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Continuing from post #18.

Matthew, you have continued on without acknowledging that your posts on the birth of Christ have been fanciful and misleading based on fallacies which bears no resemblance to what Scripture recounts.

If your error in this part is obvious to any who takes the time to study the Biblical account, then why would they take the time to consider anything else that you post. Your scholarship is sadly lacking and is based on your opinion that what you post must be right because of the preterist perspective and errors.

A tranducer is what you are.
 
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@Jay Ross,

Why do you insist to trouble me by coming in to my thread, and posting what you have? It is fine if my scholarship lacks, there is nothing wrong with what has been shared here as it something I enjoy to do. Are you against me sharing the Bible here as I desire to do? It is/Is it hurting other people some how?

Please let me know,
Thank you.

Yes, what you are teaching is not biblical, but the understanding of man and what you are posting is hurting the understanding of other people. Your preterist theology is also misleading and not biblical. It is the ravings of people who cannot get their laughing matter around what the Bible presents. Yes you are telling people to check out if what you post is true and that they should have a relationship with God, but the gist of what you present as "biblical facts" is not kosher, to say the lest.

You are in a cult and you will be judged on the fruit that you produce in your attempt to bring into being God's everlasting kingdom.
 
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continued from post number #20

Having looked at John the Baptist having been baptizing all those who had come to him from Jerusalem, Judea, and all the region of the Jordan. Which they were confessing their sins to him, and he was baptizing them for the remission of their sins in showing their turning towards God.

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

John while he was baptizing seen many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, "Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?"

John knew the scriptures, and he knew about the wrath that was going to come. The Pharisees were called a Brood of vipers, being charged by John. (see Matthew 12:34; Matthew 23:33) That they were fleeing the earth that was to come.

8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance,

Upon calling them a brood of vipers, fleeing the coming wrath, should bear fruits worthy of repentance.​

9 and do not think to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.

The coming kingdom would be accompanied by a blessing for God's people and by punishment for the unrepentant. The Pharisees and Sadducees had no intention of confessing their sins because they presumed that decent from Abraham guaranteed that they would escape God's wrath. This belief was reflected in the Mishnah, which stated "All Israel will have a share in the world to come."

John statement about raising up children to Abraham from these stones involves a wordplay in Hebrew. The word child (ben) sounds similar to the word stone (even). A stone has no intrinsic value, yet Almighty God can transform worthless rock into a person and include him in his covenant people if he chooses (Isaiah 51:1-2).

Consequently, descent from Abraham gave the Jews no ground for boasting. John's warning foreshadows the incorporation of believing Gentiles into the people of God.​

10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

The ax that is now laid to the root of the trees is talking about the cutting down of Israel stated by John. Therefore every tree which does which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

Meaning God will punish those who do not bear good fruit, and that they would be thrown into the fire for those in this day who would fail to produce Fruits worthy of repentance." In the teachings of John and Jesus fruit represents good works that result from a miraculous inner transformation (Matthew 7:15-20; 12:33; 13:23). Later, the cursing of the fig tree and the parable of the wicked tenants illustrated the penalty (Matthew 21:18-22;33-43)

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Yes, what you are teaching is not biblical, but the understanding of man and what you are posting is hurting the understanding of other people. Your preterist theology is also misleading and not biblical. It is the ravings of people who cannot get their laughing matter around what the Bible presents. Yes you are telling people to check out if what you post is true and that they should have a relationship with God, but the gist of what you present as "biblical facts" is not kosher, to say the lest.

You are in a cult and you will be judged on the fruit that you produce in your attempt to bring into being God's everlasting kingdom.
Agree here is a list of the heresies he gets from shawm mcgready

modalism
preterism
universalism
adoptionism
gnosticism
subjectivism
spirit Resurrection, not bodily
 

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Continued from post number #23

Matthew 3:11 “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

The Apostle Peter said this about John in Acts 10:34-37
Acts 10:34-37
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34 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. 36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all. 37 You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached—

Paul proclaims in Acts 13:23-25
Acts 13:23-25
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23 “From this man’s descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised. 24 Before the coming of Jesus, John preached repentance and baptism to all the people of Israel. 25 As John was completing his work, he said: ‘Who do you suppose I am? I am not the one you are looking for. But there is one coming after me whose sandals I am not worthy to untie.’

