You take your milk and drink it till you become fat, but you will always only see a distorted version of what is truth.

It doesn't matter what YOU believe. Where's the Scripture reference?
 
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Hey Buzzfruit,

I believe you perceive their doctrine. Apparently they justify themselves in hating, because they insist Jews are pre-Adam, and thus are ~without a spirit~. And because they ~don't have a spirit~, they're not part of mankind. And where they argue that they love ALL MEN, that because Jews ~are not part of mankind~, they can hate them.

It's a twisted logic, but Scripture says they're blind, and they certainly are. But Matt. 15:14 says what to do with these:


Matthew 15:14

(ESV)
[sup]14[/sup]Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."


BibleScribe



PS To leave them alone, would seem that we have nothing to do with them, -- including disallowing them in this Forum. :)
Actually, I've never insisted that anyone is pre Adam, contrarily, especially the Jews. Jews, or Canaanite/Edomite racial stock, are descended from Eve and Esau respectively. I know many actually hate what I say, but the Jews are serpent seed, period. Look at their works in the world today and then come back and argue against it.

My scripture reference is the entire bible, and it is locked to those that aren't Adamic in origin. What more does one need than to understand that Adam was 'ruddy' as was King David, the Nazarites, Jesus... Also that Gen 5 states quite clearly that 'this is the book of the generations of Adam' what do you think generations are? So if Adam was 'ruddy', and the bible is the record of his descendants, how do you interpret that?

Buzz, I am not racist, I hate no man... I do however hate the works of evil just as Yahweh commands us to. I believe that the only true way to achieve peace on this earth is through the separation of the races. Allow everyone to build, organize, govern, and live the way God created them. If a group of people is to ignorant to get off their lazy bums and till the soil, or gather natural resources, or build a respectable, clean society, well good riddance to them. You see it now in these 'underdeveloped' countries all around the world today. Is it really the western mans fault that they haven't achieved anything noteworthy to date? Or is it because you can see what spirit, or little spirit, they possess.

My ancestors that founded this country, and those that lived in Europe were White Christians. Up until a few hundred years ago, there was not such a thing as a multi racial church. Africans to this day still eat one another and commit genocide, even though we live in a world with great technology and resources to BETTER ourselves, is this really Americas fault? Haiti practices Voodoo as its national religion. The Chinese are Buddhists, many tribes in Africa and Australia still worship plants and animals as gods. Where is Christ in all of this, He is here with the Caucasian people, to whom He died for.

Peace.
 

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My ancestors that founded this country, and those that lived in Europe were White Christians. Up until a few hundred years ago, there was not such a thing as a multi racial church. Africans to this day still eat one another and commit genocide, even though we live in a world with great technology and resources to BETTER ourselves, is this really Americas fault? Haiti practices Voodoo as its national religion. The Chinese are Buddhists, many tribes in Africa and Australia still worship plants and animals as gods. Where is Christ in all of this, He is here with the Caucasian people, to whom He died for.


Peace.


I have news for you, Sparky...Voodoo is practiced right here in the US too, as is Satanism, Buddhism, Environmentalism, and any other "ism" you care to throw in there. There are also white cannibals. I also know many Christians in China, however, unlike your sorry racist behind...They have to truly fight to be able to practice their faith and are frequently tortured because of it.

You are one of the most disgusting waste of human breath I have run across in a very long time.
 
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Hey Buzzfruit,

I believe you perceive their doctrine. Apparently they justify themselves in hating, because they insist Jews are pre-Adam, and thus are ~without a spirit~. And because they ~don't have a spirit~, they're not part of mankind. And where they argue that they love ALL MEN, that because Jews ~are not part of mankind~, they can hate them.

It's a twisted logic, but Scripture says they're blind, and they certainly are. But Matt. 15:14 says what to do with these:


Matthew 15:14

(ESV)
[sup]14[/sup]Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."


BibleScribe



PS To leave them alone, would seem that we have nothing to do with them, -- including disallowing them in this Forum. :)

Hey Buzzfruit,

I believe you perceive their doctrine. Apparently they justify themselves in hating, because they insist Jews are pre-Adam, and thus are ~without a spirit~. And because they ~don't have a spirit~, they're not part of mankind. And where they argue that they love ALL MEN, that because Jews ~are not part of mankind~, they can hate them.

It's a twisted logic, but Scripture says they're blind, and they certainly are. But Matt. 15:14 says what to do with these:


Matthew 15:14

(ESV)
[sup]14[/sup]Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."


