Working The Sabbath ???

Inexplicable · Jun 19, 2022

Hi

I recently began a new job that requires a five day working week in any severn days, meaning depending on the shift rota I'm sometimes required to work weekends but still only working five days in the week. When having to work Sunday I'm resting on one of the two days off in the week for the Lord in place of the Sabbath, is this ecceptable to God, or would I have to quit my job?

Michiah-Imla · Jun 19, 2022

@Inexplicable

Don’t sweat it.

You are not living in a land governed by God’s laws.

“Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days” (Colossians 2:16)

MatthewG · Jun 19, 2022

Haha, it is fine. Jesus fulfilled everything for us, here recently got cut back on my job due to it being 12 hours a day, 5 days a week. 60 hours of work is a bit much though this week will see if I can work 4 days 12 hours, and the 5th day 9 hours or so to just have a bit of extra money. Still have the weekends off though, just whatever you do not let yourself be over-worked and explain that you need time off if you need to because not of being a Christian but being a human being.

Naomanos · Jun 19, 2022

Inexplicable said:
Hi

I recently began a new job that requires a five day working week in any severn days, meaning depending on the shift rota I'm sometimes required to work weekends but still only working five days in the week. When having to work Sunday I'm resting on one of the two days off in the week for the Lord in place of the Sabbath, is this ecceptable to God, or would I have to quit my job?

You are fine. Technically the true sabbath is from sundown on Friday to sundown Saturday. Christians are not required to follow this, however. Sunday is called the Lord's day. That is when Christians worship God.

God would understand that your job requires you to work on weekends. You can always worship God on the day that you have free.

Cassandra · Jun 21, 2022

Inexplicable said:
Hi

I recently began a new job that requires a five day working week in any severn days, meaning depending on the shift rota I'm sometimes required to work weekends but still only working five days in the week. When having to work Sunday I'm resting on one of the two days off in the week for the Lord in place of the Sabbath, is this ecceptable to God, or would I have to quit my job?

I would ask the Lord, and study it out if the Spirit is bothering you about it. Then make your decision. We can tell you what we think, but obedience is between you and God.

Dropship · Jun 21, 2022

Inexplicable said:
Hi

I recently began a new job that requires a five day working week in any severn days, meaning depending on the shift rota I'm sometimes required to work weekends but still only working five days in the week. When having to work Sunday I'm resting on one of the two days off in the week for the Lord in place of the Sabbath, is this ecceptable to God, or would I have to quit my job?

Jesus said "The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath" (Mark 2:27)
so I'd think any day of our choosing would be fine by God for resting and recharging our spiritual batteries..

Cassandra · Jun 21, 2022

Dropship said:
Jesus said "The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath" (Mark 2:27)
so I'd think any day of our choosing would be fine by God for resting and recharging our spiritual batteries..

I think the Sabbath was established as a memorial of Creation And I don't believe that the Sabbath was changed, nor do I believe God stuck a ceremonial law into the 10.
But the person who asked relationship with God does not depend on me. It should be studied out.
Revelation speaks about worshiping God : Rev 14:7 "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." He is shown as Creator here, and that is important to me as the Sabbath reiterates His resting from Creation, and since it is tagged in Revelation (as it was in Genesis), it must have a latter day significance We are to worship Him. as Creator, and further for recreating us, wanting to do His will.
For me , the Sabbath is more that a day for me to recharge my batteries. It is a day spent in church, Bible study, fellowship, spending time with the Lord.
But HERE is the important part: That is for me--I am convicted of this. But that does not mean it is for someone else on my .

If we have questions, yes, we can ask others, but if something like this is bothering us, it is best to pull out the Bible,send up a prayer, and do a study. I think we can all agree on this.

Naomanos · Jun 21, 2022

Cassandra said:
I think the Sabbath was established as a memorial of Creation And I don't believe that the Sabbath was changed, nor do I believe God stuck a ceremonial law into the 10.
But the person who asked relationship with God does not depend on me. It should be studied out.
Revelation speaks about worshiping God : Rev 14:7 "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." He is shown as Creator here, and that is important to me as the Sabbath reiterates His resting from Creation, and since it is tagged in Revelation (as it was in Genesis), it must have a latter day significance We are to worship Him. as Creator, and further for recreating us, wanting to do His will.
For me , the Sabbath is more that a day for me to recharge my batteries. It is a day spent in church, Bible study, fellowship, spending time with the Lord.
But HERE is the important part: That is for me--I am convicted of this. But that does not mean it is for someone else on my .