Paul also proclaims in Acts 19:1-4
Acts 19:1-4
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Paul in Ephesus
19 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples 2 and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spiritwhen you believed?”

They answered, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.”

3 So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?”

“John’s baptism,” they replied.

4 Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”

It is interesting to note what these two (Peter, and Paul) said about John, and also about God, and the Lord Jesus Christ here.

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A cult in Australia.


 
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Continued from post #25

Mat 3:11 I indeed immerse you in water for conversion, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, of whom I am not worthy to carry the sandals, He will immerse you in the Holy Spirit and fire,


So before having shared that Peter, and Paul talked about John who preached the baptism of repentance. John here shows his admiration for the coming messiah, he states “He who is coming after me is mightier than I”,


Showing humbleness and respect to the coming messiah as seeing his (Johns) own position lower than that of the one whom was to come, who he deemed he was not even worthy to loosing the Sandel strap, or carrying the sandals that Jesus/Yeshua had worn.


John explicitly makes it clear that He (meaning Jesus) would baptism a individual with the Holy Spirit and fire,


Of course we see Jesus later on talking to his disciples that He would in fact be sending the comforter once he had went away, which was after his death, burial, and resurrection ascending into the clouds in the Bible book noted as “Acts of the Apostles” in the very first chapter. (See John 14:16; Acts 1:9-12)


Now remember as we had seen that John had come baptizing to those around the Judea area - around the Land of Israel, and the coming of the messiah would also initiate the Great and Dreadful day of the Lord, which also showed John having come to prepare the way for the Lord as well. (See Malachi 3:1-6; Malachi 4:5)


This message John was preaching, also mentioned to the Pharisees and Sadducees at that time he said explicitly Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? (See Matthew 3:7)


The Fire here - could be a reference to the Lake of Fire; but could also refer to the fire the burns our the darkness with-in us when God moves into our lives by the Holy Spirit in which light starts to come about with-in our hearts from the fire that is from God - as God is all consuming fire (who is able to consume darkness as no drop of Darkness is with-in Him). (See Hebrews 12:29; 1 John 1:5)​



Mat 3:12 whose fan [is] in His hand, and He will thoroughly cleanse His floor, and will gather His wheat into the storehouse, but He will burn the chaff with unquenchable fire.”


John goes on to explain who fan [is] in His hand, and He will thoroughly cleanse His floor and will gather His wheat (the bride) into the storehouse, but He will burn the chaff with unquenchable fire (the unbelievers in his day in age - perhaps now today? If people have their part in their lake of fire). (See Revelation 21:8)


This would also relate back again to the coming day of the wrath of God which would I personally believe would fall on the nation of Israel whom would kill the Messiah. (You may differ.) See Also for Fan [Isaiah 41:16; Jeremiah 4:11; Jeremiah 15:7; Jeremiah 51:2; Luke 3:17] see also for Throughly [Malachi 3:2-3; Malachi 4:1, John 15:2]. See also gather [Matthew 13:30; Matthew 13:43; Amos 9:9] See also for With [Isiah 1:31; Isaiah 66:24; Jeremiah 7:20; Jeremiah 17:27; Ezekiel 20:47-48; Mark 9:43-48] Which most of the time, Hell is referred to by Jesus in some scriptures but He is talking also about those who would lose their life being thrown into the Valley of Ghenna, which now today no longer burns.​


Mat 3:13 Then Jesus comes from Galilee to John at the Jordan, to be immersed by him,


Then Jesus had come from Galilee, to John whom was at the Jordan River, to be baptized by John.​



Mat 3:14 but John was forbidding Him, saying, “I have need to be immersed by You—and You come to me?”


