Can angels have sex?

theefaith said:

Angels have no body!

they are nobody’s!

how can they have sex?

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I don’t know (if angels can have sex). What is strange flesh, I wonder?
1 Corinthians 15:38-42 But God gives it a body as it has pleased him, and to every seed his own body. [39] All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. [40] There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. [41] There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differs from another star in glory. [42] So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

“so also is the resurrection of the dead”
Matthew 22:29-30 Jesus answered and said unto them, You do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. [30] For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

When He says to them “You do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.” What power? What power should a woman have over her head because of the angels (messengers)?
Revelation 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Revelation 2:12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;

Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;


Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Revelation 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;


Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

VictoryinJesus said:

When He says to them “You do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.” What power? What power should a woman have over her head because of the angels (messengers)?

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woman?
Revelation 12:1-9 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: [2] And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. [3] And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. [4] And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. [5] And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. [6] And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. [7] And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, [8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. [9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceived the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

theefaith said:

yea there are fallen angels who inspired the sins of men

it does not say they can have sex

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Yeah, it DOES say they HAD sexual intercourse with woman, it is written in Genesis 6:

Gen 6:1-4
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
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The Jude 6-7 verses are pointing to the above event by those fallen angels. The Isaiah 26:14 verse is about their hybrid giant offspring, God revealing that they shall not be raised from the dead. All... men born in the flesh are to be raised from the dead, even the wicked. So why not those? It's because those were a 'hybrid' race that God did not create. They were the literal offspring of those angels mating with flesh woman, as written there. And there enough accounts elsewhere in Bible Scripture about their great stature to further prove that is what happened.

Davy said:

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man

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The “sons of God” are men. As evidenced in verse 3, “My spirit shall not always strive with MAN”. It does not say anything about angels.

It’s just your imagination running wild.

ewq1938 said:

If that were true, no literal giants would come from such unions but giants did exist so another explanation is needed. Also, "sons of God" in the OT is always a reference to angels. It's clear that bad angels left their original habitation and came to human women and not long after God sent a flood that killed a lot of people.

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Not once were angels called the sons of God. Angels are called stars. Angels are called messengers. Angels even take on human form. The sons of God were those humans created on the 6th Day. Adam was a son of God created on the 6th day. A son of God is the point of being created in the direct image of God. That image is body, soul, and spirit.

Adam stopped being a son of God when he died, the instant he disobeyed God. From that point on Adam was recognized along with Eve as the parents of all humans.

However the sons of God were also humans, they were not God. Adam did not stop being human. He just stopped being a son of God in the direct image of God. None of the sons of God were on the ark with Noah. Although the genetic makeup of the females could have brought part of that genetic mixing along that would influence future generations. What did happen was that the descendants of those created on the 6th day after many generations did procreate with Adam's flesh and blood after several generations.

This was not some philosophical mixing of Cain and Seth's offspring. There were many sons of God created on the 6th day. After the day of rest, a Lord's Day (2 Peter 3:8) God then planted the Garden of Eden and placed a son of God in that Garden, and later called him Adam. Some time later, God created Eve from Adam. Some would say that it was a separation of the male and female sexes to create 2 instead of 1. The sons of God may not have been both male and female. Genesis 1 does not go into great detail about their lives on earth. No one knows. It is only an educated guess, with very little education to go with that guess.

They were not angels. Scripture never says they came to earth. Scripture states angels "went on strike" as their job was "being stars". Leaving their estate is saying they walked off the job and followed Satan. They were immediately placed in chains of darkness, the literal opposite form as being a star. Then put in the pit, the place prepared for them by God. Jude 1 gives that account. The only time they come to earth is at the 5th Trumpet. They certainly are not shown as having sex with humans then.

The closest we get to angels and sex is when Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Those angels literally blinded the men of Sodom for even thinking about it. Of course humans have tried to fantasize about such things for thousands of years. Angels can appear in human form, but no where are they called sons of God. It is God sending them in human form, not that they have the ability to just do that on a whim.

Taken said:

Yes Angels can have sex with female and or male humans.

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So can inanimate objects.

Angels have never had sex with humans period.

That assertion goes against God's Word and creation itself.

BTW, angels do not have free will. If they did, they would play with human's minds and change the constellations around once a week like humans move furniture, or change habitations every so often. It would get quite confusing after a while all the different constellations, or meaningless for navigation and seasons.

