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Who is the "royal priesthood" via NT scripture, found here?...

Buy ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.



A...the Pope of Rome.

B...The Cardinals of Rome.

C....Everyone that has obeyed Acts 2:38.

Pick one.
WHO was the letter written too . a hint , THE CHURCH the BELIEVERS . AND THEY BOTH DID and TAUGHT TO DO
all THINGS that JESUS had said to do . Men have decieved the masses and its time and i mean high time
folks get pointed back to The bible and the GOD and CHRIST of said bible . MANY are not gonna make it .
That brings me no joy to say that , but tis true . MANY are not gonna make it for many WILL NOT and have NOT SUBMITTED UNTO GOD .
They preach another gospel they preach another jesus and it cannot save them . WE must be as our LORD taught the first men to be
He who believes and is baptized shall be saved but he who believeth not shall be condemned . IF folks do not hold the true faith firm to the end
IF they will not teach others to OBSERVE ALL THINGS JESUS Commanded they have decieved themselves .
And i have much sorrow for many , sorrow upon sorrow for many will not come ye out from amongst the contradictory traditions of men .
THEY will NOT learn CHRIST for themselves . THEY WILL NOT learn the scrips . Rather they sit under men who feed them and have fed
them whatever tickled their ears .
 

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Yes, and their sole mission is to stamp out Acts 2:38.

So are her fellow protestant brethren.

They need to create a hierarchy over the saints to accomplish this.
DID the early church baptize . YES .
DID peter even have the household of cornelious baptized , EVEN AFTER they had recieved the HOLY GHOST . YES .
THEN IT MEANS WE DO TOO . I am but a simple man . I SAY IF JESUS taught it DO IT
if the apostels in that bible taught and did it , DO IT . KEEP the pattern delivered us from Christ and the apostels FIRM TO THE END
or prepare to hear i never knew you . IF JESUS SAID DO . WE DO , And anything contrary to the pattern set before us
WE DO NOT DO . Now how simple is that .
HOW come folks just cant love and embrace THE LORD , HIS TEACHINGS , HIS PATTERN . THE APOSTELS DID
and they taught it to THE churches . SO HOW COME FOLKS Keep trying to find ways around this pattern .
WE are in a massive fallling away now . Its been bad , but its got much worse and keeps getting worse and faster too .
POINT TO CHRIST and go out faithful to HIM to the last and final breath . HEED NO man who dares to teach contrary to what CHRIST
and the apostels TAUGHT .
 

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DID the early church baptize . YES .
DID peter even have the household of cornelious baptized , EVEN AFTER they had recieved the HOLY GHOST . YES .
THEN IT MEANS WE DO TOO . I am but a simple man . I SAY IF JESUS taught it DO IT
if the apostels in that bible taught and did it , DO IT . KEEP the pattern delivered us from Christ and the apostels FIRM TO THE END
or prepare to hear i never knew you . IF JESUS SAID DO . WE DO , And anything contrary to the pattern set before us
WE DO NOT DO . Now how simple is that .
HOW come folks just cant love and embrace THE LORD , HIS TEACHINGS , HIS PATTERN . THE APOSTELS DID
and they taught it to THE churches . SO HOW COME FOLKS Keep trying to find ways around this pattern .
WE are in a massive fallling away now . Its been bad , but its got much worse and keeps getting worse and faster too .
POINT TO CHRIST and go out faithful to HIM to the last and final breath . HEED NO man who dares to teach contrary to what CHRIST
and the apostels TAUGHT .

On the subject of baptism, if Catholics are saved by infant baptism and receive the Holy Spirit through another ritual when children, then why are their churches unfortunately so DEAD? No Spirit, no life. Their baptisms and confirmations are not doing the job they claim. They are not imparting salvation or the Holy Spirit. Worse than dead, those churches are spiritually like black holes that swallow up any life that might come along....and I say that with sadness. Many protestant churches are that way too. I asked the Lord one day, what is it about so many churches that they seem to put any life to death? The Lord answered me with a single word (as He sometimes does)....."Artificial". In other words man-made. Except the LORD build the house they labour in vain.

Yes, they keep going around the pattern of scripture in subtle ways. Such a thin fine line sometimes between flesh and spirit.

2Co 11:2-4

For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.


Good for us to examine the serpent in the garden and the subtlety in what he said and how he operated.

Wouldn’t be surprising if some Catholic apologists we run into are ‘professionals’ sent in by the RCC.
 