John was at first forbidding Jesus to be baptized by him; John knew of Jesus but not by his kindred, and John here is refusing to administer the ordinance to Him, and decided against it, as it may have made Jesus seem not to be as important as John had made him out to be (which he said He is mightier than I).


Also having said “I have need to be immersed by you - to obtain the spirit) - and you come to me?”​


Mat 3:15 But Jesus answering said to him, “Permit [it] now, for thus it is fitting to us to fulfill all righteousness,” then he permits Him.


However Jesus knew that he needed this, not just because of the water, but to be baptized by the Holy Spirit (which Jesus had learned from His Father). Jesus answered to query to John, saying Permit this to be so, for thus it is fitting to us to fulfill all righteousness,” then John permits Him.​


Philippians 2:7-8 (LSV)

7 but emptied Himself, having taken the form of a servant, having been made in the likeness of men,

8 and having been found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself, having become obedient to death—even death of a cross,


We can see here, wrote by Paul to the Philippians explaining about Jesus. He emptied Himself, having taken the form of a servant, having been made in the likeness of men, and having been found in appearance as of a man, He humbled Himself, having become obedient (to the Father) to death (of self) — even death of a cross (the death for all people in accordance to the will of the Father.​


Hebrews 7:26 (LSV)

26 For also such a chief priest was fitting for us—holy, innocent, undefiled, separate from the sinners, and having become higher than the heavens


The unknown writer of hebrews writing to an Jewish Audience explained: For also such a chief priest was fitting for us — holy, innocent, undefiled, separate from the sinner, and having become higher than the heavens (the skies higher than all of those who lived on earth, considering Jesus had come down from heaven?)​


1 Peter 2:21-24 (LSV)

21 for to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving to you an example, that you may follow His steps,

22 who did not commit sin, nor was guile found in His mouth,

23 who being reviled—was not reviling again, suffering—was not threatening, and was committing Himself to Him who is judging righteously,

24 who Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, that having died to sins, we may live to righteousness; by whose stripes you were healed,



The Apostle Peter wrote to his audience saying that Christ suffered for them, leaving them an example, that they may follow His steps (how important to note that we too do the same), following after Jesus (the only given righteousness and glory of God on believers behalf) who did not commit sin, nor was guile found in His mouth (he never lied), who being reviled (by the Pharisees and scribes whom envied him), was not reviling (towards them; even from the truths spoken about the Wrath to come upon them) - suffering, (was not threatening) and was committing Himself to (God) the Father who is judging righteously, who Himself (Jesus) bore our sins in His boy on the tree, that having died to sins, we may live to righteousness; by whose stripes you were healed.​
 

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Continued from post #27

Mat 3:16
And having been immersed, Jesus immediately went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming on Him,


Because of everything mentioned was it right for righteousness to be fulfilled in Christ completely. And having been immersed, Jesus immediately went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming on Him.​


Acts 7:56 (LSV)

56 and he said, “Behold, I see the heavens having been opened, and the Son of Man standing on the right hand of God.”



Isaiah 11:2 (LSV)

2 The Spirit of YHWH has rested on Him, || The Spirit of wisdom and understanding, || The Spirit of counsel and might, || The Spirit of knowledge and fear of YHWH.


Isaiah 42:1 (LSV)

1 Behold, My servant, I take hold on Him, || My Chosen One—My soul has accepted, I have put My Spirit on Him, || He brings forth judgment to nations.


Isaiah 59:21 (LSV)

21 “And I—this [is] My covenant with them,” said YHWH, “My Spirit that [is] on you, || And My words that I have put in your mouth, || Do not depart from your mouth, || And from the mouth of your seed, || And from the mouth of your seed’s seed,” said YHWH, “From now on, even for all time!”


Isaiah 61:1 (LSV)

1 “[The] Spirit of Lord YHWH [is] on Me, || Because YHWH anointed Me || To proclaim tidings to the humble, || He sent Me to bind the broken of heart, || To proclaim liberty to the captives, || And an opening of bands to [those] bound.


