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I argue against those turning the grace of God into lasciviousness (Jude 1:4).
I encourage good works unto God (Romans 6:3).

And discourage the works of darkness among believers (Romans 13:12).

Yes, there are your works again.

And you posted the Legalists typical "work my way into heaven" theology, instead of Trusting in God's Grace as the only way there.
You do this in almost every post.
This is that "license to sin" concept, created by Heretics, that refuses to Give Christ alone all the Credit for Salvation, and replaces this with "works".
 

Michiah-Imla

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Yes, there are your works again.

I posted scripture. I don’t know what your reading…

And you posted the typical "work my way into heaven"

I see, posting scripture is equated to “working my way to heaven”…

[eyes rolling]

This is that "license to sin", concept that refuses to Give Christ alone all the Credit for Salvation

Oh please! Stop it with the unbiblical definitions that some man pulled out his crafty mind!

Here are the sins you give license to:

“Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like:

they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19-21)

And you, oh deluded one, will not inherit the Kingdom of God either if you commit any of these acts after being converted!

The scriptures have WARNED YOU!
 

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I see, posting scripture is equated to “working my way to heaven”…

they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19-21)

You only post about losing salvation, or doing works.
And you'll do it again.
There is no Cross in your Posts, ....... and that is reflected in your Theology.

Also, notice your verse... "shall NOT inherit the KOG".

Yet, the Born again, are already in it......so, we the born again are not trying to inherit it.....we are IN IT.

"translated from Darkness to LIGHT>.........
See that?
""Jesus is the Light of the World"" and the born again are "Children of THE LIGHT"
That is to exist in the KOG. This is to become "one with God" "In Christ".
That is to be BORN AGAIN.
Its to exist here...>"Seated in Heavenly Places". 'IN Christ".
 

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You are in heaven now?

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My Born again Spirit is in God, in Christ.
All the born again, their born again Spirit, is "ONE with God, in Christ".
This is what it means to be BORN AGAIN.
Jesus said you must be "BORN AGAIN".....and that is your SPIRIT< being birthed into the Spirit of God, by the Spirit of God.

"born..........again".

Where is God Located?
And all the Sons of God, who are the born again, are "in Christ".
Where is Christ?

so, you really dont know any of this, and that is not good for you, but it does explain why your Theology has no Cross of Christ in it.
Look at your posts.
There is no Cross in your Theology.
Its missing !
 

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“And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.” (Matthew 10:38)

No sinner is ever worthy of Jesus., not before they are saved or after.
You probably think you are, based on your posts that are all about your self effort to try to save yourself.
 

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No sinner is ever worthy of Jesus., not before they are saved or after.
You probably think you are, based on your posts that are all about your self effort to try to save yourself.
I don't understand. Are you arguing with Jesus? or how do you interpret His words here?

It's true He is not saying we can ever be worthy of Him, but I believe He is saying here that if we don't take up our cross and follow Him, we will not be COUNTED worthy of Him. Salvation is THROUGH Him and IN Him, so to be IN Him we need to be following/obeying Him, otherwise we're not remaining IN Him, if He is over in one place and we've wandered somewhere else where He is not, so to speak.

In all the MANY instructions and exhortations and admonishments of Jesus and the apostles' letters, were they telling us to work for our salvation? No. But I take it those words are a light unto our path and a lamp unto our feet....guiding our feet in the right direction and helping our hearts to discern right from wrong. We don't come to Jesus and automatically follow Him perfectly in everything....like infants and children that grow we start out mostly ignorant of His ways and need the instruction of scripture to learn and grow. We're like sheep prone to wandering, who need a Shepherd....to be led by the Lord, by His Spirit and word working together. His rod and His staff...the instruments of the Shepherd....guiding and nudging us along His narrow path. Occasionally giving us a whack on the hiney when we need it too. :)

I believe there is a right and wrong way to preach His word though. People can fall from grace if it's not done properly. But neither should we ignore any of it because we do NEED it all.
 

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It's true He is not saying we can ever be worthy of Him, but I believe He is saying here that if we don't take up our cross and follow Him, we will not be COUNTED worthy of Him. .

We are never worthy of Christ.
He is Holy, you are not.


So, here is the Thing.
Salvation, is God coming here, dying on the Cross, so that all your sin can be forgiven and God can GIFT you with His Righteousness.

That is how you become Holy., as a born again Spirit.
That is NOT Your body or your mind.
So, understand that.


You can't do that for yourself.
So, when you read a verse that says..>"be ye holy as God is holy"...or anything related to doing works..... then that is never teaching you that you can do any righteous works or you can become righteous by works, as all your works are "filthy rags". Isaiah 64:6.

You can do works, saved or lost.
You can carry your Cross. You can be obedient. You can do whatever you like, but you can't be righteous....of yourself, as "all have sinned". Romans 3:23
So, as God can't have you in His Heaven, unless you are as Holy as God, then He had to come here and die on the Cross to provide you, with the "Gift of Righteousness" so that you become HIS righteous. "the righteousness of God, IN Christ".
This is to become : Born again.
That is NOT a work.
 
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