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WHO was the letter written too . a hint , THE CHURCH the BELIEVERS . AND THEY BOTH DID and TAUGHT TO DO
all THINGS that JESUS had said to do . Men have decieved the masses and its time and i mean high time
folks get pointed back to The bible and the GOD and CHRIST of said bible . MANY are not gonna make it .
That brings me no joy to say that , but tis true . MANY are not gonna make it for many WILL NOT and have NOT SUBMITTED UNTO GOD .
They preach another gospel they preach another jesus and it cannot save them . WE must be as our LORD taught the first men to be
He who believes and is baptized shall be saved but he who believeth not shall be condemned . IF folks do not hold the true faith firm to the end
IF they will not teach others to OBSERVE ALL THINGS JESUS Commanded they have decieved themselves .
And i have much sorrow for many , sorrow upon sorrow for many will not come ye out from amongst the contradictory traditions of men .
THEY will NOT learn CHRIST for themselves . THEY WILL NOT learn the scrips . Rather they sit under men who feed them and have fed
them whatever tickled their ears .
Yes, it is mind numbing to observe people that claim to be Christians that prefer mass commentary and tradition over the Bible.

They have absolutely no fear of God whatsoever.
 

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DID the early church baptize . YES .
DID peter even have the household of cornelious baptized , EVEN AFTER they had recieved the HOLY GHOST . YES .
THEN IT MEANS WE DO TOO . I am but a simple man . I SAY IF JESUS taught it DO IT
if the apostels in that bible taught and did it , DO IT . KEEP the pattern delivered us from Christ and the apostels FIRM TO THE END
or prepare to hear i never knew you . IF JESUS SAID DO . WE DO , And anything contrary to the pattern set before us
WE DO NOT DO . Now how simple is that .
HOW come folks just cant love and embrace THE LORD , HIS TEACHINGS , HIS PATTERN . THE APOSTELS DID
and they taught it to THE churches . SO HOW COME FOLKS Keep trying to find ways around this pattern .
WE are in a massive fallling away now . Its been bad , but its got much worse and keeps getting worse and faster too .
POINT TO CHRIST and go out faithful to HIM to the last and final breath . HEED NO man who dares to teach contrary to what CHRIST
and the apostels TAUGHT .
The devil will not let them obey Acts 2:38.
 

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Is the Catholic church now trying to take credit for God-breathed letters and manuscripts written by faithful men of God under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit? Because that's the only reason we read them....because they are God's word, regardless of who decided to collect them together in one big book. We're not following a "Catholic canon", we're only following writings inspired by God and to Him alone belongs the glory.

I'm curious as to whether the Catholic church is in possession of more letters written by the apostles and other (very) early Christian writings that they chose not to include in the canon?
The Church has never taken "credit" for the Scriptures - they were authored by God.
And the Catholic men who wrote the New Testament gave all the glory to HIM.

And make NO mistake - the ONLY reason you know they it is the Word of God is because Cathlic Church told you so
Like it or not - you DO adhere to the Cathollic Tradition of the NT Canon of Scripture.

Whatever Books and Letters were chosen to be in the Canon was decided by the Catholic Church unfer the guidance of the Holy Spirit (John 16:12-15).
This is an inescapable fact.

So MY question to all of the Catholic-haters is:
WHY do YOU believe it?
 

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Who is the "royal priesthood" via NT scripture, found here?...

Buy ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

A...the Pope of Rome.
B...The Cardinals of Rome.
C....Everyone that has obeyed Acts 2:38.
Pick one.
The Royal Priesthood includes ALL of us who belong to Christ.

The Ministerial Pruesthood does NOT (James 5:14-15, Rom 15:15-16, 2 Cor. 5:18-20, 2 Cor. 2:10).

This isn't Rocket Scince, Einstein.
 

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The Royal Priesthood includes ALL of us who belong to Christ.

The Ministerial Pruesthood does NOT (James 5:14-15, Rom 15:15-16, 2 Cor. 5:18-20, 2 Cor. 2:10).

This isn't Rocket Scince, Einstein.
I can understand how you need a priest over you between you and Jesus since you skipped the typology of the tabernacle for yourself.

You skipped the brazen Altar(repentance).

You skipped the brazen laver(water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ).

You skipped the Holy of Holies(recieving the Holy Ghost to begin your own priesthood).

I would buy some indulgences from him, if I were you, fella.
 

