ewq1938
Well-Known Member
- Jul 11, 2015
- 5,954
- 1,227
- 113
- Faith
- Christian
- Country
- United States
He doesn't reign over the nations with a rod of iron anymore, when the thousand years is over.
The thousand year binding ends before the thousand year reigning.
- Thread starter Marty fox
- Start date
-
Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.
You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!
He doesn't reign over the nations with a rod of iron anymore, when the thousand years is over.
But verse 5 says that they don’t raise until the judgement seat which is after satan is released.
ewq1938
Well-Known Member
- Jul 11, 2015
- 5,954
- 1,227
- 113
- Faith
- Christian
- Country
- United States
That is not a problem or issue. The bible says satan is released before the resurrection of those who are judged at the Great White Throne Judgement (GWTJ).
Timtofly
Well-Known Member
If it is not a literal thousand years, then no one is literally resurrected. Your questions are not literal, but theoretical. Thus they have no literal meaning, nor any literal answers.
Nope! Pre-mill believes Scripture. No verse states Jesus reigns because Satan is bound. One undeniable fact: Satan is bound. A separate undeniable fact: Jesus reigns.
It is amil who teach that Jesus reigns since the first century, since He had to bind Satan first.
There is no verse in all of Scripture saying most of the world "turns" when Satan is loosed. Why do you add to what John wrote, when John tells us not to add to what he wrote.
You don't know the percentage any more than the rest of us. Satan only "turned" 33% of the angels against God. Why do you think it would be higher now than then? What Scriptural basis do you have? Even John pointed that out in Revelation 12:4
"And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth"
That is not adding to what John wrote. That is comparing the influence Satan has on God's created beings.
If 10 billion humans listen to Satan, that still leaves 20 billion humans alive on the earth. That is if you understand that after 1,000 years there will be 30 billion humans on the earth.
Last edited:
Revelation 20:7-8 states that most people turn against God.
No amils don’t teach that Jesus had to bind Satan to reign amils teach that Satan is bound because Jesus reigns
You use your own or another man's teaching and interpretations to DIVIDE up the scriptures, out of context to fit theology.
God doesn't NEED us to interpret nor follow man's teachings. He sent the Spirit, OUR teacher,guide,comforter ect after Jesus ascended as promised.
If we do the studying on our own we are helping God who is the AUTHOUR & FINISHER of the word ,commandments and our walk.
All I did was quote what the scriptures say
Satan is released in verse 7 and verse 5 shows that the rest of the dead rise after satan is released
I keep hearing this said, but who actually says that? Who thinks that? Myself, who have been in premil circles for many years, I've never heard that.
Jesus reigns because He chooses to. Not as some "default second place".
???
Much love!
Of course it doesn't mean that!!
Jesus will still toss Satan into the lake of fire, NOT the other way around!
Much love!
Eternally Grateful
Well-Known Member
This is a little out of order
The thousand years starts in verse 1.
the thousand years comes to a close starting in vs 7 when satan is let go
After that, God wipes out this heaven and earth and a new one is created..
The great white throne judgment happens after the 1000 years.
Eternally Grateful
Well-Known Member
At the end of the 1000 years. After satan is released
after the thousand years. He is captured and cast to helll. then the end of this earth as we know it is done.
THEN the great white thrown judgment occured. All who attend will be cast also into the lake of fire where satan and the beast and false prophet are
Marty are you a preterist?
What form of teachings do you follow.
Jesus reigns NOW in the hearts of
BELIEVERS. He will reign during a thousand yr time span. From my understanding we will be the judges and he the executioner during this time.
The Spirit is sent back to functioning within God's ppl. He LEADS, WE FOLLOW HIS LEAD!
No Jesus earthly reign is NOT NOW. As I said except in the hearts of believers.
What form of teachings do you follow.
Jesus reigns NOW in the hearts of
BELIEVERS. He will reign during a thousand yr time span. From my understanding we will be the judges and he the executioner during this time.
The Spirit is sent back to functioning within God's ppl. He LEADS, WE FOLLOW HIS LEAD!
No Jesus earthly reign is NOT NOW. As I said except in the hearts of believers.
ewq1938
Well-Known Member
- Jul 11, 2015
- 5,954
- 1,227
- 113
- Faith
- Christian
- Country
- United States
Whatever? Read the verses and you will see
No I’m a partial preterist I also am amil
Timtofly
Well-Known Member
No it does not say most people at all. Is that why you don't just quote the verses, so readers cannot see that you add the word "most"?
"And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about."
This does not say all nations. It says they are at the edges, because they have to go across the breadth of the earth. The first generation started in Jerusalem, the center of the map. After 1,000 years people have spread out over the whole earth. Those nations last settled, symbolized by Gog and Magog, with the largest group of humans to have been born in the last 150 years.
I do quote verses I have all through this thread. Do you really not think that they are numbered like the sand of the sea that it’s not most people?
You say that about me and then you add things to the scriptures that are not there where do you get that about the last 150 years? That’s not in the bible.
Is that like partially blind ?
I am an Amil you said, well there you have it,
small wonder.
You obiviously don't believe what God has to say but I'll tell you this,
I am a child of God,saved by the sacrifical blood of Jesus for my sin wages, I stand on God's word, PERIOD
Davy
Well-Known Member
No it doesn't say that, not unless you are reading Revelation 20 using a mirror.
By posing such an idea it reveals to me that you are 'against' The Word of God and have the goal to defame it.
Similar threads