Timtofly said:

So can inanimate objects.

Angels have never had sex with humans period.

That assertion goes against God's Word and creation itself.

BTW, angels do not have free will. If they did, they would play with human's minds and change the constellations around once a week like humans move furniture, or change habitations every so often. It would get quite confusing after a while all the different constellations, or meaningless for navigation and seasons.

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So how did we get the Nephilim?

Davy said:

Yeah, it DOES say they HAD sexual intercourse with woman, it is written in Genesis 6:

Gen 6:1-4
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
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The Jude 6-7 verses are pointing to the above event by those fallen angels. The Isaiah 26:14 verse is about their hybrid giant offspring, God revealing that they shall not be raised from the dead. All... men born in the flesh are to be raised from the dead, even the wicked. So why not those? It's because those were a 'hybrid' race that God did not create. They were the literal offspring of those angels mating with flesh woman, as written there. And there enough accounts elsewhere in Bible Scripture about their great stature to further prove that is what happened.

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Exactly.

Taken said:

Do ya think there were giants?

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Do you think God could figure out the genetics that produce giants?

Angels have the job of being lights/stars. That would be light beings, not necessarily larger beings. We really have no clue how large those created on the 6th day were. This current corruptible flesh is not the same as permanent incorruptible flesh..

JohnPaul said:

So how did we get the Nephilim?

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Do you mean why are there no giants today?

Marty fox said:

The sons of the faithful line of Seth who conformed and married the daughters of the unfaithful line of Cain

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At last , someone with wise insight!
If no one said it, I was going to…
Thx

Helen said:

At last , someone with wise insight!
If no one said it, I was going to…
Thx

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Thank you Helen

Where is that big basket of leaven?

Who is Jesus speaking to?
Mat 22:23 The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him,

So already we know that the Saducees are mocking Jesus, because they don't even believe in a resurection to begin with.

The question is about a woman who had 7 husbands, and after they all die, who's wife will she be.
Mat 22:28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.

Here is a triple whammy answer.
First he calls them out for not even knowing scripture:
Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

Then he hits them with an answer regarding the resurrection, which they don't even believe in:
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Then he explains to the Saducees, that only the living make it into the kingdom. So they don't have to worry about it.

Mat 22:31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
Mat 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

He is mocking them.

But let's talk about the angels that left their first estate to marry women.
Who are these?
Angels in the bible are messengers of God. You could say they are the priests and deacons and bishops, etc..
People sitting in "high places of authority"
These people that hand down the word of God to the clergy.
Now we are told that there is a "change" taking place in the heirarchy of the church:

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

Has this ever happened in the OT though? Or is this a new thing?

Psa 78:55 He cast out the heathen also before them, and divided them an inheritance by line, and made the tribes of Israel to dwell in their tents.
Psa 78:56 Yet they tempted and provoked the most high God, and kept not his testimonies:
Psa 78:57 But turned back, and dealt unfaithfully like their fathers: they were turned aside like a deceitful bow.
Psa 78:58 For they provoked him to anger with their high places, and moved him to jealousy with their graven images.
Psa 78:59 When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel:
Psa 78:60 So that he forsook the tabernacle of Shiloh, the tent which he placed among men;
Psa 78:61 And delivered his strength into captivity, and his glory into the enemy's hand.
Psa 78:62 He gave his people over also unto the sword; and was wroth with his inheritance.
Psa 78:63 The fire consumed their young men; and their maidens were not given to marriage.
Psa 78:64 Their priests fell by the sword; and their widows made no lamentation.

Jde 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

angels:
מֲלְאָךְ mălʼâk, mal-awk'; from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher):—ambassador, angel, king, messenger.

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Luk 13:20 And again he said, Whereunto shall I liken the kingdom of God?
Luk 13:21 It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

who is the woman?
And why would she hide leaven in the teachings of the kingdom of God?
To cause confusion?
Make it appear as something it is not?

Why?

Hugs

The early Church well understood about the Nephilim (giants) produced from the mating of angels with woman. It's sad that so many of the crept in unawares have sneaked into the Christian Church today that are trying to remove this Biblical teaching, especially in light of Lord Jesus' warning that it may happen again in the latter days...

