"A Different Kind Of War..."

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Not long after the war in Ukraine started there were videos of some US volunteers saying how it was a trap and not to go, because the Russians appeared to be specifically targeting them for destruction, and how they were being poorly equipped by the Ukrainians and not allowed to leave the country. A few days later, I had a dream in which I saw Putin sitting at a table looking straight at me. He was holding a chicken leg up to his mouth, and was about to eat it.

The message was clear enough at the time, though I didn't have much proof, but evidence now appears to be emerging that the Russians know that many foreign mercenaries cannot handle the fighting in Ukraine, so they are prime targets.

The reason foreign mercenaries are fleeing the battlefield are two-fold.

1. They know they are being targeted, and that the Russians will show them no mercy, and
2. They've never been in a serious artillery war before, one directed by drone surveillance for better accuracy.

Not a weak man's war.

 

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Not long after the war in Ukraine started there were videos of some US volunteers saying how it was a trap and not to go, because the Russians appeared to be specifically targeting them for destruction, and how they were being poorly equipped by the Ukrainians and not allowed to leave the country. A few days later, I had a dream in which I saw Putin sitting at a table looking straight at me. He was holding a chicken leg up to his mouth, and was about to eat it.

The message was clear enough at the time, though I didn't have much proof, but evidence now appears to be emerging that the Russians know that many foreign mercenaries cannot handle the fighting in Ukraine, so they are prime targets.

The reason foreign mercenaries are fleeing the battlefield are two-fold.

1. They know they are being targeted, and that the Russians will show them no mercy, and
2. They've never been in a serious artillery war before, one directed by drone surveillance for better accuracy.

Not a weak man's war.


Drone warfare has been working far better for the Ukranians than the Russians.

Ukraine is now at almost teh levels of supplies due to the west continuing to re- arm them.

Russia on the other hand has already suffered great humiliation because the war is now grinding into the sixth month and they have accomplished little.

They are barely advancing in a few areas and are being pushed back in others.

Even by conservative estimates from non Western reporting, Russia has lost:

2 entire army groups in dead
1100 main battle tanks
125 MLRS
150 artillery systems
200 planes.
160 helicopters
2700 armored combat vehicles
200+ supply and fuel trucks.
500+ drones.
15 ships on the seas.

With their CCC, ammo depots and fuel depots being constantly hit by the HIMARS systems provided by th ewest, Reproting from India, Pakistan and thailand all say the Russian Armies are demoralized and many are refusing to fight anymore.
 
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Drone warfare has been working far better for the Ukranians than the Russians.

Ukraine is now at almost teh levels of supplies due to the west continuing to re- arm them.

Russia on the other hand has already suffered great humiliation because the war is now grinding into the sixth month and they have accomplished little.

They are barely advancing in a few areas and are being pushed back in others.

Even by conservative estimates from non Western reporting, Russia has lost:

2 entire army groups in dead
1100 main battle tanks
125 MLRS
150 artillery systems
200 planes.
160 helicopters
2700 armored combat vehicles
200+ supply and fuel trucks.
500+ drones.
15 ships on the seas.

With their CCC, ammo depots and fuel depots being constantly hit by the HIMARS systems provided by the west, Reproting from India, Pakistan and Thailand all say the Russian Armies are demoralized and many are refusing to fight anymore.


The stats may be a bit over-exaggerated and I've no way to know about Russian morale just yet, but one thing is for sure: If the Ukrainians go ahead with a supposed counter-offensive that's coming and Russia starts losing territory they once gained, their morale could really start going in the wrong direction.

This would be especially true in drone warfare. You're constantly being haunted and hounded by surveillance, and if their supply lines and logistics are getting torn up like they say they are (which I fully believe), they'll become sitting ducks, fighting endlessly in a war they are progressively losing ground in.

 

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Ukraine is now at almost teh levels of supplies due to the west continuing to re- arm them.


This is why the war was lost from Day 1 for the Russians. It was destined to become an arms and supply war, and they're now in the process of showing the world why the West has such an advantage there.

That's what a battle for the recapture of Kherson would be; just part of a larger campaign to cut off Russian re-supply.


 

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I dont believe Ukraine will win. This war is an artillery and remote missile war with not a lot of ground troop meeting ground troops.
The way I see it, Ukraine will lose too many army personal to be an effective army.
Ukraine will come to terms with Russia, as in sue for peace eventually.
That video is biased as it comes from western media, of course they will say those things, it is propagandizement.

