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We went over this before. ANY... belief in a 'rapture' PRIOR to the "great tribulation" is ACTUALLY a Pre-trib Rapture theory view.

What exactly is the Mid-trib view? It is a belief that Jesus comes to rapture His Church at the Mid-point of Daniel's final "one week" of Daniel 9:27. That means in the MIDDLE of the 7 years ("one week").
No, not a 7 year tribulation. I see in Revelation and in other places 3 1/2 years as the time period (42 months, 1260 days, 1290 days).
I am not an adherent to Daniel's 70th Week as pertaining to this time. That prophecy pertained to Jesus First Coming only, therefore no "Gap". The angel was specific with the message of 490 years - Jesus was cut off during the 70th week and so that week did not finish out, that does not negate counting the week. He wasn't sacrificed in the middle of the 69th week. And God didn't change His mind and said, "Oh let's stop it before the last week and continue it 2000 years later."
So MY Mid-Trib view involves the entire Great Tribultion period which includes 7 Seals, 7 Trumpets .and 7 Bowls all happening with 3 1/2 years. So if the 7th Trumpet is the time of the rapture, it falls in the middle and before the 7 Bowls of wrath.
 
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A partial Amil? LOL! There is no such thing. You should not talk about things of which you know nothing about. He believes the thousand years comes after Christ's return. No Amil believes that. So, he is not an Amil in any way, shape or form. If you actually made an effort to think about this for more than a second you might have realized that.
I thought the whole Amil platform rested on one single resurrection at one time for all? Revelation 20 was just a side affect.

There is a fine line between the last day resurrection of postmil, amil, and some posters here claiming to be pre-mil. Perhaps it is so fine, no one realizes when it is crossed?

You could start thinking about it or not. Many claim they are partial preterist. What does that even mean? Of course either you are or not. Amil do not base their eschatology on Revelation 20 and the 6 times 1,000 is mentioned, do they? What is it based on? Partial of anything would mean holding a basic tenant, no?
 

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A spiritual body is not necessarily immortal ,it most put on immortality
Soul sleep is not scriptural
And satan will die
If a body is not physical, it is spiritual, therefore it must be immortal.
The state of unconsciousness is how all the dead people are. Eccl 9:5-6 People living in heaven after death, is a false teaching, unsupported by any scripture.
Revelation 20:10 says that Satan will be tormented in the Lake of Fire forever. However; Revelation 21:8 tells us that the Lake of Fire is the second death. Meaning annihilation for all the wicked and ungodly, that must include Satan.
But those who are born of God who is forever, have become eternal with Him in Oneness:
Those who have proved their faith will receive immortality. This can only happen after Judgment and the Book of Life is opened.
If so...you have missed the fact that time with God is not as it would appear.

Why would you make a point of the timing when it is established that you could be off by a thousand years?
What point do you hope to make?
The sequence of Revelation is plainly as stated. There is no immortality or 'glorified bodies', until the end of the Millennium.
My point is; it is unbiblical to think that anyone will receive immortality before the Great White Throne Judgment, at the end of the thousand years of the rule of King Jesus on earth.

Time with God is one day equals a thousand years of earth time. He has made over 7 'days' of His time to the amazing experiment of physical mankind on this beautiful earth, in the incredible universe.
 

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The sequence of Revelation is plainly as stated. There is no immortality or 'glorified bodies', until the end of the Millennium.
My point is; it is unbiblical to think that anyone will receive immortality before the Great White Throne Judgment, at the end of the thousand years of the rule of King Jesus on earth.

Time with God is one day equals a thousand years of earth time. He has made over 7 'days' of His time to the amazing experiment of physical mankind on this beautiful earth, in the incredible universe.

Some do receive immortality before the White Throne judgement

Chapter 20 of the Book of Revelation covers the first days of the Millennium, when Jesus Christ comes to earth to establish His kingdom. This chapter runs close to the prophecies of Ezekiel in the last eight (8) chapters of the book of Ezekiel. "Millennium" means "1,000 years". This period is basically a 1,000 years of teaching and learning.

Revelation 20:6 "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."

