What is the meaning of "Last Adam"?Therefore, it was a fallen flesh body that is capable, and desires, sin.
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What is the meaning of "Last Adam"?Therefore, it was a fallen flesh body that is capable, and desires, sin.
All these facts are true for all mankind, whether saved/Holy Spirit indwelled or not.What is the meaning of "Last Adam"?
Oh, really?No I'm not. In fact you are completely mischaracterizing me. Completely!
On the contrary. It's an "In light of the verses presented multiple times now, it's 100% irrelevant."So that's an "I don't know"?
@marks I indeed understand that the Lord Jesus is sinless; which is totally Scriptural and He is the Word Who became flesh (John 1.14).Give a shot at that question . . . what is the meaning, the "first Adam", and the "last Adam"?
This is something really worth understanding.
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Oh, really?
Let's test that, marks.
Real simple, too.
Do you subscribe to OSAS?
Yep. Yep, you do.
Huh. Imagine that.
Case closed.
It's another anti-OSAS post. He's done many of them in the past several days.@marks I indeed understand that the Lord Jesus is sinless; which is totally Scriptural and He is the Word Who became flesh (John 1.14).
But I don't understand all the seeming premises of the OP.
I do find it troubling that ppl can seemingly advocate as supposedly Scriptural the idea of "faith in the finished work of Christ PLUS something else" as supposedly essential for salvation.It's another anti-OSAS post. He's done many of them in the past several days.
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@faroukOSAS preaches a superman christ made of another kind of flesh, that they cannot possibly live like, and jehovah worshippers preach a superhero christ deified after the flesh, that they cannot possibly live like.
@marks This is a searching passage indeed......(often ignored by those who seem to have a superficial understanding of doctrine).Ephesians 2:1-5 LITV
1) and you being dead in deviations and sins,
2) in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit now working in the sons of disobedience,
3) among whom we also all conducted ourselves in times past in the lusts of our flesh, doing the things willed of the flesh and of the understanding, and were by nature the children of wrath, even as the rest.
4) But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,
5) even we being dead in deviations, He made us alive together with Christ (by grace you are being saved),
Are you realizing this passage is about those "being dead in deviations and sins"?
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Actually, if you'd ever addressed this point that I first made in post #7, LONG before you introduced new -outside- points, then you're right. We wouldn't be having this conversation.Actually, If you understood about that, we would not be having this conversation.
That's why I asked that particular question. If you don't know the answer, this should signal to you that there is something to be understood here. If you do know the answer . . . well, I know you don't. It's clear in how to speak of Jesus and mankind.
I'm most definitely arguing with a fiction.you are arguing with a fiction.
Flesh is flesh, marks.Which of these tell you that Jesus was born into flesh corrupted by sin??
These describe human sinners, not the Last Adam. Jesus came in the "likeness" of sinful flesh, not in sinful flesh.
Lol.Am I missing something here?
I've done this entire thread without you.If you just want to crack wise, do that without me.