A major issue is Russian oil and gas and Europe this winter, something has to happen or people and business will be frozen out. I dont think the EU leaders are prepared for the massive anger of their serfs to come, sanction on Russia are going to have to be lightened for food and fuel concerns.
 
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  • His 1st paragraph gives us some useful overview ‘factoids’, practical details as to what Ukraine has so far lost.
  • He reviews the western MSM lies about the true military situation in Ukraine (he’s a military specialist).
  • Kiev and Zelensky have NO AUTONOMY. Directions come from Washington and the Deep State (D.S. is our word for these people)
  • Putin’s popularity at home has soared; traitors and others have been spotlighted. (Hasn’t this been the case over Covid, too, for all our countries?)
  • The Anglo-Zionist Empire / Neocons (our words – deep state, cabal, KM) is on its way out but is very dangerous as it exits the stage. The entire conflict is between these people and Russia; it is EXISTENTIAL.
  • The war with Russia is now more economic than military or media-driven. Yet Russia is doing very well as the West declines economically. It has a REAL economy based on tangible products and is forming global economic alliances.
  • Western countries are implementing suicidal approaches and policies, put in place by puppet leaders who are destroying their countries from within.
  • The rest of the world (i.e. some very major countries) is moving away from this madness.
  • Putin, in power since around 2000, turned things around for Russia after the rape of the country by the Neocons in the 90s.
  • The war between these two sides is using Ukraine merely as its theatre of operations. The DS is no more fond of Ukrainians than it is Russians.
  • Putin never bluffs; the West cannot win – it will not have its Final Solution on Russia.
Points from the Saker blog
Five Months into the Special Military Operation – a Summary - Europe Reloaded
 
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I dont believe Ukraine will win. This war is an artillery and remote missile war with not a lot of ground troop meeting ground troops.
The way I see it, Ukraine will lose too many army personal to be an effective army.
Ukraine will come to terms with Russia, as in sue for peace eventually.
That video is biased as it comes from western media, of course they will say those things, it is propagandizement.

A major issue is Russian oil and gas and Europe this winter, something has to happen or people and business will be frozen out. I dont think the EU leaders are prepared for the massive anger of their serfs to come, sanction on Russia are going to have to be lightened for food and fuel concerns.

So what news sources do you use? do you buy into the Russian propaganda? Where do you get what you believe is unbiased news.

I trust WION the most. It is India which is the most neutral of all sources. Plus Crux is good.

Well Ukraine is winning now. They are being resupplied faster than Russia can resupply.

According to all sources the HIMARS system has been a game changer in the theater. Russia is seeing their depots of fuel and ammo decimated.

Also with the bridges yused to resupply the Russian front troops decimated, teh front line troops are very thin on ammo.

According to reports, Russia is firing close to 40,000 artillery shells a day.
 

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  • His 1st paragraph gives us some useful overview ‘factoids’, practical details as to what Ukraine has so far lost.
  • He reviews the western MSM lies about the true military situation in Ukraine (he’s a military specialist).
  • Kiev and Zelensky have NO AUTONOMY. Directions come from Washington and the Deep State (D.S. is our word for these people)
  • Putin’s popularity at home has soared; traitors and others have been spotlighted. (Hasn’t this been the case over Covid, too, for all our countries?)
  • The Anglo-Zionist Empire / Neocons (our words – deep state, cabal, KM) is on its way out but is very dangerous as it exits the stage. The entire conflict is between these people and Russia; it is EXISTENTIAL.
  • The war with Russia is now more economic than military or media-driven. Yet Russia is doing very well as the West declines economically. It has a REAL economy based on tangible products and is forming global economic alliances.
  • Western countries are implementing suicidal approaches and policies, put in place by puppet leaders who are destroying their countries from within.
  • The rest of the world (i.e. some very major countries) is moving away from this madness.
  • Putin, in power since around 2000, turned things around for Russia after the rape of the country by the Neocons in the 90s.
  • The war between these two sides is using Ukraine merely as its theatre of operations. The DS is no more fond of Ukrainians than it is Russians.
  • Putin never bluffs; the West cannot win – it will not have its Final Solution on Russia.
Points from the Saker blog
Five Months into the Special Military Operation – a Summary - Europe Reloaded

You really are a marxist aren't you.
 

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Well since that report, Russia has had to retreat from many of the gains they made, because of the Ukranian counter offensive.

Russia has already lost the war. Russia has weakened itself by the enormous losses it has occurred in this war. It also has lost because teh war against a much smaller country militarily is going on its 6th month.

