God's Word

A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(ami;17278)
Brothers,I beleive personaly that the bible is the word of God. He used ppl to write his message and teach us. I was reading something about the kuran that most muslims say is given to mohamed. Is realy the kuran authentic? I will leave the answer to everybody. http://debate.org.uk/topics/books/origins-koran.htmlbe blessed
I hope this link could be one of the answer of your statement regarding on Quran matters http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Mss/.And regarding on God's Word, how come you still can said that "the bible is the word of God", meanwhile Paul 'Apostle' himself declare that what he already told (which is part of the bible it self) was not from God ?For you kind answer and clarification, i shall say thank you, and apologize if were not pleasant. Best regards,Ricky WWallahu a'lam.

I seek refuge in God, from Satan the rejectedIn the name of Allah(God), Most Gracious, Most Merciful.(celia)
2 Timothy 3:16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.2 Peter 1:20Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet.
Thank you for your comment, but please take a look what Paul 'Apostle' has said regarding on his own claimed1 Chor 7:25. Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful. Now, how come you can still say all the verse in the Bible was came from God, meanwhile Paul 'Apostle' him self admitted that he doesn't have commandment from the Lord by the time he giving thoses word ?2 Chor 11: 16. I say again, let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little. 17. That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting. In that verse also Paul 'Apostle' have admitted him self for what he said was not on God's word, but how come you can still saying what Paul 'Apostle' considered as God's Word ? Meanwhile the apostle him self doesn't said so.For your warm answer i shall say thank you, and forgive me if what i'm said not pleasent to anyone each of you.Best regards,Ricky WisnadriGod(Allah) Knows Best

A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(Thunder1)
Ricky,The Bible is written by humans, who had seen, heard and personally experienced God's power in their life. These people were not GOD, but were inspired by Him and simply wrote those things down. I personally like the words that come from the mouth of Jesus, because He is The Son of God.
Sorry for late to response this, i don't want to argue this, but it's simply to see, you said that bible was just as the think that you write it on, but Paul "the Apostle" has said contrary with what you has said, you can see the verse that i brought previously.Wallaahu a'lam.

A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(Thunder1)
Ricky : I want to ask about what Paul 'Apostle' has said in this verse :1 Chor 7:25. Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful. Now, how come you can still say all the verse in the Bible was came from God, meanwhile Paul 'Apostle' him self admitted that he doesn't have commandment from the Lord by the time he giving thoses word ?2 Chor 11: 16. I say again, let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little. 17. That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting. In that verse also Paul 'Apostle' have admitted him self for what he said was not on God's word, but how come you can still saying what Paul 'Apostle' considered as God's Word ? Meanwhile the apostle him self doesn't said so.Thunder1:The Bible is God's word to us AS WHOLE. I agree with you that the words from Paul's mouth were not as God's words as such. And as you said He admits that himself - being foolish and boasting , but not how wise he was , He was boasting about His sufferings in His ministry and his weakness. Paul was a human like us, he was not sinless as Jesus, the Son of God was, but GOD STILL CALLED Paul to be an apostle of Christ Jesus. 1 Cor.1:1So in that sense you are right. But that does not mean that the Bible is not the word of God. God just used ordinary people to preach and teach. You've done a good study there.And if some of us don't have a right answer for you. Ask somebody else. Elisha Kai or Todd or anybody who you think could answer. I'm just so simple-minded, but I love my God.God Bless,Thunder1
Dear thunder1,I do hope i'm not being rude of what i wrote, it just this is some kind that make me wonder and make not sense in my head, so i just simply asking the question .If you are stand in my position, what would you think regarding on what i asked ?There is statement just like the way you are saying regarding Bible but in the bible it self there is statement, that saying he speak not of word of God (*please refer to orange and red coloring word). Does that make you think it was contrary ?If you (which is still standing in my position) receiving answer (as just like you are given the answer), what do you think that answer ?Wallaahu a'lam.

A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(Thunder1)
Ricky WRickyear thunder1,I do hope i'm not being rude of what i wrote, it just this is some kind that make me wonder and make not sense in my head, so i just simply asking the question .If you are stand in my position, what would you think regarding on what i asked ?There is statement just like the way you are saying regarding Bible but in the bible it self there is statement, that saying he speak not of word of God (*please refer to orange and red coloring word). Does that make you think it was contrary ?If you (which is still standing in my position) receiving answer (as just like you are given the answer), what do you think that answer ?Wallaahu a'lam.Thunder1:No, Ricky you haven't been rude now and thanks for that. You've got right to answer questions. I ask questions myself. It's just proves that you are thinking yourself and not just following what other people say, You are using your own brain that God gave to you. We all are different and special in His eyes. But I'm just a human and I don't know all the answers.From your point of you, for me it's hard say, because I'm not a muslim. But I can somehow see that it appears contradicting to you, that Paul's words where not God's words and he says it himself. And you expect that literally every word in the Bible is straight from God's mouth. Even in the Old testament people were just people, ... some were good,some were not so good, some were really bad, some were prophets etc.The Bible AS WHOLE is teaching us from people's wrong doings or when they behaved right in God's eyes - what are the consequences of your behaviour, if you behave certain way. There is so much to it.Personally for me Paul was just a human with his weakness, BUT GOD chose him to be an apostle. So for me it's not contradicting. God actually came for weak and needy. It's about God, HE CHOSE Paul even with his weakness. And that's God's grace - in Jesus Christ for all of us, who want to receive His grace.And as I said earlier, you may ask for example Elisha Kai or Todd about that, if that still concerns you. They're able to explained it better for you, like I said, I just think things simply and I don't have all the answers. I love my God enormously though.God Bless,Thunder1
Thank you for your answer .Best Regards,Ricky WWallaahu a'lam.