Those who took part in the first resurrection were those who died in the Lord, and those who did not yield to Satan, the Antichrist during his "one world" reign. Those who did not take the Antichrist's "mark of the beast", these are the blessed and holy ones. All of these people already will possess an immortal soul during the Millennium.

The "second death" is the second time of testing at the end of the Millennium age after Satan is released for a short season. The saints of Christ, and overcomers of the Antichrist's reign in this earth age of the flesh will not go through the second testing, or resurrection, with those mortal souls living in the Millennium age.
 

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It's kind of amazing that Lord Jesus there taught that on the day of His 2nd coming ALL in the graves will come forth, i.e., be raised, and for those who did good to the "resurrection of life", and to those who did evil to the "resurrection of damnation". Lot of brethren simply bypass this John 5:28-29 Scripture, no doubt because it conflicts with how they wrongly teach about the "dead" in Revelation 20:5 being about a later second resurrection.

At death we return to the Father ,no one will come out of a grave ,to believe that is to believe in soul sleep .Do you believe Christ rose from the grave? I know you do , so do tell where do you think people are now?

How can Christ bring people with Him at His return if they are in a grave somewhere ?

Dirt is what it is DIRT ,we were never meant to be made Dirt(flesh).
 
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Some do receive immortality before the White Throne judgement
Only in your imagination.
Not even Abraham or David have immortality yet. Acts 13:36
This chapter runs close to the prophecies of Ezekiel in the last eight (8) chapters of the book of Ezekiel. "Millennium" means "1,000 years"
Ezekiel 40 to 48 describe the time from after the Sixth Seal until Jesus Returns; about 10 years.
Proved how the Leader of Israel then, is not Jesus and he has children. Ezekiel 46:16
All of these people already will possess an immortal soul during the Millennium.
You are wrong. No one receives immortality until the GWT Judgment, when the Book of Life is opened.
The "second death" is the second time of testing at the end of the Millennium age after Satan is released for a short season. The saints of Christ, and overcomers of the Antichrist's reign in this earth age of the flesh will not go through the second testing, or resurrection, with those mortal souls living in the Millennium age.
Hopelessly confused and contrary to scripture.
The second death is the Lake of Fire, which is annihilation. Revelation 21:6
How can Christ bring people with Him at His return if they are in a grave somewhere ?
More wakadoodle thinking.
ONLY the armies of Heaven accompany Jesus at His Return. Revelation 19:14, Matthew 16:27
ONLY at the GWT Judgment, after the Millennium, will all the people who have ever lived, dead and alive; stand before God in Judgment. Revelation 20:11-15, 1 Corinthians 15:50-56
 

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More wakadoodle thinking.
ONLY the armies of Heaven accompany Jesus at His Return. Revelation 19:14, Matthew 16:27
ONLY at the GWT Judgment, after the Millennium, will all the people who have ever lived, dead and alive; stand before God in Judgment. Revelation 20:11-15, 1 Corinthians 15:50-56

Are not the armies in Heaven those who have died
I think scripture says those who sleep in Christ(died) comes back with Him

I Thessalonians 4:14 "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him."
 

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Those who have proved their faith will receive immortality. This can only happen after Judgment and the Book of Life is opened.
The sequence of Revelation is plainly as stated. There is no immortality or 'glorified bodies', until the end of the Millennium.
My point is; it is unbiblical to think that anyone will receive immortality before the Great White Throne Judgment, at the end of the thousand years of the rule of King Jesus on earth.

Time with God is one day equals a thousand years of earth time. He has made over 7 'days' of His time to the amazing experiment of physical mankind on this beautiful earth, in the incredible universe.
Except for "glorified bodies", a term of those who would glorify the flesh...that is all biblical, without dispute.

However, by considering things in "sequence" you are overlooking other scripture which alters the timing. Paul laid out the commencement of entering eternity, saying "each one in his own order"--starting with Christ the firstfruits two thousand years ago; saying that during that same time period it is also the time of Jesus' reign--as He has already overcome the world, the order of which is before the end of this world.

Another point of the timing that should be noted, is that--2,000 years ago the timing began with Christ the "firstfruits"--not singular, but plural.
 