Tens of thousands of Russians have been arrested for protesting this war.
Putin is reduced to hiring mercenaries to fight as recruitments are way way down.
Russian GDP is shrinking and inflation is higher there than in the west.
Russia has spent over $1 trillion on this war which is half their gdp.
 

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This is why the war was lost from Day 1 for the Russians. It was destined to become an arms and supply war, and they're now in the process of showing the world why the West has such an advantage there.

That's what a battle for the recapture of Kherson would be; just part of a larger campaign to cut off Russian re-supply.



My only fear is Russian pride. They will do anything to not lose. soI fear that they would go tactical nuke if the situation gets more dire.

Ukraine will seek to push Russia out of Crimea and if Russia doesn't go nuke- they just may do it!
 

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That video is biased as it comes from western media, of course they will say those things, it is propagandizement.


I understand that, and it's true that you have to view anything the MSM says with skepticism. But the strange thing about the West is, when they get ready to launch a major military operation, they will telegraph it in advance. It's as if they know by that point exactly what the enemy can do and that they can't stop it, so they don't mind telling the whole world in advance.

I think they know that logistically the Russians are stretched too thin right now to do much about a counter-offensive in the South, so they are going to politicize it for all it's worth.

I hate to see it happen really... and lest I say something definitively un-Christian, I think I'll leave it there.
 

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I understand that, and it's true that you have to view anything the MSM says with skepticism. But the strange thing about the West is, when they get ready to launch a major military operation, they will telegraph it in advance. It's as if they know by that point exactly what the enemy can do and that they can't stop it, so they don't mind telling the whole world in advance.

I think they know that logistically the Russians are stretched too thin right now to do much about a counter-offensive in the South, so they are going to politicize it for all it's worth.

I hate to see it happen really... and lest I say something definitively un-Christian, I think I'll leave it there.

Don't worry about saying something un-christian. This is simply another war in the world. or as jesus said- this is just another normal event in this age- "For you shall hear of wars, and rumores of wars, but the ened is not yet.

This is simply just another war!
 

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You really are a marxist aren't you.

Ronald, I invite your involvement, but since this is my thread I'm not into members using derogatory names in order to flippantly label people. It's not cool, and it just starts crap.

Post all you want but keep that business out of this thread or I may report you on it, or anyone else who should follow suit.

God bless,
- H
 

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Don't worry about saying something un-christian. This is simply another war in the world. or as jesus said- this is just another normal event in this age- "For you shall hear of wars, and rumores of wars, but the ened is not yet.

This is simply just another war!


Nah. I'm truly working on trying to not be as volatile. Just like I would police you on some of the stuff you say, if I weren't policing myself then I'd be a hypocrite. But I appreciate the sentiment.

If there was anything worth getting volatile over, watching men die needlessly might be one of them, so I figure if any situation would qualify, this would be one of them.
 

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Not long after the war in Ukraine started there were videos of some US volunteers saying how it was a trap and not to go, because the Russians appeared to be specifically targeting them for destruction, and how they were being poorly equipped by the Ukrainians and not allowed to leave the country. A few days later, I had a dream in which I saw Putin sitting at a table looking straight at me. He was holding a chicken leg up to his mouth, and was about to eat it.

The message was clear enough at the time, though I didn't have much proof, but evidence now appears to be emerging that the Russians know that many foreign mercenaries cannot handle the fighting in Ukraine, so they are prime targets.

The reason foreign mercenaries are fleeing the battlefield are two-fold.

1. They know they are being targeted, and that the Russians will show them no mercy, and
2. They've never been in a serious artillery war before, one directed by drone surveillance for better accuracy.

Not a weak man's war.

Don't attempt to make sense of what you see in the News Media. Nothing of what you see can be trusted.

Let me back up a bit. You are right. This is a different kind of war. The stakes are high. The main battle ground is public perception and the tactic is control of information. This is called "irregular warfare." The enemy has gained control of all forms of communication, news, entertainment, and social media. The job of the News media is to distract the world, like a cat chasing a laser pointer, from what is actually happening.

In reality, Putin is acting out of self-preservation, but he is not our enemy. The US, under the direction of the Cabal, has established biowarfare laboratories in the Ukraine on the border with Russia. This condition is a direct threat to Russian sovereignty and perhaps a grave existential threat. (One of these labs, located in Wuhan China, developed the Covid-19 bioweapon, which the Cabal unleashed on the United States in order to destroy our economy.) Putin saw what the Cabal did to the US and the rest of the world; that is, the Cabal was not only making bioweapons in laboratories around the world, but the Cabal intends to used these weapons as first strike weapons. In other words, these weapons were not meant to be a deterrent; they were created to be used as soon as possible. The Russian people were facing a countdown, which was about to reach zero hour.