BibleScribe



PS To leave them alone, would seem that we have nothing to do with them, -- including disallowing them in this Forum. :)
Biblescribe, you should really keep things in context instead of just using a single verse because you feel it applies to your argument.

Lets have a look at what was going on in Matthew 15 shall we:

"1Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2“Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”
3Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[sup]a[/sup] and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’[sup]b[/sup] 5But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,’ 6he is not to ‘honor his father[sup]c[/sup]’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
8“‘These people honor me with their lips,
[indent=1.5]but their hearts are far from me.[/indent]
9They worship me in vain;
[indent=1.5]their teachings are but rules taught by men.’[sup]d[/sup][/indent] [indent=1.5]
This is Judeo-Christianity in a nutshell.[/indent]
10Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him ‘unclean,’ but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him ‘unclean.’”
12Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”
13He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14Leave them; they are blind guides.[sup]e[/sup] If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

Here is your reference with which you point your finger BS, as you can plainly see, He was speaking of things which Yahweh God did not plant on this earth. He planted Adam man in the Garden, along with other 'trees', but the Pharisees are Edomites, bred through and through with Canaanite blood directly from Satan. Why else did He tell them they were 'of their father the devil' in John 8:44? Spiritual seed huh?
15Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.”
16“Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17“Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body?18But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man ‘unclean.’ 19For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20These are what make a man ‘unclean’; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him ‘unclean.’
Where have I had any evil thoughts, commited murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, or slander(something you are really good at.)? You know, i refuse to go to the cinema because of the filth they push, I don't watch TV, rarely listen to any radio, and carefully watch what my children read so that what we 'eat' (partake) of isn't filth. Where most of Christianity today accepts it and justifies themselves so they may sin daily.

The Faith of the Canaanite Woman


21Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession.”
23Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”
24He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”


Who is Israel? Oh wait, they are white people, chosen as a peculiar people on this earth by God.

25The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
26He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to their dogs.”
27“Yes, Lord,” she said, “but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.”

Even here, Christ is refering to a different race of people as a dog. And she admits it! But we see shortly that through her faith, He helped her. And I do believe that through faith people of other races can benefit from Christ. Contrary to what you may believe of me. But, again, Adam was not the first white man, but the first white people, "Let us create male and female in our image" Gen 1:26
28Then Jesus answered, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour."

I have news for you, Sparky...Voodoo is practiced right here in the US too, as is Satanism, Buddhism, Environmentalism, and any other "ism" you care to throw in there. There are also white cannibals. I also know many Christians in China, however, unlike your sorry racist behind...They have to truly fight to be able to practice their faith and are frequently tortured because of it.

You are one of the most disgusting waste of human breath I have run across in a very long time.
None of these filthy practices was in this land until we started letting mass immigration to get out of control. Diversity is the name of the game.

And I invite you to come to Brevard NC and say that to my face... If you notice, only Christianity is not an 'ism' but there is JudaISM
 

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None of these filthy practices was in this land until we started letting mass immigration to get out of control. Diversity is the name of the game.


"We started letting"?
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You mean like the Donner Party? Oh wait...They were WHITE!

Let's see...As far as is known, Voodoo began in what is now the United States in 1719, Satanism began in the mid 1600's. Hmmmm...When exactly did we become a nation? Not to mention the various religious practices of Native Americans.

Besides...In reality (Yeah, I realize that's a topic you know nothing about) there weren't many problems at all on this continent until the WHITE man arrived.

And I invite you to come to Brevard NC and say that to my face... If you notice, only Christianity is not an 'ism' but there is JudaISM

I would not hesitate to stand in front of you, look you straight in the eyes, and confront you on your hatred, bigotry, racism, false teaching and slander. You are exactly the type of person that gives Christianity a very bad name.

Having said that, "Son"...Do you always go around threatening women?

You really should check your pointy white hat...Seems like it might be a little too tight.

BTW...I'm STILL waiting for you to back up your assertion with SCRIPTURE.
 
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Everyone, leave Israelsson alone to believe what he believes…… I am fully confident that one day he will come to see his error.


With all due respect, Buzz...I will continue to expose false teachers.

Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. One of themselves, [even] a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians [are] alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;Titus 1:10-12

They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.Titus 1:16
 
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With all due respect, Buzz...I will continue to expose false teachers.

Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. One of themselves, [even] a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians [are] alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;Titus 1:10-12

They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.Titus 1:16

You know in most cases false teachers expose themselves. But I think you and others have done that but he is not going to change until God opens his mind to see that what he believes is false.