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BloodBought 1953

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If you believe in a "If I believe hard enough" - Word of Faith Cult Doctrine that teaches that you can manifest what you "believe" in, then yes.



lol.....that sounds like the religion of Oprah Winfrey and her Ilk....I am no fan of her and her Lost Crowd....

All I do is agree with Paul ....Paul said in 1 Cor15:1-4 that if you BELIEVE that Jesus died for your sins and rose from the dead you WILL be Saved”......

I just so happen to Believe that and I Believe it to the extent that I REST in it as God commanded us to do in Hebrews 3 and 4.....If we do not “ Sabbath” or “ REST” in Paul’s Gospel Of Grace , God declares us “ Disobedient ” and Guity Of “ UNBELIEF”—— pretty serious stuff but seeing how I Simply Believe the Gospel and Rest in it, I’m Covered—- how about you?

Side note—- if you REST in the Gospel , that means that you don’t ADD to it as Paul warned in Galatians or you will be “ Severed from Christ” and “Fall From Grace”......

When people say, “ Jesus Saves—- BUT!” , rest assured, they are “ Adding to the Gospel”......it’s Jesus Saves. Period. The old hymn has it right, it really is “ Nothing But The Blood”.....
 
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well i usaualy look carefuly at the postings if i see a post that looks intresting i will respond, & maybe i'll post a couple posts too, it's true that brothers & sisters in the Lord will disagree about certain things but that's ok we can't expect everybody to agree with everything we say
 
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Side note—- if you REST in the Gospel , that means that you don’t ADD to it as Paul warned in Galatians or you will be “ Severed from Christ” and “Fall From Grace”......

When people say, “ Jesus Saves—- BUT!” , rest assured, they are “ Adding to the Gospel”......it’s Jesys Saves. Period. The old hymn has it right, it really is “ Nothing But The Blood”.....
Hmm. Let's see about that.

"... serve Him with a perfect heart (is your heart perfectly committed to God?) and with a willing mind (is your mind willing?): for the Lord searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek Him, He will be found of thee; but but BUT ... if thou forsake Him, He will cast thee off forever."
1 Chronicles 28:9

Looks like somebody's neglecting their Bible again. Shame, shame.

That's probably just a fluke, though, right? It's probably just a mistranslated, misinterpreted passage that doesn't mean what it appears to mean at all. Ya know what? I bet it's just one of those OT passages that just doesn't apply at all to us today and there's no precedent in the NT anywhere to confirm it.

Hmm. Let's see about that.

"I am the True Vine and My Father is the gardener. Every branch in Me that beareth not fruit He taketh away: ... If a man abide not in me (if thou forsake Him-if thou stop obeying - where have we heard that before?), he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and gathered and cast into the fire and is burned."
John 15:2
John 15:6

Well, there ya go. Looks like it actually is a legit passage and is fully confirmed by Jesus Himself in the NT.

I guess the "old hymn" really is being mistranslated as well - and it's "Jesus saves, BUT ...!!!" after all!!

That's why we're here. To correct these misunderstandings and these intentionally-False teachings.

Correct your doctrine and keep learning.
 

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well i usaualy look carefuly at the postings if i see a post that looks intresting i will respond, & maybe i'll post a couple posts too..

Yes, personally I rarely read long posts because I prefer those that are short, sharp and straight to the point..:)

"The more the words,the less the meaning,and how does that profit anyone?" (Ecclesiastes 6:11 NIV)
 
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Hmm. Let's see about that.

"... serve Him with a perfect heart (is your heart perfectly committed to God?) and with a willing mind (is your mind willing?): for the Lord searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek Him, He will be found of thee; but but BUT ... if thou forsake Him, He will cast thee off forever."
1 Chronicles 28:9

Looks like somebody's neglecting their Bible again. Shame, shame.

That's probably just a fluke, though, right? It's probably just a mistranslated, misinterpreted passage that doesn't mean what it appears to mean at all. Ya know what? I bet it's just one of those OT passages that just doesn't apply at all to us today and there's no precedent in the NT anywhere to confirm it.

Hmm. Let's see about that.

"I am the True Vine and My Father is the gardener. Every branch in Me that beareth not fruit He taketh away: ... If a man abide not in me (if thou forsake Him-if thou stop obeying - where have we heard that before?), he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and gathered and cast into the fire and is burned."
John 15:2
John 15:6

Well, there ya go. Looks like it actually is a legit passage and is fully confirmed by Jesus Himself in the NT.

I guess the "old hymn" really is being mistranslated as well - and it's "Jesus saves, BUT ...!!!" after all!!

That's why we're here. To correct these misunderstandings and these intentionally-False teachings.

Correct your doctrine and keep learning.




When it comes to Salvation, my “ Doctrine” is “ Nothing But The Blood” .....what is “ your” Doctrine, pray tell.....YOU tell ME—- what must I do to be Saved?

When the Phillipian Jailer asked that same identical question, Paul told him to “ BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus , and thou shalt be Saved!”.... Apparently you disagree with the answer to that question that turns out to be so simple that you reject it —— shame, shame....
 

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That's why we're here.


“ There are those here that Trouble You” , Paul warned his followers in regard to those who came into the churches to ADD to Gospel Of Pure Grace ......

THIS is the TRUE REASON that you Are here....Paul’s teachings removed the Chains Of Legalism and We were “ Set Free” —— You want to put those “ Chains” back on......once again, if I may quote you—- “ shame, shame”....
 