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I thought the whole Amil platform rested on one single resurrection at one time for all?
Amil is partly based on that. But someone could believe that or some

It's also based on the belief that all unbelievers will be killed at the return of Christ (Matt 24:35-39, 1 Thess 5:2-3, 2 Peter 3:10-12, Rev 19:17-18, Rev 20:9) while all believers will be "changed" to have immortal bodies at that time (1 Cor 15:50-54). That doesn't leave any mortals to populate the earth for a thousand years.

Also, Amils believe scripture teaches that Christ reigns now (Matt 28:18, Eph 1:19-22, Rev 1:5-6, etc.) and that believers are in His kingdom now (Col 1:12-13, 1 Peter 2:9, Rev 1:5-6, etc.).

And Amils believe that scripture teaches that all people will be judged at the same time which will be when Christ returns at the end of the age (Matt 13:36-43, Matt 13:47-50, Matt 25:31-46, Acts 17:30-31, etc.).

So, Amil is based on all of those scriptures I referenced and more and not just on John 5:28-29.

There is a fine line between the last day resurrection of postmil, amil, and some posters here claiming to be pre-mil. Perhaps it is so fine, no one realizes when it is crossed?
I don't know what you're talking about.

You could start thinking about it or not.
Thinking about what exactly?

Many claim they are partial preterist. What does that even mean? Of course either you are or not.
Not everyone will define it the same way, but I would generally define partial preterists as being those who believe the entire Olivet Discourse is fulfilled (or at least most of it). And they believe that all of Revelation up to at least Revelation 19 is fulfilled as well. I don't believe either of those things.

Amil do not base their eschatology on Revelation 20 and the 6 times 1,000 is mentioned, do they?
No, we base it on more clear scripture that isn't written in a highly symbolic book like Revelation. We establish our doctrinal foundation on clear scripture and then interpret scripture like Revelation 20 accordingly while being careful not to interpret it in such a way that contradicts other, more clear scripture.

What is it based on?
See above where I told you what Amils believe and gave some scripture references to support those beliefs.

Partial of anything would mean holding a basic tenant, no?
What are you talking about?
 
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If a body is not physical, it is spiritual, therefore it must be immortal.
The state of unconsciousness is how all the dead people are. Eccl 9:5-6 People living in heaven after death, is a false teaching, unsupported by any scripture.
Where do you think the souls of the martyrs depicted in the following passage are located?

Revelation 6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10 They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?”.

Also, Jesus said that God is not the God of the dead, but of the living (Matt 22:32). So, if you think the dead in Christ are not alive in any way right now, then God would not be their God.

Revelation 20:10 says that Satan will be tormented in the Lake of Fire forever. However; Revelation 21:8 tells us that the Lake of Fire is the second death. Meaning annihilation for all the wicked and ungodly, that must include Satan.
So, you don't accept what Revelation 20:10 says then?

Those who have proved their faith will receive immortality. This can only happen after Judgment and the Book of Life is opened.

The sequence of Revelation is plainly as stated. There is no immortality or 'glorified bodies', until the end of the Millennium.
Well, there's one thing we can agree on, at least.

My point is; it is unbiblical to think that anyone will receive immortality before the Great White Throne Judgment, at the end of the thousand years of the rule of King Jesus on earth.
What about 1 Corinthians 15:50-56? Paul indicates there that we will all receive immortality at the last trumpet. The last trumpet will sound just before the great white throne judgment takes place. Paul indicated that the dead aren't raised until the last trumpet sounds. And he indicates that the resurrected dead in Christ, along with those who are alive at the time, will receive immortality right then and there. It's AFTER the resurrection of the dead occurs and AFTER they receive immortality that the judgment takes place (see John 5:28-29 - resurrection first and then judgment). So, you just have the timing a little bit off.

Time with God is one day equals a thousand years of earth time. He has made over 7 'days' of His time to the amazing experiment of physical mankind on this beautiful earth, in the incredible universe.
Wrong. If one day equaled a thousand years to God then that would mean God was somehow confined within the realm of time that He created and that He exists outside of, which makes no sense. Time has no effect on God at all. Verses like Psalm 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8 are simply pointing out that no amount of time, including a 24 hour day or a thousand years, makes any difference to God since time has no effect on Him at all.
 
