mailmandan
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Are you trusting in Jesus Christ as the all sufficient means of your salvation? Or are you trusting in your own personal goodness as the means of your salvation?
Are you going to Heaven?
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Both. But I believe that passage to heaven is not epistemological, nor ethical, but ontological. In other words It's not primarily about what we think we know, or our good works, but about our way of being, our characters. That's not to belittle faith or works, but they depend very much on who and what we are.
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Acts 5:38 Lexicon: "So in the present case, I say to you, stay away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or action is of men, it will be overthrown;
2 Timothy 2:18
Acts 5:39 Lexicon: but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them; or else you may even be found fighting against God."
Which is the reason for the quote “no one takes your joy from you” because it goes into they “rejoiced all the more” and continued ..
Acts 5:40 Lexicon: They took his advice; and after calling the apostles in, they flogged them and ordered them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and then released them.
Acts 5:41 Lexicon: So they went on their way from the presence of the Council, rejoicing that they had been considered worthy to suffer shame for His name.
Acts 5:42 Lexicon: And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they kept right on teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ.
Which to me “joy” is connected to salvation, “for the Joy set before Him He endured the shame” Hebrews 12:1-2 that is “joy no one can take from you” as in they told them to stop speaking of Christ and then was instructed to let them alone: for if it be of men it will come to nothing, if a work of God where “joy” IS the fruit of the Spirit (so is long-suffering and endurances) then nothing “no one can take your joy from you” nothing can overthrow it. He said in the same passage “your joy no one can take from you” and they didn’t stop but continued “kept right on” to “rejoice all the more”. I have never found the verse but I’ve heard Paul was thrown in a hole and still he was rejoicing unto God out from that hole or pit.
Isaiah 66:5 Hear the word of the Lord, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the Lord be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.
Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
so significant to me (right or wrong)regarding salvation and the loss of it is: if it be of man it will come to nothing Mark 4:15-17 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts. [16] And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness; [17] And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.
If it be of God “no one can take your joy”
2 Corinthians 7:8-10 For though I made you sorry with a letter, I do not repent, though I did repent: for I perceive that the same epistle hath made you sorry, though it were but for a season. [9] Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing. [10] For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
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KJV Acts 2:34
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
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2ndRateMind
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I do. And it leaves me with a quiet conscience, so I believe God notices, as well.
Best wishes, 2RM.
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Sometimes people just radiate love. They can say very little, and I've just been able to tell.
Sinners love their own. Jesus said so.
If we love those who love us.......
That is exactly what all of humanity does. Jesus Christ was the only One to love those that hated Him. Jesus was referencing His own action and no one was paying attention.
Paul detailed that he was in perils of false brethren..... if he couldn't tell.... then just who can really tell?
We need to take this in its context. What Peter was proclaiming was that David was writing about Jesus, not about himself. He was writing about the TOTALLY UNIQUE resurrection and ascension of Christ to Heaven. This verse should be seen in the light of what is written in Hebrews 11. That David is in Heaven, not because of his own power or ability, but because Christ took him (and all the OT saints) from Sheol/Hades to the New Jerusalem in Heaven (after Christ's resurrection). Even what Peter quoted about Christ's soul not being left in Sheol/Hades indirectly confirms this, and David is actually named in Hebrews 11 (while Adam is not).
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I'm not entirely sure I get your point, or it's relevance to my post. Perhaps you would care to elaborate, for my poor second rate mind?
Best wishes, 2RM.
I thought you might want to list what you've overcome and how successful you've been. You know.... vain glory...
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