Colossians 1:18-19 (LSV)

18 And He is the head of the body—the Assembly—who is a beginning, a firstborn out of the dead, that He might become first in all [things] Himself,

19 because all the fullness was pleased to dwell in Him,



As promised, the Spirit of God came and rested upon the Son of God, the Son of Man named Yeshua.



Mat 3:17 and behold, a voice out of the heavens, saying, “This is My Son, the Beloved, in whom I delighted.”



After the heavens were opened, behold a voice out of the heavens, saying “This is My Son, the Beloved, in whom I delighted.”


Interesting notes from John Gill:


Matthew 3:17

And lo, a voice from heaven, saying,.... At the same time the heavens were opened, and the Spirit of God descended as a dove, and lighted on Christ, and whilst it abode upon him, an extraordinary voice was heard; hence the note of attention and admiration, "lo", is prefixed unto it, as before, to the opening of the heavens; being what was unusual and surprising; and as denoting something to be expressed of great moment and importance. The Jews, in order to render this circumstance less considerable, and to have it believed, that these voices from heaven heard in the time of Jesus, and in relation to him were common things, have invented a great many stories concerning בת קול משמים, "the voice", or "the daughter of the voice from heaven"; which they pretend came in the room of prophecy: their (t) words are,

"after the death of the latter prophets, Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi, the holy Spirit departed from Israel, and thenceforwards they used "Bath Kol", the "voice". One time they were sitting in the chamber of the house of Guria in Jericho, and there came to them בת קיל משמים, "the voice from heaven", (saying;) there is one here, who is fit to have the Shekinah (or divine majesty) abide on him, as Moses our master; but because his generation was not worthy, therefore the wise men set their eyes on Hillell, the elder; and when he died, they said concerning him, this was a holy man, a meek man, a disciple of Ezra. Again, another time they were sitting in a chamber in Jabneh, and there came to them "the voice from heaven", (saying;) there is one here, who is fit to have the Shekinah dwell on him; but because his generation was not worthy, therefore the wise men set their eyes on Samuel the little.''

I have cited this passage at large, partly because, according to them, it fixes the date and use of "the voice"; and partly, because it affords instances of it, wherefore more need not be mentioned; for, it would be endless to repeat the several things spoken by it; such as encouraging Herod to rebel, and seize his master's kingdom (u); forbidding Ben Uzziel to go on with his paraphrase on the Hagiographa, or holy books, when he had finished his Targum on the prophets (w); declaring the words of Hillell and Shammai to be the words of the living God (x); signifying the conception, birth, and death of (y) persons, and the like; all which seem to be mere fiction and imagination, diabolical delusions, or satanical imitations of this voice, that was now heard, in order to lessen the credit of it. But, to proceed; this extraordinary voice from heaven, which was formed in articulate sounds for the sake of John; and, according to the other Evangelists, was directed to Christ, Mar 1:11 expressed the following words, "this is my beloved Son". "This" person, who had been baptized in water, on whom the holy Spirit now rested, is no other than the Son of God in human nature; which he assumed, in order to be obedient to this, and the whole of his Father's will: he is his own proper "son", not by creation, as angels, and men; nor by adoption, as saints; nor by office, as magistrates; but in such a way of filiation as no other is: he is the natural, essential, and only begotten Son of God; his beloved Son, whom the Father loved from everlasting, as his own Son; the image of himself, of the same nature with him, and possessed of the same perfections; whom he loved, and continued to love in time, though clothed with human nature, and the infirmities of it; appearing in the likeness of sinful flesh; being in his state of humiliation, he loved him through it, and all sorrows and sufferings that attended it. Christ always was, and ever will be considered, both in his person as the Son of God, and in his office as mediator, the object of his love and delight; wherefore he adds,

