"A Different Kind Of War..."
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Ronald Nolette
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Well every war issimply watching men die needlessly. One bully wants something that is not his so they attack another one. It is a schoolyard bully writ large!
lightlysalted
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This is what Democracy looks like...
or at least what the United States is funding on behalf of so called Democracy.
Hpy
or at least what the United States is funding on behalf of so called Democracy.
Hpy
Ronald Nolette
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It is hard to peg him. He is definitely against teh West. In many threads Him and I have tangled, He never has any good to say about the westr and tends to defend Russia fiercely.
Personally america is done for. We have gone the way of Rome and rotted from within. But as we are living in the end times- it had to happen.
All nations will fall under the spell of the antichrist except 1/3 of Israel and the gentiles who will not bow and take the mark.
lightlysalted
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A LESSON IN MARXISM
Where Marxist Theory Came From
Facebook and Snapchat weren’t the first ideas to change a society. In fact, they were far from it. Ideas about changing a nation go back to Socrates and Aristotle. However, in the 1800s, you had Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Together, these two realized that many of people’s current struggles occurred due to the unfair treatment they received from those that held the power (owners and CEOs).
In an attempt to make the world a fairer and more perfect place, they drafted a manifesto called ‘The Communist Manifesto’. It was an attempt to explore the problems with capitalism and find a social and political theory to move beyond a capitalist society to one that benefits every member. The main points of Marxism include:
Marxism vs. Communism vs. Socialism
Communism and socialism are both types of governments or theoretical governments born from Marxism. However, they vary in slightly different ways.
Marxism: Communism
At its core, communism opposes capitalism. In an effort to get rid of capitalism, communist governments, in theory, pay workers according to their ability and needs and remove capitalists by having a strong central government own all property publicly. One example of a current communist government is China.
However, much like any theory, communism can be taken to the extreme and become its own form of oppression for workers which goes against the ideals that Marxism envisions. One example is North Korea. While they are a communist country, their own visions and ways of thinking have been added to the theory. Additionally, the government leader takes more of the role of a monarch.
Marxism: Socialism
Much like communism, socialism is a system of politics and economics with roots in Marxist ideals. In socialism, a central government owns all means of wealth, but individuals can still own property. Additionally, unlike the violent uprisings that can arise with communism, socialism typically occurs more organically through reforms and changes with an elected government. While a true socialist society doesn’t exist, a few close runner ups are Norway and Denmark. However, these governments still have capitalist sectors.
Marxist Theory Defined
At its center, Marxism was a theory created by Marx and Engels to create a classless society where workers were appreciated and worked to benefit the common good. While the true theory has never reached fruition, a few governments have tried through communism and socialism.
The Azov Battalion which is now the Ukranian National Army are Neo-Nazi's.
And we, the American People are supply NAZI'S with money and weapons to eliminate what they believe are their Russian counterpart enemies. Even though they live in the same country, they are not the same breed of people.
The pro-russian nationalists which live on the eastern side of Ukraine have been undefire by the western side since 2014 because of their nationality. Ukraine once upon a time was Russia. Ukraine decided to become it's own independent nation. However people that lived on the eastern side of Ukraine were still Russians by birth, by heritage, by nationality.
The Germans invaded Ukraine and began removing people of Russian heritage from their country.
Denying them to speak in their native language, teach in their own schools. Made to submit to an all purely democratic new system.
Western Ukraine since the Maidan in 2014 have been systematically killing the people in the eastern part.
A coup was performed with the help of the US and European nations to remove the rightful and dutiful elected president of Ukraine who had favoritism towards russia than the western nations.
This is all documented by Oliver Stone in His Documentary Ukraine on Fire.
In 2017 just before President Trump took offfice, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Amy Klobochar met with the Azov Battalion, promising them that the US was with them, and the offensive against Russia would soon begin.
Can anyone say Russia Collusion Delusion?
While this is happening Joe Biden as Vice President of The US is conducting prid pro quo with the powers that be, to have the chief prosecuter removed who was investigating into his son Hunter's dealings with an energy company known as Burisma.
Recieving thousands of dollars in kickbacks in which the "Big Guy" Joe Biden would recieve 10%.
Since that time we have sent billions of dollars and weapons to the most corrupt government on earth.
No doubt money laundering in the name of Democracy.
No, we are not the marxists, we are not the nazi's, we are not the white supremists.