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Are not the armies in Heaven those who have died
I think scripture says those who sleep in Christ(died) comes back with Him
They are angels.
Jesus brings with Him only the GT martyrs, the rest of the dead must wait for the GWT Judgment.
What exactly do you think will be going on during the millennium?
Only the faithful Christian peoples will go with Jesus into the Millennium. They will live in peace and prosperity. Psalms 100, 99 and 98
Why may I ask do they have no worries over the 2nd death? If the 2nd death has no power one must have an immortal soul
As their names are Written in the Book of Life, they are assured of receiving immortality when they stand before God, on His Great White Throne. AFTER the Millennium.
 

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However, by considering things in "sequence" you are overlooking other scripture which alters the timing. Paul laid out the commencement of entering eternity, saying "each one in his own order"--starting with Christ the firstfruits two thousand years ago; saying that during that same time period it is also the time of Jesus' reign--as He has already overcome the world, the order of which is before the end of this world.
Jesus has not yet taken His place as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He will do that when He Returns, as described in Revelation 19:11-21
Paul doesn't give any time gaps. We know from hindsight; there has been a nearly 2000 year gap.
The next people to be resurrected will be the GT martyrs, as told to us in Revelation 20:4 There are no others until after the next thousand years.
Where do you think the souls of the martyrs depicted in the following passage are located?
You answer that by posting Rev 6:9-11.
God does allow them to cry out at times, but they do not receive immortality until they stand before God in the final Judgment.
Also, Jesus said that God is not the God of the dead, but of the living (Matt 22:32). So, if you think the dead in Christ are not alive in any way right now, then God would not be their God.
The dead are dead and they know nothing. They 'sleep' until the GWT Judgment.
That prophecy is plainly, obviously; about the GWT Judgment.
Proved by how it is then that Death is no more, As Rev 21:4. AFTER the Millennium, tells us.

It is only wrong and false Church teaching that leads people to think there is any 'life after death'. Satan has a field day with the gullible, by using his demons to fool people they are their loved ones speaking.
Hebrews 9:27 says it plainly; After death comes Judgment.
You die, then at your next conscious moment, you are standing alongside every other person who has ever lived and the Books are opened. Your name is found Written it the Book of Life and you receive immortality and live with God for Eternity. John 3:16
But for most; their names are not found in the Book of Life. They get the second death.
 

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No, not a 7 year tribulation. I see in Revelation and in other places 3 1/2 years as the time period (42 months, 1260 days, 1290 days).

The time of "great tribulation" Jesus showed begins with the setting up of the "abomination of desolation" idol in a third temple in Jerusalem at the end. That is the MID point of Daniel's symbolic "one week" of Daniel 9:27. That "one week" is symbolic of a 7 year period, so the MID point of it means the START of the latter 1260 day half.l How many times must I remind you of that? So your continued reference to a 7 year tribulation is defunct.


I am not an adherent to Daniel's 70th Week as pertaining to this time.

Sure you are, if you adhere to man's Mid-trib rapture theory. And that Mid-trib theory says Jesus comes to rapture His Church in the MIDDLE of Daniel's symbolic "one week". That just so happens to also be when the coming false Messiah is to setup the "abomination of desolation" idol in Jerusalem, and start the "great tribulation", the latter 1260 day period.

That prophecy pertained to Jesus First Coming only, therefore no "Gap". The angel was specific with the message of 490 years - Jesus was cut off during the 70th week and so that week did not finish out, that does not negate counting the week. He wasn't sacrificed in the middle of the 69th week. And God didn't change His mind and said, "Oh let's stop it before the last week and continue it 2000 years later."

That above is a clear butchering of God's written Word in a vain attempt to make it say something totally different. The fulfillment of the final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 has absolutely NOTHING to do with Christ's 1st coming, nor His future 2nd coming. That Daniel 9:27 verse is about the coming false-Messiah ending the re-established old covenant sacrifices in Jerusalem for the end, and then placing the abomination that maketh desolate, which is the subject about the "vile person" in Daniel 11 that makes the "league" in Jerusalem with a "small people" (i.e., small group of political Jews). Even there the Scripture says that vile person will initially be against the "holy covenant". What was the "holy covenant" in Daniel's days? The old covenant with sacrifices.

