“I will lift up my eyes to the mountains;
From where shall my help come?”
(Psalm 121:1, NASB)
That’s where it has to start.
An idea for your consideration.
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“I will lift up my eyes to the mountains;
From where shall my help come?”
(Psalm 121:1, NASB)
That’s where it has to start.
No, I don't think you have misunderstood, at all. I would just remind you that in the poorer parts of the world there is no welfare state, and precious little charity, and therefore if your children don't look out for you, or if you have none, your outlook is bleak. As for being selfish, well, maybe so. But for many of the world's poor, it is their only practical option.
Best wishes, 2RM.
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“When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said ‘Let us pray.’ We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.”
(Archbishop Desmond Tutu)
I left them with both. (Although I did bring back a small piece of the land, a rock, from the shores of Lake Victoria. I’m looking at it even as I type this message.)
(Archbishop Desmond Tutu)
I left them with both. (Although I did bring back a small piece of the land, a rock, from the shores of Lake Victoria. I’m looking at it even as I type this message.)
ScottA
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Wealth has nothing to do with it. It's just the way of world to seek progress...but, again, that's got nothing to do with it. Weather is controlled by God.
Pray.
Many scientists think we are now entering a new era of life on Earth. There is even a name for this new era - the anthropocene. The point that distingishes it from all preceeding eras is that humanity has a major impact on climate and weather, not of course as individuals, but certainly in concert. We need to get our joint act together. I hope that when you have finished praying, you will become part of the necessary solution.
Best wishes, 2RM.
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Why may I ask do we need be concerned with " climate change" ?
If this earth is going to be partly destroyed by God during his wrath before the new heaven and new earth, why worry ? Be happy if you've been redeemed.
If this earth is going to be partly destroyed by God during his wrath before the new heaven and new earth, why worry ? Be happy if you've been redeemed.
Why is it so hard for people to realise that God loves us all, saints and sinners alike? Our love may be partial and partisan, but God's is not. All He asks of us is that we should love Him, and love each other. Even should we not manage Jesus' two great commandments, there is nothing in the Gospels about God withdrawing His love.
Best wishes, 2RM.
I do not believe there is any such teaching in the NT. But I may be wrong. A suitable citation would, I agree, resolve the matter once and for all.
Best wishes, 2RM.
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When you are through with your fellow man, you put God last. He does likewise.
Citation, please, supporting this conjecture. Book, chapter and verse(s).
Best wishes, 2RM.
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Hmmm. Well, I guess because God is not destroying the Earth. We are. God may have the right to bring about the end of His creation, but I very much doubt that we do. Our job is simply to act as good stewards of it, for the benefit of our children and theirs. This is not a duty, it seems to me, we are discharging well at present. And in any case, we none of us know if we are truly redeemed, or whether our residual sinfulness will find us wanting. My own suspicion is that, say, being 'born again', is just the start of our Christian lives, not the culmination of them. There is plenty of work to do before we can claim that.
Best wishes, 2RM.
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Why are the elite buying shoreline properties in great number? Why do the elite live lifestyles that ignore "carbon footprints"? Why haven't the predictions of rising sea levels happened?
And why doesn't anyone acknowledge and reconcile the fact that the earth has gone through significant temperature changes in the last couple of thousand years including a cold spell when the Thames froze, warm years when Greenland (ever wonder the reason for that name?) was verdant farmland. 40, 50 years ago, we were in danger of a coming Ice Age. Now we're in a "Global Warming".
The elite aren't buying it. Follow the money. It's a matter of enrichment and control. Do you know how much money these guys are making on this stuff? It's made Al Gore an extremely rich man, not to mention a whole lot of others.
And why is it a "Western" issue? China is the most aggregious offender of all, but that's all OK with everyone, No, make the West, and in particular the USA back to third world while China does as it pleases and surges ahead.
Hold back the USA and allow China to progress. This seems like a common agenda these days.
It's not science, and I'm not buying it either. Take your money, and take your ability to do anything about it. That's the agenda these days. The elite want to rule, and they've made a deal with the devil to do it.
Much love!
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Maybe..
See if you can spot pollution, the ozone hole, radiation symptoms and ultra-violet burns in here-
"And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty."(Isaiah 3:24)
the clock is ticking..
"The time has come for judging the dead...and for destroying those who destroy the earth" (Revelation 11:18 )
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Yes, I once asked polar explorer Mike Stroud if global warming is a myth and he simply replied "The glaciers are melting".
Incidentally I wonder how many "eco-warriors" drive cars?
(I don't drive myself)..
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It is clear that you are saying that people have created a problem and you are seeking collaboration in having people fix it. But that is not the way of things according to scripture:
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the Lord, do all these things.’
Matthew 6:33
But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
Nor did I offer "conjecture", but scripture and correction, but you did not want to hear it.I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the Lord, do all these things.’
Matthew 6:33
But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
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i gotta say, im presently agnostic on the matter, but i am noting the sea level change over 100 years in the photo of…Sydney? Harbor, floating around. Which is like 0 inches, btw. Now how that could be with all of the ice melting, idk
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While I don't buy into the theory that our changing climate is man made, the climate is changing.
So how can we anticipate the changes and be proactive in helping those who might be affected.
There is a good initiative I am aware of.
I would suggest check out this guy and see what he is doing.
Dr. Chris Elisara - World Evangelical Alliance
I met Chris several years ago - his aim was to teach the stewardship of the planet from a biblical base.
He launched a programme for undergraduates to study the environments of New Zealand, Samoa and Belize - they lived in community - it was an impressive programme worth checking out.
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