Ukraine per se is not the enemy. Ukraine has been taken over by the Cabal in order to serve the needs and purposes of the Cabal. Putin isn't attacking the Ukraine, he is liberating Ukrainians from the Cabal and destroying the Cabal's ability to wage biological warfare. The Cabal want's to bring the world under one government and one religion. But Satan is using the Cabal to destroy as many human beings as possible. In the mean time, the world is willing to give up national sovereignty in exchange for safety.

The Russians are NOT killing the mercenaries; rather, the Ukrainian militia is killing them. Why? When American mercenaries arrive in Ukraine, they are not given arms, they are not given support of any kind. They are on their own. These men are purposely left defenseless because a dead American on American TV is worth much more to the Ukrainians, than a living soldier, because the Cabal doesn't intend to win. Dead Americans can bring millions if not billions of dollars to Ukraine, which is divided amongst the Cabal members for personal gain. None of that money will ever make its way to the war effort. The Cabal is not trying to win the war; it needs the war to continue so that stupid, gullible Americans will keep sending money to finance the subjugation of the world. American mercenaries were deceived and they paid for their gullibility with their lives.
 
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Don't attempt to make sense of what you see in the News Media. Nothing of what you see can be trusted.

Let me back up a bit. You are right. This is a different kind of war. The stakes are high. The main battle ground is public perception and the tactic is control of information. This is called "irregular warfare." The enemy has gained control of all forms of communication, news, entertainment, and social media. The job of the News media is to distract the world, like a cat chasing a laser pointer, from what is actually happening.

In reality, Putin is acting out of self-preservation, but he is not our enemy. The US, under the direction of the Cabal, has established biowarfare laboratories in the Ukraine on the border with Russia. This condition is a direct threat to Russian sovereignty and perhaps a grave existential threat. (One of these labs, located in Wuhan China, developed the Covid-19 bioweapon, which the Cabal unleashed on the United States in order to destroy our economy.) Putin saw what the Cabal did to the US and the rest of the world; that is, the Cabal was not only making bioweapons in laboratories around the world, but the Cabal intends to used these weapons as first strike weapons. In other words, these weapons were not meant to be a deterrent; they were created to be used as soon as possible. The Russian people were facing a countdown, which was about to reach zero hour.

Ukraine per se is not the enemy. Ukraine has been taken over by the Cabal in order to serve the needs and purposes of the Cabal. Putin isn't attacking the Ukraine, he is liberating Ukrainians from the Cabal and destroying the Cabal's ability to wage biological warfare. The Cabal want's to bring the world under one government and one religion. But Satan is using the Cabal to destroy as many human beings as possible. In the mean time, the world is willing to give up national sovereignty in exchange for safety.

The Russians are NOT killing the mercenaries; rather, the Ukrainian militia is killing them. Why? When American mercenaries arrive in Ukraine, they are not given arms, they are not given support of any kind. They are on their own. These men are purposely left defenseless because a dead American on American TV is worth much more to the Ukrainians, than a living soldier, because the Cabal doesn't intend to win. Dead Americans can bring millions if not billions of dollars to Ukraine, which is divided amongst the Cabal members for personal gain. None of that money will ever make its way to the war effort. The Cabal is not trying to win the war; it needs the war to continue so that stupid, gullible Americans will keep sending money to finance the subjugation of the world. American mercenaries were deceived and they paid for their gullibility with their lives.

Hello C&Z, and good morning.

We've been discussing this subject since the war began and much of what you stated above is a repeat of things I was posting from the beginning, although some of it is somewhat dated now. I'm simply commenting in this thread on where things stand as of late July, and what the war has developed into, which in part relates to a dream a sister of mine posted early on about how drone warfare would play a significant part in the war and a number of other things.

But thanks for the post. In large part we agree.
 

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Ronald, I invite your involvement, but since this is my thread I'm not into members using derogatory names in order to flippantly label people. It's not cool, and it just starts crap.

Post all you want but keep that business out of this thread or I may report you on it, or anyone else who should follow suit.

God bless,
- H

I do not like Marxism, but it is a legitimate political philosophy and he has all teh earmarks of being one. It is a term that tends to be negative in America, but he fits the description.

It can be harxh, but it seems very accurate. Not trying to be insulting, just accurate. Just like if some one defended Allah, I would say they are Muslim.