If we have questions, yes, we can ask others, but if something like this is bothering us, it is best to pull out the Bible,send up a prayer, and do a study. I think we can all agree on this.

Cassandra, for some of us, our reality is that we have to work on Saturday. If not, we lose our job.

I work for a plasma center. I make more money there as an EMT than I did in an ambulance. Without this job, I would not be able to have my own place for my kids to lay their heads down or have food in their stomachs. I couldn't afford to pay their mother child support. Before this job, I struggled to make ends meet as a single dad. This job was a godsend for me. I don;t have to worry near as much.

So, I worship God on a different day and rest on a different day as providing for my family is a must and I cannot do that unless I have a job.

Cassandra · Jun 21, 2022

Naomanos said:
Cassandra, for some of us, our reality is that we have to work on Saturday. If not, we lose our job.

I work for a plasma center. I make more money there as an EMT than I did in an ambulance. Without this job, I would not be able to have my own place for my kids to lay their heads down or have food in their stomachs. I couldn't afford to pay their mother child support. Before this job, I struggled to make ends meet as a single dad. This job was a godsend for me. I don;t have to worry near as much.

So, I worship God on a different day and rest on a different day as providing for my family is a must and I cannot do that unless I have a job.

I am NOT judging you!!!
This is why I am saying --for each person to study it out.
If you decide it is ok to work, then it is ok for you. I will not put my beliefs on you.
Nor do I say that you are sinning.

Every relationship with God is personal. He knows why we do what we do.

Naomanos · Jun 21, 2022

Cassandra said:
I am NOT judging you!!!
This is why I am saying --for each person to study it out.
If you decide it is ok to work, then it is ok for you. I will not put my beliefs on you.
Nor do I say that you are sinning.

Every relationship with God is personal. He knows why we do what we do.

Thank you!

I just wanted to give an example of where sometimes there really is no choice.

BarneyFife · Jun 21, 2022

Naomanos said:
for some of us, our reality is that we have to work on Saturday. If not, we lose our job.

I thought reality was an objective term, not subject to one's viewpoint. Regardless of what we think, God has a definite viewpoint on this matter, as He does with everything else. He says murder is wrong; stealing is wrong.

32 years ago, I found out through my study of the Bible that the 4th commandment, which I thought everyone was supposed to keep (which I wasn't doing anyway), was actually serious business—deadly serious.

So I started keeping it. Some will say: "No one has ever kept it perfectly."

Yes, we'll probably end up going through all of that nonsense.

Let's just say that I keep it as perfectly as I don't murder or steal.

So, anyway, I kept it for a couple of years.

Then my job became unbearable (not Sabbath-related—I saw my boss kick a guy's chair out from underneath him, so he called me and the other witness into his office to threaten us with blackballing if we testified against him—it was all downhill from there). So I quit.

I couldn't find another job that was suitable, so I picked up and moved (leaving my wife and two children with enough money to get by for a while) to my hometown with my dad to find a good job. I got a good job offer. A really good one. Much better than what I had previously. Trouble was, they worked rotating schedules that would definitely require me to work on the Sabbath.

I didn't even think twice. I turned it down appreciatingly, but flatly. My dad DID NOT understand. Here I am, unemployed, dependent on him for food and shelter, basically helpless (or so it seemed), and I had the gall to turn down gainful employment that would support my family and myself very nicely. Well, needless to say, my dad and I didn't talk too much for the next few days.

When Sunday rolled around, my mom showed me an ad in the newspaper for a company that was looking for people who do what I do. It was a Fortune 500 company. I hoped that I wasn't too late, because my mom said she'd seen it in the paper the week before but she didn't notice what positions they were looking to fill, and that was before I had arrived, too.