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When it comes to Salvation, my “ Doctrine” is “ Nothing But The Blood” .....what is “ your” Doctrine, pray tell.....YOU tell ME—- what must I do to be Saved?

When the Phillipian Jailer asked that same identical question, Paul told him to “ BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus , and thou shalt be Saved!”.... Apparently you disagree with the answer to that question that turns out to be so simple that you reject it —— shame, shame....
You're the one disagreeing with Scripture. Not me.

Is it your position that the verses YOU post are the only verses in the Bible that address the matter?

If you are humble enough to admit that all the verses I have shown you on the subject DO exist, then that means your assessment on the matter is ... incomplete.

What do you not understand about that concept?
 

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When it comes to Salvation, my “ Doctrine” is “ Nothing But The Blood” .....what is “ your” Doctrine, pray tell.....YOU tell ME
My doctrine is the doctrine that the Bible teaches and I have never failed to demonstrate, using Scripture, how that doctrine is constructed.
Paul’s teachings removed the Chains Of Legalism and We were “ Set Free” —— You want to put those “ Chains” back on......once again, if I may quote you—- “ shame, shame”....
I don't see how. I've never once taught legalism. I teach exactly what the Bible says. Would you like a few examples?

Shore!

John 14:15
John 14:21
John 15:14
John 15:10
1 John 2:6
1 John 3:4
Revelation 14:12

Any questions?
 
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My doctrine is the doctrine that the Bible teaches and I have never failed to demonstrate, using Scripture, how that doctrine is constructed


* BIG YAWN* .....you and 50 other people in here make that same claim—-please show us all how “ YOU” got to be so Special........
 
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You're the one disagreeing with Scripture. Not me.

Is it your position that the verses YOU post are the only verses in the Bible that address the matter?

If you are humble enough to admit that all the verses I have shown you on the subject DO exist, then that means your assessment on the matter is ... incomplete.

What do you not understand about that concept?




You have some excellent Verses! Your Problem is that “ my” Verses trump yours....You rely on verses that are mainly from the “ Old Plan” .....That Old Covenant That God “ found Fault with” .....Our Doctrine in this Present Age Of Grace is spelled out in the letters of Paul.....He was God’s “ Chosen Vessel” to deliver the “ Good News” Of the Gospel to us Gentiles .... You don't seen to have any good tidings to offer anybody......you’re still stuck having to pull Verses out of Chronicles to justify your Legalism —- A Book that is great but it was written to Jews under the Law.... All of the Bible is written “ to” us to learn from, But not everything was written “ For” us to hold as Doctrine....

There’s a New Plan now That relies on Love and Faith and Grace....instead of fear and obligation and will - Power ......you oughta give it a shot! Learn to REST in the Gospel —— you seem to have a lot of
Angerness and Bitterness In your posts,......completely devoid of any joy or humor....” Joy” is the hallmark of any true Christian That I ever knew—- I Picture you with a big, permanent scowl on your face—- the hallmark of the poor, Confused “ Religionist” ...

I attempted to make a humorous observation about how many posts turn into OSAS vs. NOSAS in the end, and you responded with a hateful remark.....are you as “ hatefull” as you appear to be?
 
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Then counsel HIM and stop mucking up this thread with as many worthless posts as you can shell out.

How many posts back now did you say anything relevant to the thread or useful to anybody reading along?

You're trolling and goading. Wasting people's time.



Wow! And Some people in here accuse “ me” of being mean—- this guy makes “ me” look like Mother Teresa! Lol.....He sure seems like a “ Fun” guy, doesn’t he? ....I’m seriously considering asking him to go on a fishing trip with me sometime! Lol....
 

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All of the Bible is written “ to” us to learn from, But not everything was written “ For” us to hold as Doctrine....

It’s so easy to expose your erroneous doctrine:

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16)
 

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It’s so easy to expose your erroneous doctrine:

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16)



Of course! But “ Doctrines” Change....
And you had best be aware of the New ones....

God “ Found fault” with the old doctrine ( in that it had NO POWER to Save) and that is why He switched to a New One.....” The Gospel has the POWER to SAVE!”

The entire Bible was Cut in half ....that’s because the “ doctrine” changed from Law to Grace! Do you get your current Doctrine from Moses or Paul—— I go with the latter....

That “Reproof” thingy is valid also—- you just received yours....and you talk about “ easy?” ....it’s like shooting fish in a Barrel” .....lol....
 

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Do we need a time-out?



I can’t speak for the other side, but there is no anger coming from me....I wrote 99% of my posts with a smile on my face and a twinkle in my eye....and I always try to throw some stuff in that's at least a tiny bit humorous....


It’s just the nature and the misfortune of e-mail and the like ( as theses forums are) where facial expressions and vocal infections can’t be picked up...In real life, I’m just about the sweetest guy on the planet.....it’s unfortunate for me that so many people only see the “ stern” side of my personality in here....
It’s just that I often have to put on my “ War Bonnet” to fight the Good Fight Of standing Firm against the Legalists, Religionists , Hypocrites and Tares That come into Forums to “ Trouble Us”, as Paul said.....Some Of us do as ordered and REST in Paul’s Gospel Of Pure Grace....that brings us a God - Given Peace and Joy That the Confused Religionist just can’t understand ....I am a “ Free Man in Christ”, and that just Kills those with limited intelligence that can’t understand it....they want to put “ the Children Of The Free” back under bondage again....that will Not go unopposed as long as I am around...
 
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