Dan 11:31-36
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.


32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

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Even that part in verse 36 verse above is linked to what Apostle Paul described the "man of sin" in Jerusalem will do in exalting himself as God, and over all that is called God, or that is worshiped (2 Thessalonians 2). That is also linked to the prophecy in Revelation 13:4-8 about the "dragon".

So MY Mid-Trib view involves the entire Great Tribultion period which includes 7 Seals, 7 Trumpets .and 7 Bowls all happening with 3 1/2 years. So if the 7th Trumpet is the time of the rapture (which I believe is), it falls in the middle and before the 7 Bowls of wrath.
Whether you agree with this or not, that is my view.

You've already shown you don't really understand what timing the "great tribulation" is about, nor when it starts per the prophecies Lord Jesus gave. You are too busy following what men say, instead of heeding what God says in His Word.
 

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At death we return to the Father ,no one will come out of a grave ,to believe that is to believe in soul sleep .Do you believe Christ rose from the grave? I know you do , so do tell where do you think people are now?

How can Christ bring people with Him at His return if they are in a grave somewhere ?

Dirt is what it is DIRT ,we were never meant to be made Dirt(flesh).

Oh, I don't believe in man's 'dead in the ground' theories. I'm not the one who said 'all in the graves shall hear His voice', Lord Jesus said that in John 5:28-29, and that was the Scripture I was referring to. I recognize that 'all in the graves' idea as an expression for those who have died, not where they go to at flesh death.
 
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Jesus has not yet taken His place as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He will do that when He Returns, as described in Revelation 19:11-21
Paul doesn't give any time gaps. We know from hindsight; there has been a nearly 2000 year gap.
The next people to be resurrected will be the GT martyrs, as told to us in Revelation 20:4 There are no others until after the next thousand years.
Well that comment means not going further--you're not ready.

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
Let me know if and when you come to the knowledge that Jesus is and has been Lord of all. Then we can talk about what the rest of the scriptures actually mean in light of the difference.
 
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They are angels.
Jesus brings with Him only the GT martyrs, the rest of the dead must wait for the GWT Judgment.

Only the faithful Christian peoples will go with Jesus into the Millennium. They will live in peace and prosperity. Psalms 100, 99 and 98

As their names are Written in the Book of Life, they are assured of receiving immortality when they stand before God, on His Great White Throne. AFTER the Millennium.

That's actually a doctrine based on the Jew's old doctrines of a flesh resurrection. Our flesh is not what is raised. Jesus' flesh body was raised, to prove beyond all... doubt that He had risen, and His flesh body was transfigured to "a quickening spirit" Apostle Paul said. Apostle Paul said flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.


What actually does God's Word teach about the ORDER of events for the end of this present world, and the appearing of the world to come? Here is that Order...

1. the consuming fire event of 2 Peter 3:10 you are confused about with sun spots, is about God's consuming fire that will completely destroy man's works off the 'surface' of this earth on the FINAL DAY of this present world. Apostle Peter was covering God's previous world-wide destructions upon the SURFACE of the earth. The final one Peter said will be with fire, so that means another destruction upon the SURFACE of the earth like the previous ones He did with waters of a flood. What all will that fire event do?...

a. -- it will literally END this present flesh world, including destroy the flesh bodies of those still alive on earth. So ANY idea of people still in flesh bodies after that future event is just silly, and shows one not staying with the actual Bible Scripture as written.

b. -- that is also the 'day' of Christ's 2nd coming, the only future coming by Christ to end the coming "great tribulation" and gather His faithful Church. That is a POST-tribulational coming and gathering, and not at any other timeframe.

c. -- that event is what Apostle Paul was talking about with those still alive on earth being 'changed' "at the twinkling of an eye". It will be like, poof, and those still alive on earth will suddenly have their flesh cast off, and their "spiritual body" suddenly revealed, while STILL on earth. At that point all peoples... will understand Who God and His Son is. Those who rejected Jesus Christ as Messiah will immediately feel emotional shame, with some of those wishing for the mountains and hills to fall on them.