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I can understand how you need a priest over you between you and Jesus since you skipped the typology of the tabernacle for yourself.
You skipped the brazen Altar(repentance).
You skipped the brazen laver(water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ).
You skipped the Holy of Holies(recieving the Holy Ghost to begin your own priesthood).
I would buy some indulgences from him, if I were you, fella.
WRONG.

I was sealed and received the gifts of the Holy spirit at Baptism, as promised in Acts 2:28-39, John 3:5, Acts 19:1-7, Col. 2:11-12, Tit. 3:4-8.
Because my parents were faithful to those promises - they guided me in faith until I opened those gifts when I was cconfirmed.

YOU keep forgetting that Acts 2 doesn't STOP at verse 38 . . .
Acts 2:39

For the promise is for you AND FOR YOUR CHILDREN and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”

Just like our Jewish forfathers who circumcised their infants in order for them to enter the Covenant with God - MY Parents had me Baptized in order for me to enter the NEW Covenant with God.

You have a LOT to learn about Type and Fulfillment . . .
 

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How do you answer?.
HOW??

I gave you the BIBLICAL PROOF for the NT Ministerial Priesthood.
For starters - you can adrdress that.

I fully understand why you can't - but TRY anyway . . .
 

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On the subject of baptism, if Catholics are saved by infant baptism and receive the Holy Spirit through another ritual when children, then why are their churches unfortunately so DEAD? No Spirit, no life. Their baptisms and confirmations are not doing the job they claim. They are not imparting salvation or the Holy Spirit. Worse than dead, those churches are spiritually like black holes that swallow up any life that might come along....and I say that with sadness. Many protestant churches are that way too. I asked the Lord one day, what is it about so many churches that they seem to put any life to death? The Lord answered me with a single word (as He sometimes does)....."Artificial". In other words man-made. Except the LORD build the house they labour in vain.

Yes, they keep going around the pattern of scripture in subtle ways. Such a thin fine line sometimes between flesh and spirit.

2Co 11:2-4

For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.


Good for us to examine the serpent in the garden and the subtlety in what he said and how he operated.

Wouldn’t be surprising if some Catholic apologists we run into are ‘professionals’ sent in by the RCC.
cause baptism means nothing at all if the heart does not FIRST BELONG TO CHRIST .
Till folks figure that one out they are in deadly and grave danger .
Baptism belongs ONLY to this group ........
Let us look to the example IN THE BIBLE . There once was a eunach , the eunach of queen candance herself .
OF ethiopia . HE had went to JERSUALEM to worship the one true GOD
Upon his leaving he was traveling back to ethiopia . He was busy reading what was written in ISSIAH , chapter FIFTY THREE
to be exact . A believer named phillip who served tables and was one of the seven
was traveling through the desert at that time . GOD , the SPIRIT spoke to phillip and told him to go
to this chariot . Meanwhile the eunach was busy reading ISSIAH .
Phillip came up into His chariot . He then asked the eunach do you understand what you are reading .
TO which the eunach said , HOW can i LEST SOME man guide me .
SO phillip then revealed JESUS to HIM through the passage . NOW for the part we all been waiting for
WHO IS BAPTISM FOR .
The eunach beleived and as they passed some water he said LOOK , LOOK here is WATER
what does HINDER ME to be BAPTIZED . And phillilp then said , IF YA BELIEVE , lets halt it right here ,
Phillip didnt say , ANYONE can be baptized . HE SAID IF YA BELEIVE . TO which the enuach then said I DO BELEIVE
HOW ON EARTH DOES A BABY who can barely grasp any concept , hardley knows anything cept perhaps the paps are how it feeds
MAKE THAT KIND OF DECISION . IT CANT . SEE the catholics believe ITS THE ACT of BAPTISM that saves
BUT ITS THE ACT OF BELIEVIN IN JESUS that saves , THEN , THEN one would be water baptized .
IF a man attacks water baptism , LOOK OUT , cause JESUS and the apostels all knew we should be
IF a man attacks those , LIKE ME who say WE OUGHT to be hearers and DOERS and makes us seem legalistic , RUN FROM THOSE TOO
IF a man thinks he can earn his way to GOD , RUN and RUN fast .
BUT if one simply says YE MUST BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST and IF YOU TRULY DO then YOU WOULD LOVE ALL THINGS HE DID TEACH
you would be hearers and doers and all things HE taught would not be a burden . THEN THAT man aint the monster folks accuse him of being
HE SIMPLY , BY grace and by grace alone , HAS BEENCHANGED and out of great love HE IS JUST reminding folks OF TRUTH .
THE RCC is tanked and sadly so are most of the protestant churches . HYPER grace is false
as are thos who attack men like me who preach IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE IN JESUS YOU WOULD LOVE HIM , aka OBEY HIM .
THEY make me out to be a monster . AND i find BOTH SIDES hate me and do so without a cause . CAUSE ALL I EVER DID was love the people
I WAS THE WORST MAN LIVING , BUT PRAISE GOD FOR HIS WONDERFUL grace given me IN CHRIST JESUS
that not only saved ME , IT CHANGED ME .
 