in whom I am well pleased. Jehovah the Father took infinite delight and pleasure in him as his own Son, who lay in his bosom before all worlds; and was well pleased with him in his office relation, and capacity: he was both well pleased in him as his Son, and delighted in him as his servant, Isa 42:1 he was pleased with his assumption of human nature; with his whole obedience to the law; and with his bearing the penalty and curse of it, in the room and stead of his people: he was well pleased with and for his righteousness, sacrifice and atonement; whereby his law was fulfilled, and his justice satisfied. God is not only well pleased in, and with his Son, but with all his people, as considered in him; in him he loves them, takes delight in them, is pacified towards them, and graciously accepts of them. It would be almost unpardonable, not to take notice of the testimony here given to the doctrine of the Trinity; since a voice was heard from the "father" in heaven, bearing witness to "the Son" in human nature on earth, on whom "the Spirit" had descended and now abode. The ancients looked upon this as so clear and full a proof of this truth, that they were wont to say; Go to Jordan, and there learn the doctrine of the Trinity. Add to all this, that since this declaration was immediately upon the baptism of Christ, it shows that his Father highly approved of, and was well pleased with his submission to that ordinance; and which should be an encouraging motive to all believers to follow him in it.

(t) T. Bab. Sanhedrim, fol. 11. 1. Sota, fol. 48. 2. Yoma. fol. 9. 2. (u) T. Bab. Bava Bathra, fol. 3. 2. (w) Megilla, fol. 3. 1. (x) T. Hieros. Beracot, fol. 3. 2. (y) T. Bab. Sanhedrim, fol. 22. 1. T. Hieros. Sabbat. fol. 8. 3.
 

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A cult in Australia.



Matthew, you are right that this is a cult that was established in Australia as well as in eight other countries from the USA's initial group. The video clearly shows us and tells us this fact.

You also are a member of a cult participating in a cultic environment where the truth is man's truth and not always God's truth.

Your understanding of Matt. 24:34 and the meaning of "genea," has been perverted to have a short time span whereas in the context of what was being presented in the Mt Oliver discourse, it has the meaning of an "age" with a duration of around 1,000+ years. The Book of Revelation debunks the short time frame that is being given to "genea" and shows that your preterist views are not biblical.

The "age" being presented in this section is the "age of the harvesting of souls," during the last age before the final judgement.

Because of your fabricated understanding you have generated theology which has no basis from the Bible or can even be found in the Bible.

Like in the video, you have been brained washed to accept a false hope.

Shalom
 
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Cult stands of Christian Ultra Libertarians for Truth.

Therefore it’s not a cult, it’s a play on words.

There are other people out there who believe that Jesus returned in 70Ad and that the devil has been defeated and can understand that there is liberty in Christ Jesus. And at the end of life all that is going to matter is did you have faith in the Lord Jesus and dying with him, being buried with him, and raising again with him into newness of life by and through the Holy Spirit, do you have hope in the eternal aspect of life of getting to go and live with God, and did you have love for God and love for others.

Maybe you disagree with this premise; but I don’t know your total outlook, just someone who constantly tells me that “I am wrong.”

I love you either way it goes because that is what we are to do, @Jay Ross
 

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Agree here is a list of the heresies he gets from shawm mcgready

modalism
preterism
universalism
adoptionism
gnosticism
subjectivism
spirit Resurrection, not bodily

the lists of heresies taught by Shawn



modalism
preterism
universalism
adoptionism
gnosticism
subjectivism
spirit Resurrection, not bodily

Hope this helps !!!
 

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Shawn McCraney on Preterism and Christianity


Anyone curious to learn about Shawn and his beliefs, there is this 1 hour and half video talking with a person named Elliott Saxton. You have to view it on YouTube. Just if you decide to leave a comment my only advice is to please be respectful.

All of us are called to love God and others.

If you are someone who just wants to confirm your own way of thinking that is okay just let’s try to be respectful to one another everyone has their own life to live and to be negative or say someone is not a Christian because they have a differing view is not being loving at all.

God bless.
 
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