The next morning, as I was about to pick up the phone to call, it rang. "Odd," I thought. It was the company I was about to call. They said they had been trying to get ahold of me for a week, but the employment office had given them the wrong number for me. This place offered me nearly twice the pay I would've gotten from the offer I turned down. Much better benefits. They were desperate for people and were working their employees very hard, with a lot of overtime.

I asked about accommodating my Sabbath (Saturday) observance. No problem, they said. One catch, though. Everyone else was working overtime, and they expected me to carry my weight so they wanted me to work 12 hours on Sunday to show I was willing to do what I could to pitch in. No problem. Sundays paid double-time whether you worked any other overtime or not.

God already had a job lined up for me before I even turned the other one down, and I would be bringing home over twice as much per pay period as I did before.

Six months later I found out that they had been paying moving expenses for people to relocate to come to work for them. The guys kept nagging me to go into the office and ask about it, so I finally did just to get them off my back. I told the personnel lady that I already had plans to relocate before I'd heard from them. She asked me how much my moving expenses were. I said I had a receipt for the U-Haul truck but she just wanted an estimate so I told her how much the truck rental cost. She said, "Well, you must've had other expenses," and she cut me a check for almost 4 times the amount of the truck rental right there on the spot while I watched.

I could tell you a hundred stories like this.

I got laid off one time and had to turn down several jobs for Sabbath concerns. I got three separate checks from the IRS for stuff I had no idea had occurred.

I can't count the number of times God has bailed me out when I feared tithes and offerings might cause me to go bankrupt.

One year I pledged a ridiculously large amount of money for the local conference evangelism fund, and God more than provided for it.

You can't outgive God and He loves to see how far we will test and trust His faithfulness.

O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever! (Deuteronomy 5:29)

Malachi 3
10Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. 11And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts. 12And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the LORD of hosts.

Psalms 50
10For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.

11I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine.

12If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof.

Naomanos · Jun 21, 2022

BarneyFife said:
I thought reality was an objective term, not subject to one's viewpoint. Regardless of what we think, God has a definite viewpoint on this matter, as He does with everything else. He says murder is wrong; stealing is wrong.

32 years ago, I found out through my study of the Bible that the 4th commandment, which I thought everyone was supposed to keep (which I wasn't doing anyway), was actually serious business—deadly serious.

So I started keeping it. Some will say: "No one has ever kept it perfectly."

Yes, we'll probably end up going through all of that nonsense.

Let's just say that I keep it as perfectly as I don't murder or steal.

So, anyway, I kept it for a couple of years.

Then my job became unbearable (not Sabbath-related—I saw my boss kick a guy's chair out from underneath him, so he called me and the other witness into his office to threaten us with blackballing if we testified against him—it was all downhill from there). So I quit.

I couldn't find another job that was suitable, so I picked up and moved (leaving my wife and two children with enough money to get by for a while) to my hometown with my dad to find a good job. I got a good job offer. A really good one. Much better than what I had previously. Trouble was, they worked rotating schedules that would definitely require me to work on the Sabbath.

I didn't even think twice. I turned it down appreciatingly, but flatly. My dad DID NOT understand. Here I am, unemployed, dependent on him for food and shelter, basically helpless (or so it seemed), and I had the gall to turn down gainful employment that would support my family and myself very nicely. Well, needless to say, my dad and I didn't talk too much for the next few days.

When Sunday rolled around, my mom showed me an ad in the newspaper for a company that was looking for people who do what I do. It was a Fortune 500 company. I hoped that I wasn't too late, because my mom said she'd seen it in the paper the week before but she didn't notice what positions they were looking to fill, and that was before I had arrived, too.

The next morning, as I was about to pick up the phone to call, it rang. "Odd," I thought. It was the company I was about to call. They said they had been trying to get ahold of me for a week, but the employment office had given them the wrong number for me. This place offered me nearly twice the pay I would've gotten from the offer I turned down. Much better benefits. They were desperate for people and were working their employees very hard, with a lot of overtime.