Those are they the democrats and republicans are fully funding in this BS proxy war.
The west wants to bring russia down like they brought Iraq down, like they brought Lybia down.
Except in this case it is gas instead of oil as it's main objective.
They won't succeed.
Not because Putin is a good guy, but because the globalists are VERY BAD guys.
I would shift your gaze to China and leave Ukraine alone. It is simply a distraction from other events that are about to rock our world.
hugs
Where Marxist Theory Came From
Facebook and Snapchat weren’t the first ideas to change a society. In fact, they were far from it. Ideas about changing a nation go back to Socrates and Aristotle. However, in the 1800s, you had Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Together, these two realized that many of people’s current struggles occurred due to the unfair treatment they received from those that held the power (owners and CEOs).
In an attempt to make the world a fairer and more perfect place, they drafted a manifesto called ‘The Communist Manifesto’. It was an attempt to explore the problems with capitalism and find a social and political theory to move beyond a capitalist society to one that benefits every member. The main points of Marxism include:
- Capitalism is broken into two classes: workers and capitalists (proletariats and bourgeoisies).
- Those that control the corporations exploit workers and control society.
- Eventually, workers will rise up to make everyone even and get rid of classes.
Marxism vs. Communism vs. Socialism
Communism and socialism are both types of governments or theoretical governments born from Marxism. However, they vary in slightly different ways.
Marxism: Communism
At its core, communism opposes capitalism. In an effort to get rid of capitalism, communist governments, in theory, pay workers according to their ability and needs and remove capitalists by having a strong central government own all property publicly. One example of a current communist government is China.
However, much like any theory, communism can be taken to the extreme and become its own form of oppression for workers which goes against the ideals that Marxism envisions. One example is North Korea. While they are a communist country, their own visions and ways of thinking have been added to the theory. Additionally, the government leader takes more of the role of a monarch.
Marxism: Socialism
Much like communism, socialism is a system of politics and economics with roots in Marxist ideals. In socialism, a central government owns all means of wealth, but individuals can still own property. Additionally, unlike the violent uprisings that can arise with communism, socialism typically occurs more organically through reforms and changes with an elected government. While a true socialist society doesn’t exist, a few close runner ups are Norway and Denmark. However, these governments still have capitalist sectors.
Marxist Theory Defined
At its center, Marxism was a theory created by Marx and Engels to create a classless society where workers were appreciated and worked to benefit the common good. While the true theory has never reached fruition, a few governments have tried through communism and socialism.
The Azov Battalion which is now the Ukranian National Army are Neo-Nazi's.
And we, the American People are supply NAZI'S with money and weapons to eliminate what they believe are their Russian counterpart enemies. Even though they live in the same country, they are not the same breed of people.
The pro-russian nationalists which live on the eastern side of Ukraine have been undefire by the western side since 2014 because of their nationality. Ukraine once upon a time was Russia. Ukraine decided to become it's own independent nation. However people that lived on the eastern side of Ukraine were still Russians by birth, by heritage, by nationality.
The Germans invaded Ukraine and began removing people of Russian heritage from their country.
Denying them to speak in their native language, teach in their own schools. Made to submit to an all purely democratic new system.
Western Ukraine since the Maidan in 2014 have been systematically killing the people in the eastern part.
A coup was performed with the help of the US and European nations to remove the rightful and dutiful elected president of Ukraine who had favoritism towards russia than the western nations.
This is all documented by Oliver Stone in His Documentary Ukraine on Fire.
In 2017 just before President Trump took offfice, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Amy Klobochar met with the Azov Battalion, promising them that the US was with them, and the offensive against Russia would soon begin.
Can anyone say Russia Collusion Delusion?
While this is happening Joe Biden as Vice President of The US is conducting prid pro quo with the powers that be, to have the chief prosecuter removed who was investigating into his son Hunter's dealings with an energy company known as Burisma.
Recieving thousands of dollars in kickbacks in which the "Big Guy" Joe Biden would recieve 10%.
Since that time we have sent billions of dollars and weapons to the most corrupt government on earth.
No doubt money laundering in the name of Democracy.
No, we are not the marxists, we are not the nazi's, we are not the white supremists.
Those are they the democrats and republicans are fully funding in this BS proxy war.
The west wants to bring russia down like they brought Iraq down, like they brought Lybia down.
