Here is why, as an Adventist, I believe America is in Trouble.

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The Light

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A masculine pronoun does not prove the subject is a male person. (Babylon is a "she" but is not a female woman) Try taking some introductory Greek grammar lessons.
No need for lessons. Just read what it says. Or are you woke and don't know a him from a her?
 

ewq1938

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No need for lessons.


Which explains your ignorance of the Greek being used. Until you get some basic education in Greek grammar your opinion on this is non-valid.
 

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lol, that was after they left Egypt and they were told by Moses showing that they did not know of it before.

Exo 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
Exo 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
Exo 16:27 And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
Exo 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
Exo 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
Exo 16:30 So the people rested on the seventh day.
It seems you must have missed vs 28
 

ewq1938

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It seems you must have missed vs 28


Nope, and it's the other side missing the entire chapter. This is the first time man was told about the Sabbath and it's rules, and they didn't even get it right the first time!

Let's get back to the fact that Sunday worship being the mark is not scriptural and exists solely within SDA doctrine.
 

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Nope, and it's the other side missing the entire chapter. This is the first time man was told about the Sabbath and it's rules, and they didn't even get it right the first time!

Let's get back to the fact that Sunday worship being the mark is not scriptural and exists solely within SDA doctrine.
You are not intellectually honest thereby making my participation in this chat with you undesirable.
 

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Which explains your ignorance of the Greek being used. Until you get some basic education in Greek grammar your opinion on this is non-valid.
Well, you have me at a disadvantage as I am unable to identify the source of your ignorance.

What pronoun should I use?
 

ewq1938

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Well, you have me at a disadvantage as I am unable to identify the source of your ignorance.


We are talking about your ignorance of Greek grammar and belief that it doesn't even matter, which is wrong.
 

The Light

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We are talking about your ignorance of Greek grammar and belief that it doesn't even matter, which is wrong.
No. That's what you are talking about. I'm talking about knowing the difference between a him and a her, Greek language or not.
 

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It does say those who have the mark may buy and sell. Nothing is said about the mark being given for worship.
Satan is allowed to kill any who do not worship him.

"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."

You could have the mark, to buy and sell, economics. But even with the mark, if you did not worship, you could still be killed.

However having the mark, but being killed for not worshiping will still place you ultimately into the LOF.

The only way to avoid worshipping, and the mark, is to just get it done and over with, and that is a beheading.

This period is only during the 42 months leading up to the 7vials (wrath of God) Armageddon. The vials are poured out in the 3 days after the 42 months are over. When the 2 witnesses are killed and left for dead, that marks the same 3 day period between the 42 months and Armageddon. The 6th vial is the gathering of all humanity against Christ the King at Armageddon.

"And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon."
 

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The first beast in Revelation 13 is the Antichrist.
I wish that was true.
The man of sin is a horn. Nowhere does it say the man of sin is THE Antichrist. He could be, but it isn’t spelled out. Also, The horns are ON the beast of the sea. They are not the beast itself. But instead of explaining detail for detail, I’ll just point you to Daniel 7.
 

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I wish that was true.
The man of sin is a horn. Nowhere does it say the man of sin is THE Antichrist.


Where does Paul say the man of sin is a horn? Seems like you are mixing things from different prophecies.
 

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Where does Paul say the man of sin is a horn? Seems like you are mixing things from different prophecies.
I didn’t say Paul stated the man of sin is a horn.
And My response was to another, I’ll wait for him. Thanks for stopping by.
 

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Where does Paul say the man of sin is a horn? Seems like you are mixing things from different prophecies.
I didn’t say Paul stated the man of sin is a horn.
And My response was to another, I’ll wait for him. Thanks for stopping by.

You are both correct, Paul did not speak of the man of sin being a horn. However, that does not preclude the possibility, which I personally believe in reality, of the Antichrist being depicted in prophetic scripture in different forms, and may be recognized as being the same entity through common details that apply to each depiction. This is how the reformers came to their conclusions regarding the Papacy, by comparing scripture with scripture, and the conclusions they came to they taught and those truths spread like wildfire across Europe, and in conjunction with the Bible becoming increasingly available to the common people in their own languages, spread with such power that it was like a great earthquake that ripped Rome apart, to such an extent the leaders feared this was the end of the church. This was born the fear induced counter reformation, with the two options of futurism and preterism, both of which bypassed and hid the Papacy from prophetic identification. It took a couple of centuries to take full effect, but you both have become victims to this deception, and that deception had become very successful, to the point where protestantism by and large reject outright the reformers understanding of prophecy, mock those who still teach it, and promote the concept that the protest is over and we should now all return to Rome and unite under her banner.
Though Paul depicted Antichrist as the man of sin, the little horn of Daniel 7 is also the Antichrist, as is also the first beast of Revelation 13. There are definite incontrovertible common characteristics, time frames, and historical links, parallels, between all 3.
 

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Though Paul depicted Antichrist as the man of sin, the little horn of Daniel 7 is also the Antichrist, as is also the first beast of Revelation 13.

Did Paul say the man of sin performs miracles to deceive?