I asked about accommodating my Sabbath (Saturday) observance. No problem, they said. One catch, though. Everyone else was working overtime, and they expected me to carry my weight so they wanted me to work 12 hours on Sunday to show I was willing to do what I could to pitch in. No problem. Sundays paid double-time whether you worked any other overtime or not.

God already had a job lined up for me before I even turned the other one down, and I would be bringing home over twice as much per pay period as I did before.

Six months later I found out that they had been paying moving expenses for people to relocate to come to work for them. The guys kept nagging me to go into the office and ask about it, so I finally did just to get them off my back. I told the personnel lady that I already had plans to relocate before I'd heard from them. She asked me how much my moving expenses were. I said I had a receipt for the U-Haul truck but she just wanted an estimate so I told her how much the truck rental cost. She said, "Well, you must've had other expenses," and she cut me a check for almost 4 times the amount of the truck rental right there on the spot while I watched.

I could tell you a hundred stories like this.

I got laid off one time and had to turn down several jobs for Sabbath concerns. I got three separate checks from the IRS for stuff I had no idea had occurred.

I can't count the number of times God has bailed me out when I feared tithes and offerings might cause me to go bankrupt.

One year I pledged a ridiculously large amount of money for the local conference evangelism fund, and God more than provided for it.

You can't outgive God and He loves to see how far we will test and trust His faithfulness.

O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever! (Deuteronomy 5:29)

Malachi 3
10Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. 11And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts. 12And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the LORD of hosts.

Psalms 50
10For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.

11I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine.

12If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof.

Good for you is all I can really say. I'm not willing to do what you did. I'm not willing to lose my kids, nor do I have money to just up and move as you apparently you did. Child support will still accrue and if it accrues too much they take your driver's license and then throw you in jail. Will you be willing to bail me out of jail and also provide the arrears for child support and pay to have my driver's license reinstated?

I do not believe that Saturday Sabbath keeping is for Christians. I also fully believe that God gave me this job.

So, I will continue working this job.

GEN2REV · Jun 21, 2022

Naomanos said:
I do not believe that Saturday Sabbath keeping is for Christians.

That is why you wouldn't have the same results as Barney if you tried to do what he did.

I have had to create a job for myself to stay true to the Saturday Sabbath day of no work and God has continuously provided for me in miraculous ways.

I took my circumstances, basically what I had to work with, and made the best of it that I could within the parameters of the Commandments and God has rewarded me for it.

I have gotten to positions of money being tight, but I have never been without. And multiple times customers have made large advance payments without any negotiation, or requests, on my part.

God provides for those who obey in faith.

BarneyFife · Jun 21, 2022

Naomanos said:
Good for you is all I can really say. I'm not willing to do what you did.

I didn't ask you to do or not do anything.

I'm not willing to lose my kids

Good to know

nor do I have money to just up and move as you apparently you did

Sorry to hear that, and I'm sorry for being somewhat prepared for what I was doing(?)

Child support will still accrue and if it accrues too much they take your driver's license and then throw you in jail.

Okay

Will you be willing to bail me out of jail and also provide the arrears for child support and pay to have my driver's license reinstated?

Planning on going to jail, are you? You'd be much better off depending on God than on me. I wouldn't ask someone I don't know to bail me out of jail but, then, I doubt that would ever be necessary unless I was wrongly arrested.

I do not believe that Saturday Sabbath keeping is for Christians.

Good to know. My post wasn't about "Saturday Sabbath keeping." I thought that mentioning it might avoid confusion about my explanation of my work schedule at the job I was talking about.

I also fully believe that God gave me this job.

Praise God! (Was that ever in dispute?)

So, I will continue working this job.

Not my business(?)

I made a comment about your subjective use of the word "reality" and gave a testimony of God's faithfulness to my family and me. You have to do as God convicts you, not me. I realize that.

You're assuming an awful lot here.

I always assume that everything I have is on loan from God and that I don't want any glory for anything He provides going anywhere but to God.

When my car breaks down, I don't sweat it because it's God's car.

My engine blew up in late January when I had COVID (when it rains, it pours). 99,100 miles on the vehicle. I couldn't come up with complete maintenance records for the warranty folks and I just knew they weren't going to give us a replacement engine.