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On the subject of baptism, if Catholics are saved by infant baptism and receive the Holy Spirit through another ritual when children, then why are their churches unfortunately so DEAD?
Good for us to examine the serpent in the garden and the subtlety in what he said and how he operated.

Wouldn’t be surprising if some Catholic apologists we run into are ‘professionals’ sent in by the RCC.
To argue that Catholicism is untrue because it doesn't transform the lives of those who don't practice it, is like arguing that aspirin doesn't work because it doesn't relieve the headaches of those who don't take it.

The Church only claims to announce the Good News of Jesus Christ, and it invites everyone to embrace the life of grace He offers. It does not claim that people who spurn its teachings and reject its life will be transformed into faithful disciples anyway. Nor does it claim that being born to Catholic parents guarantees that a person will inherit his parents' faith. If you want to see the fruit of the Catholic faith, you have to look at the people who are committed to the faith, who take it seriously and put it into practice every day. It's pointless to look at those who are cultural Catholics only, who say they're Catholic if you ask them, but who don't try to live the life, even though they may go to Mass out of habit, or guilt, or whatever. People aren't magically transformed into good Christians just by walking into a Catholic church (even if they do it every week). Repentance and conversion of heart are the keys to the Christian life. Without them, everything else is sterile and false, whether one calls oneself "Catholic" or not.

But to compare the best Evangelicals with the worst Catholics is hardly fair. If you want to see the real fruit of the Catholic faith, look at the people who actually put it into practice. As you know, the Catholic Church has produced some of the greatest, most on-fire saints the world has ever known. Some of them converted whole nations to Christ. We still marvel at their faith and holiness many centuries after they died.

How Can Catholicism Be True When Catholics Are So Dead?
 
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How do you answer?..."I know the Bible says this, but it may also mean this and this and this and...".
he has the same problem as do catholics and many even within the protestant realm .
And allow me to sum that up by answer your question you gave to him .
You said HOW do you answer . I know the bible says this , but it may also mean that . HE ANSWERS the same as lost protestants do
THE BIBLE MEANS WHAT HIS LEADERS SAID IT MEANS . AND THAT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM .
Now ponder on this for a moment . How many folks you see , whether JW , whether baptist , whether catholic or whatever
ALWAYS answer the way THEIR LEADER or teacher TAUGHT THEM to intepret to the bible . THAT IS A PROBLEM
when the leader TAUGHT THEM WRONG . BUT OH NO , OH NO they wont budge from their leaders position .
I have long said for folks to simply return to the bible and read it for themselves . STOP following the blind
lest one ends up in the ditch .
 

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Both many within the protestant realm have the same problem as those in the catholic realm
THEY TRUST IN THEIR LEADERS , MORE THAN IN GOD . and that is a fact .
Cursed is the man whose trust and hope is in men .
 

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I myself have said TEST all i do say . BUT DO IT by reading the bible FOR YOU . STOP trusting so blindly in man and start actually
seeking GOD for the truth and read that bible FOR YASELF . only many WONT DO THAT .
 
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HOW ON EARTH DOES A BABY who can barely grasp any concept , hardley knows anything cept perhaps the paps are how it feeds
MAKE THAT KIND OF DECISION . IT CANT . SEE the catholics believe ITS THE ACT of BAPTISM that saves
BUT ITS THE ACT OF BELIEVIN IN JESUS that saves , THEN , THEN one would be water baptized .
Both Luther and Calvin, the primary founders of Protestantism, baptized babies, but you don't attack them!!!
BUT PRAISE GOD FOR HIS WONDERFUL grace given me IN CHRIST JESUS
that not only saved ME , IT CHANGED ME .
Maybe so, but your change is only partial because you attack and insult our faith with lies, falsehoods, and silly rants. Your level of anti-Catholicism is a religious sickness. You refuse to be reasoned with.