Except in this case it is gas instead of oil as it's main objective.
They won't succeed.
Not because Putin is a good guy, but because the globalists are VERY BAD guys.
I would shift your gaze to China and leave Ukraine alone. It is simply a distraction from other events that are about to rock our world.
hugs
Ronald Nolette
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The Azov brigade are boy scouts compared to Putins Wagner group!
Ukraine was granted independence in 1991, along with other nations as time passed like Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia, they also were part of teh Soviet Union! Funny how Putin says nothing about them. Putin wants the Donbas and Luhansk regions because of money. Make no mistake this is not a rescue mission Putin is on.
Pathfinder7
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Good point/info.
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I was in Russia..& Estonia, Latvia.
- Short trip..years ago.
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Interesting to note:
Many people (60% & more) in Russia miss..USSR days/era.
*Before the Russia-Ukraine War...
lightlysalted
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I dont respond to that guy, he has been on my ignore list. You guys need to figure it out, he is a spoiler. Not worthy to be bothered with.
That one is also a hypocrite, for here he accuses me of being a Marxist and in other threads he accuses others of accusing him of things, yet then he himself makes same or worse accusations.
And that is the last I'll say in reference to that guy, he is not worth my time.
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How much money has the U.S. sent to Ukraine?
The U.S. has sent more than $54 billion to Ukraine since the war against Russia started, according to The New York Times. The aid package can be broken down into multiple types of aid.
This guy:
The U.S. has sent more than $54 billion to Ukraine since the war against Russia started, according to The New York Times. The aid package can be broken down into multiple types of aid.
- Weapons and other supplies: $12.5 billion
- Economic support: $9.4 billion
- U.S. military deployments and intelligence: $9 billion
- Food assistance, healthcare, and other aid: $7 billion
- Military and security assistance: $6 billion
- Grants and loans for military supplies: $4.7 billion
- Migration and refugee assistance: $1.8 billion
- Other foreign aid: $1.5 billion
- Assistance for Europe, Eurasia, and Central Aisa: $1.1 billion
- Administration for Children and Families: $0.9 billion
- Diplomatic programs and other: $0.5 billion
- Enforcing sanctions: $0.3 billion
This guy:
Zehellenski is a full on Sodomite ! Hey not to mention so is Joe Biden and all his mob support Sodomites.
The Satanist are full on attacking all, it's warfare that is being waged by them over everyone and this has been going on for years.
Not to mention when I was in business I had a radar scope lets say, that had to be on the lookout for everything that could be seen as toxic to or in my business, form the Governments local council and not to mention anyone who I contracted to or subcontracted to, all such people are not your friend at all, one must remember in fact. but you have every dirty lowlife cunning tricks or games tossed at you day in day out, trying to have their way with you, so I see the same games that are at play on a bigger scale with the goings on in the world and one could try and identify who are what such are truly all about ?
There are agendas at play ? That must be understood, some are deadly serious objectives and one should take note ! If one has made claims of crying that the world has to reduce population or else ? or peddling climate change with an agenda, one should look into such seriously and what the Game truly is that is being played. Not to mention stupid Wars that are played out !
So we have an organisation that works, so as to lead people astray in fact and they can make even the Devil himself look like the good one.
I contracted for many organisations company's in the building industry and they are creeps, to out right creeps con-artist 24/7 they have no regard for anyone truly ! It's all a system that relies on lies as it's main objective to survive. if they told only the truth they would fail ! the company could not survive without lies and a whole bag or tricks. nothing but dribble is fed out 24/7 and one can not call them out on such because they will not listen anyway and just palm you off, they are masters in such art form. Just like we see with Governments !
The end Game is that Governments want to dominate over you and work to control you and undermine you and use you regardless, be it left or right wing, but for a conservative minority within mainly the right but also some what the left, so such is more central and not far left or right at all, you do not see such as Conservatives being out that far, but the far left and far right hate the Conservatives totally and they play out that Conservatives are the problem !
Conservatives have their feet solid on the ground, but the rest are off with the pixies and could believe anything it it's dressed up to dazzle them and they will go for it hook line and sinker ! swallow all of the Gay BS totally full on and you name it, such is the same with anything, if it's painted to appeal to them, they will take the bate ! Just like with Hitler such was all tailored for them, as was the creation of Stalin, people idolised such totally evil people, why because they idolised them ! And idolising a person is a grave Sin in fact.
