Unlicensed Marriage in the US
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LearningToLetGo
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Ziggy
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Having been married twice. I don't see what the difference a piece of paper from the government makes.
Unless you want it to be a part of your financial status.
You will have no rights over your partner, to make decisions in medical situations.
Neither of you will be able to collect benefits from the other in the event of death.
I'm just listing out the secular reasons.
As far as "religion" goes, I don't know how God feels about having to go before someone and tie the knot so to speak.
I believe marriage is a union between a man and a woman.
And I'm not going to argue any other combination at this time...
And that Union is between the couple and God.
So, let me ask you..
How do YOU feel about it? and how does your partner feel about it?
Because whatever anyone else says, it's either advice or opinion.
Because I don't see a wedding in detail happening in the bible.
I see a nice dress. I see a groom and a bride.
But I don't see a ring, or broken glass. I don't hear any vows except , you are now bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh.
I suppose that could be considered a vow??
If her dad will accept a shoe, or some kind of payment for her?
Yeah..
It's what in both your hearts and what you feel is acceptable and perfect before God.
And I don't believe a worldly court can give you that kind of satisfaction.
Other than financial or medical authority over the other.
Thiat's my advice and my opinion.
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You mean common law marriage?
Bad idea. I’ve seen some nasty divorces from common law marriage. Much better to directly commit than has a mess.
Bad idea. I’ve seen some nasty divorces from common law marriage. Much better to directly commit than has a mess.
JohnPaul
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I believe it's either 3 or 5, which means my first "marriage" of 13 years was of the common law variety.
Are you asking about the morality of it or the wisdom of it?
Biblically it is supposed to be a covenant intended for life - one made in the eyes of both God and man - so scripturally avoiding a ceremony would seem to be getting around this. That may not be good for the conscience, because you will find the Holy Spirit continually convicting you about it until you do.
As for the wisdom of it, I would agree with Jane. Many couples who avoid a ceremony do so because one or both sense inwardly that there is something wrong with the relationship, so they are afraid to. And by maintaining the relationship without actually marrying, they postpone this realization indefinitely rather than figuring out if the relationship was really meant to be or not.
All relationships are different of course, but when I met the woman I finally married, there were no hangups whatsoever about things. We just did it.
Unlicensed Marriage in the US —> OP
Hi Jack,
Welcome to the forum.
First off, I will say what God said;
Gen 2:
[18] And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Secondly, I will say what the US founders said;
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects...
It is true the governing authorities feel a compulsion to dictate to the public at large they MUST be tested and licensed for everything they can possibly dream up....EXCEPT....requiring themselves to be tested, competent, licensed to sit in a governing servants seat, that they confuse with that being a dictating seat.
Consider Gods Word.
Consider your children heirs, her children heirs.
Consider your assets.
Consider making A Contract which you Both are in Agreement with.
People make “wills”, on their own, or via the expense of an attorney, file them away, forget about things changing, don’t bother to update.
People can also make their OWN contracts, sign their declared contract, in the presence of a Public Notary.
Declaration of sound mind and body, freely and willingly attesting to the forgoing contract.
I would suggest, making such a contract, notifying heirs, having a safe keeping place to keep the contract, in the event it be necessary to review, Name a Trustee, IN the Contract...of WHO, and WHEN the sealed Contract is to be OPENED, and in WHOSE presence.
UPDATE the contract YEARLY, expressly VOIDING each previous YEAR.
Include; Contract IS Effective ONLY, as long as you Co-habitat.
Remember; “one moving out”, does not necessarily prove, not Co-habitating.
Include in the Contract...agreement to dissolve Co-habitation, and division of assets, and legal change of address.
I will note...the “heir” thing can be TRICKY.
Completely LEAVING OUT “one” child heir, can become a Can of Worms, for protest.
Y’all know your own children. Find out IF there is a particular ‘item’ they desire to have someday. Name them and the specific ‘item’ you each are “agreeable” for that child to have.
As far as ‘monetary” assets, for example, $100.00 each child named, set that aside for each, put with the contract, Trustee dispenses, all children witness.
As far as all other tangible belongings...decide how to dispose.
Remaining living to enjoy or everything sold by the trustee, and divided equally among all heirs if and when.
Will also note...consider a “constant” side contract of sorts, to remain, until both are deceased, concerning the “heirs”. IF one dies, the others Children remain “included”.
May seem like a load of hullabaloo, however, when you and she clearly make your own desires agreeably known, you should have peace your desires are meet.
Adding, you posting on a Christian website, is an indication of your consideration of Gods stance.
Pray with your woman, For God to Bless you both to enjoy your time together.
Glory to God,
Taken
The way I see it, marriage is not something that should be determined by the state and is instead something defined by God. Therefore the government should not have a role in saying whether or not somebody is married. As it is sometimes what the law defines as being married is different then what God defines as being married. An example would be same sex marriage. In 2015 same sex marriage was legalized throughout the USA in a decision by the Supreme Court. However, that is not how God defines marriage. The way God defines marriage is as a union between a man and a woman, therefore according to God two men, or for that matter two women, can't be married. So a legal marriage between two men or two women is not a Godly marriage, even if it's legal.
This issue with having the government complete uninvolved in marriage is that marriage does have a legal component. For example, naming people as beneficiaries for insurance, legal protection, etc. Also, if a long-term couple splits up, divorce proceedings to split assets, custody, debts, etc are very legally intensive.
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