d. -- that event will also involve Christ's coming in the clouds with His angelic host, the asleep saints that had died that He brings with Him from Heaven, of BOTH Old Testaments and New Testaments.

e. -- at that same moment also, Christ's faithful saints still alive on earth are "caught up" to Him at His coming from Heaven with the asleep saints.

f. -- immediately then, Christ with ALL His saints go to the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem ON EARTH. Christ's feet touch down upon the Mount of Olives where He ascended to Heaven from, and a great valley is formed there, destroying this coming temple that false-Messiah is to sit in for the coming "great tribulation" prior to His return.

g. -- the wicked dead will also be revealed in spiritual bodies on earth in that same time. Those and the ones still alive who rejected Christ will make up the "nations" of Revelation 20. It will... be a time of teaching and correction by The Word of God. Satan and his host of earthly kings that followed him will be locked in his pit prison throughout that future "thousand years" reign by Jesus and His elect.

h. -- ONLY those of the "first resurrection" will have their 'mortal' souls made immortal. Any believer on Christ that fell away, either because of allowing themselves to be deceived, or by intentional laziness (like the unprofitable servant), will NOT have their 'mortal' souls made immortal. They also, with the wicked, will still have 'mortal' souls liable to perish after the thousand years in the "lake of fire". Only those of the "first resurrection" will have eternal life through Jesus in that time.

2. -- all those, the wicked, the profane, basically those of Revelation 22:15, along with the foolish virgins, will be placed 'outside' the gates of the beloved city (new Jerusalem), for the "thousand years".

a. -- the wicked and deceived will 'stand in judgment' throughout that thousand years, and will be taught the difference between the holy and profane, the clean and unclean. (Ezekiel 44). Only the Just (the Zadok, representing Christ's elect) will be allowed to approach Christ at His table in that time, and serve Him.

b. -- as per Zechariah 6, Jesus Christ the "BRANCH", will build the Millennial temple, which is just for that "thousand years" period.

c. -- at the end of the thousand years, Satan will be loosed one final time to go deceive those nations of unsaved, and lead those who follow him upon the "camp of saints" on earth. God will rain His fire (another fire event) upon those and destroy them and Satan is then cast into the lake of fire.

d. -- then the books are opened to see if any names are found in the Book of Life, and the nations left are judged out of those books. The Book of Life is how one becomes one of Christ's saints with one's name written in it. So this is another check to see if anyone's names from those unsaved nations are written in it, meaning 'some' of those unsaved will... convert to Jesus Christ DURING that future thousand years reign. Those make up the 'implied' 2nd resurrection unto eternal Life in Jesus.

e. -- then the rest judged out of the books not found written in the Book of Life is cast into the lake of fire, which is the "second death". The abode of hell, and death are also cast into that lake of fire.

3. -- then, and only then after that future lake of fire event, is God' literal Kingdom established upon this whole earth, under His Son. And there will be no more literal temple. And it will be an unending existence.
 

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First, you acknowledge that all of the dead will be resurrected and judged on the day Christ returns and then you try to say that the thousand years follows that. That makes no sense whatsoever and shows that no one can trust anything you're saying.

We all know that when we're changed we'll have a spiritual body since that's what it says in 1 Corinthians 15, so that isn't something anyone in their right mind is going to disagree about. Their might be disagreement with what the nature of that spiritual body will be like, but that's all. The idea that Paul was talking about unbelievers as well as believers in 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 is complete nonsense. That's like saying he was also referring to the resurrection of unbelievers rather than just believers in 1 Corinthians 15:22-23. His focus was entirely on believers in 1 Corinthians 15, not unbelievers.
Yes, Dave is becoming more and more a preacher of propaganda.

How can any honest student of the Bible come to the conclusion that the wicked unrighteous will be changed, and/or resurrected, when the Bible plainly states they will all be destroyed upon Christ's return?

You have to be very young in the faith, and/or very naive, to believe these nonsensical claims that so many wolves are pushing throughout all of Christendom today.

Absolute nonsense.