1 Cor 11:10
10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
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Matt 24:36-39
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but My Father only.
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
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What was the idea of marrying in Genesis 6 about as written? It was about the "sons of God" (angels) seeing the daughters of Adam that they were beautiful, and took wives of them, and their offspring were the 'giants' (Nephilim). That happened in Noah's day, and also after that, meaning again after the flood, which is why God commanded Israel to literally wipe out specific nations in the lands of Canaan where those giants had their nest.

Rev 12:7-12
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, 'Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.'
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
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Many simply are not prepared today for what is coming upon this earth in these latter days.

Ziggy said:

Where is that big basket of leaven?

Who is Jesus speaking to?
Mat 22:23 The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him,

So already we know that the Saducees are mocking Jesus, because they don't even believe in a resurection to begin with.

The question is about a woman who had 7 husbands, and after they all die, who's wife will she be.
Mat 22:28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
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And yet another.... one deceived by their cherry-pickin' of Bible Scripture.

Firstly brethren, those who refuse to believe those "sons of God" of Genesis 6 were angels cannot try to use Jesus' description about those of the resurrection being 'as the angels of God in heaven'. Why?

Because they don't believe those "sons of God" in Genesis 6 were angels in the first place, but just big bullies, evil flesh born men only, so nor do they believe their offspring of 'giants' (Nephilim) were from the mating of angels with flesh woman. So can't use the resurrection idea at all there, and trying to only proves their Biblical illiteracy in this matter.

Job 1:6-7
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the LORD said unto Satan, 'Whence comest thou?' Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, 'From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.'
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That label "sons of God" in the Book of Job is applied to the angels that appeared with Satan before God's Throne. Just WHERE is God's Throne? In His Heavenly abode, the realm of where the angels live.

JohnPaul said:

Exactly.

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I can't believe you all think that humans and angels are just the same created beings. Up there they/we are spirit. Down here they/we are physical. That is some messed up theology.

Timtofly said:

I can't believe you all think that humans and angels are just the same created beings. Up there they/we are spirit. Down here they/we are physical. That is some messed up theology.

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I never said Angels are the same created beings as humans.

Davy said:

Many simply are not prepared today for what is coming upon this earth in these latter days.

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It's already here brother,
Just people are looking in all the wrong places.

Davy said:

1 Cor 11:10
10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
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What is the "power" on her head? Is it not the husband?
And in the man's case, is not the "power" on his head Christ?

Why should a woman have power on her head, because of the angels?
Angels have "authority" as I shown above. They are God's messengers, not unlike prophets and priests and teachers.
What if these "angels" teach women things "contrary" to what the word of God teaches?
Who is going to guide her with authority? Is it not her husband?

Do you believe that some establishments could persuade young women to do things, they aught not do?
Have you ever heard of cults?

2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

There is this place called the firmament.
It resides somewhere between the clouds above and the ground below.
Now I like it when my head is in the clouds. It's kind of light and easy there.
Sometimes I like it when my feet are fully planted on the ground. There's no wiggle room.
Somewhere, this firmament is where heaven and earth meet.
There is a kind of balance between leaven and unleavened.
Leaven is when you allow your imaginations to get the better of you.
And unleavened is when your entrenched in legalism and law.

Davy said:

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

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Now this here is what we're dealing with today.
We have the "world" and it's "imaginations" running wild through the streets.
And those who "pretend" to be God's messengers are spreading leaven everywhere, while they also tell you you have to keep the law.

You have to learn to discern between what we know and what we're told to believe.
Because as in Noah's day, everybody is doing it their own way.
And one day God is going to set it straight.

Walking on clouds is ok, walking on sand is alright too.
But this firmament, is as tough as a Rock.
That's where we should be standing.

Hugs

Timtofly said:

I can't believe you all think that humans and angels are just the same created beings. Up there they/we are spirit. Down here they/we are physical. That is some messed up theology.

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Per Scripture though, angels when appearing on this earth, they are still... in their angelic body form. Nowhere does God's Word teach that angels must put on flesh just to appear on earth to flesh man; but that false idea is what many think.

Jude 6-7 exists to explain... the difference of what the angels in Genesis 6 did, with cohabitating with flesh woman, and producing the hybrid giant race.

We are told in the Book of Jude those angels LEFT their 'first estate' and their own habitation. It is suggesting they chose to put on flesh, leaving their station as angels.