Everything turned out fantastic, except when I got the car back, someone had hit-and-run sideswiped the left front fender just enough to ugly it up a little but not enough for my car insurance to kick in any. It's God's car. Evidently, He doesn't mind the damage. I'm good with whatever He wants.

The sooner folks relinquish ownership of everything they have (even children—I've had to go through that, too—my daughter suffered a non-fatal drowning; her appendix blew up once; she's the low-maintenance one) to God, the happier they'll be.

Naomanos · Jun 21, 2022

GEN2REV said:
That is why you wouldn't have the same results as Barny if you tried to do what he did.

I have had to create a job for myself to stay true to the Saturday Sabbath day of no work and God has continuously provided for me in miraculous ways.

I took my circumstances, basically what I had to work with, and made the best of it that I could within the parameters of the Commandments and God has rewarded me for it.

I have gotten to positions of money being tight, but I have never been without. And multiple times customers have made large advance payments without any negotiation, or requests, on my part.

God provides for those who obey in faith.

I will agree to disagree.

Naomanos · Jun 21, 2022

BarneyFife said:
I didn't ask you to do or not do anything.

Good to know

Sorry to hear that, and I'm sorry for being somewhat prepared for what I was doing(?)
Okay

Planning on going to jail, are you? You'd be much better off depending on God than on me. I wouldn't ask someone I don't know to bail me out of jail but, then, I doubt that would ever be necessary unless I was wrongly arrested.

Good to know. My post wasn't about "Saturday Sabbath keeping." I thought that mentioning it might avoid confusion about my explanation of my work schedule at the job I was talking about.

Praise God! (Was that ever in dispute?)

Not my business(?)

I made a comment about your subjective use of the word "reality" and gave a testimony of God's faithfulness to my family and me. You have to do as God convicts you, not me. I realize that.

You're assuming an awful lot here.

I always assume that everything I have is on loan from God and that I don't want any glory for anything He provides going anywhere but to God.

When my car breaks down, I don't sweat it because it's God's car.

My engine blew up in late January when I had COVID (when it rains, it pours). 99,100 miles on the vehicle. I couldn't come up with complete maintenance records for the warranty folks and I just knew they weren't going to give us a replacement engine.

Everything turned out fantastic, except when I got the car back, someone had hit-and-run sideswiped the left front fender just enough to ugly it up a little but not enough for my car insurance to kick in any. It's God's car. Evidently, He doesn't mind the damage. I'm good with whatever He wants.

The sooner folks relinquish ownership of everything they have (even children—I've had to go through that, too—my daughter suffered a non-fatal drowning; her appendix blew up once; she's the low-maintenance one) to God, the happier they'll be.

I will agree to disagree.

BarneyFife · Jun 21, 2022

Naomanos said:
I will agree to disagree.

About what? I didn't know we were at odds.

Naomanos · Jun 21, 2022

BarneyFife said:
About what? I didn't know we were at odds.

I feel as though we are.

I do disagree about your last paragraph on that post. Those are my kids and I am responsible for them. They die, it's on me. They get hurt, it's on me.

BarneyFife · Jun 21, 2022

Naomanos said:
I feel as though we are.

I do disagree about your last paragraph on that post. Those are my kids and I am responsible for them. They die, it's on me. They get hurt, it's on me.

Trust me (or not, that's fine), you're helpless. Ever read Job? On my best day, what I do for my family is so much less than what God does, it's not even comparable. I do what God gives me the strength to do, and I'm grateful for that strength, but I feel safer knowing that God keeps the devil from devouring them in a second. I don't think anyone's suggesting you just lie down and quit. Sure, you have your responsibility, but you don't even own yourself. Do you know how many hairs you have? Have you assigned each one a number? I see you are middle-aged. You'll learn soon, enough. God Bless you for what you're doing, Brother. Seriously.

GEN2REV · Jun 21, 2022

Naomanos said:
I will agree to disagree.

No worries.

Just sharing my testimony.

Maybe someday you will be in a position to reconsider the concept and you will have a couple positive testimonies from people who have taken the leap of faith.

But as long as you don't believe it's for Christians, I wouldn't recommend that leap.

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