So what do we see nowadays people idolising sports players and you name it ? They are peddling such full on nowadays ! Look at Zelenski he has been dubbed a hero ! by the MSM and morons, no he is a total idiot who brought War on Ukraine. Did he bring peace and a greatness on Ukraine, so how can he be a Hero !
Now to Biden what has he done for the USA ? what has he and Co brought ?
lightlysalted
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There are a lot of people that really don't want to believe that true evil exists.
It's much easier to brush it off as the news media convinces them that it's all alie, just a conspiracy theory, go back to sleep, here is another stimulus check, we'll take care of you, nothing will hurt you.
All the while they are planning your demise right under your nose.
If people do not have an inherit criminal mind, it is nearly impossible to get ones mind around how someone can be so criminal.
This is disturbing and I'm sorry I'm bringing it up, but it is one example I will make to explain my point.
How many people in this forum could take 3 or 4 beagles, cut their throats so they can't whimper, tie them in cages and release biting flies on their faces until they die?
I don't suppose many could, or even phathom, doing such a thing. And yet it happens in labratories by very cruel "scientists", for "funding and research" . To what end? Just to see how long they would live getting their faces chewed off?
It's beyond our capacity to believe that people can be so cruel.
Not to mention releasing plagues and pathogens on 3rd world countries as experiments, because they are out of the minds of more "civilized" countries. Children being used as sex objects, even now experimenting with puberty blockers and having their genetilia removed for their own deviant purposes.
This is disturbing and extremely hard to watch.
But this same person is the one telling parents to inject their babies with experimental drugs.
Which are now being found to cause brain swellings in small children.
And people wonder why they said NO to the forced mandates.
If you don't have the heart or the stomach to watch, I truly understand.
But the facts are out there. And people need to know that evil is real.
Hugs
CadyandZoe
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Thanks for the reply. I can't anything to what you are saying. I don't think I could know where things stand as of today since I am firmly convinced that all information coming out of the country is bogus. I have heard a lot of commentators and those claiming to know what is going on. I suspect that many of these are making assumptions that may or not be true. Consider the following line of thinking.
Assumption: Putin wants to reconstitute the Soviet union; therefore he wants control over the entire country of Ukraine.
Observation: The Russian army doesn't seem to be advancing as fast as it should.
Conclusion: Russia is weak. Putin acted prematurely. He doesn't have the resources to finish. The sanctions are working.
I don't believe this. I wouldn't make the above assumption. In fact, my overall point is this. I would caution against making any assumptions upfront.
Are the Russians using drones? I don't know. If I were to guess, I would remain skeptical. I doubt it. Why? I suspect that Putin favors low tech, preferring a mechanized force with tanks and artillery rather than drones. If drones are flying over Ukraine, I would suspect CIA involvement.
Ronald Nolette
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It seems to be a strange quirk, but the Russian peoples seem to love to be under powerful authority and do not handle freedoms well.
Ronald Nolette
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For what? Him arming the donbas to fight Ukraine? Yes Ukraine had some very corrupt leaders-just like Russia. It is not justice but power that caused Putin to illegally invade Ukraine now and in 2014 whe he stole Crimea from them.
lightlysalted
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I believe Crimea had a democratic vote whether they wanted to remain with Russia or separate with Ukraine.
The vote leaned heavily towards russia, in which the Ukrainian army came in and shut off the water by destroying their dam and attacking people.
So Putin, believing that democratic decisions are made by the people, went in to support the peoples decision.
But the west who claim everything democracy, knows nothing at all about real democracy. They are the authoritarians and tyrants.
History is important.
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Ronald Nolette
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Oh you mean the show vote after Russia stole it from Ukraine? Like Russia never rigs elections! Putin didn't go in to support the decision, but to invade and kill!
So according to you if California voted to return to Mexico and Mexico invaded California- you would be okay with that?
lightlysalted
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So if California voted to secede from the Union and return to Mexico, the only reason why Mexico would need to invade California is if the rest of the Union said that California's secession was illegal, even after having an overwhelming vote of the majority of the people who live in California.
Which is what happened in Crimea. The people voted to secede from Ukraine, the EU and the US said it was illegal.
What business it was of the EU and the US, one can only wonder. Perhaps something to do with Sea Ports and Trade.
Did you watch the video?
No really, did you?
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