Sola scriptura?

amigo de christo · Aug 26, 2022

The problem with the CC , the mormons , the jw and scores of others is at best when they USE the bible
they use it to try and point ME to their church and not TO CHRIST .
FIGURE that one out before its too late . WHEN MEN only USE the bible as a means to point us to their own traditions
THEY AINT POINTING ANYONE TO CHRIST . THEY only use truths to try and justify why they do as they do and why i should join them .
I say use not the truth as a means to justify the traditions of men , change not the truth to conform to the traditions of men .
SIMPLY COME TO CHRIST and let the TRUTH you read CHANGE YOU . FIGURE IT OUT FOLKS before its too late .
I have loved you all , i truly have . I have not come to point you to the religion of amigo or any other mans denonmination .
BUT RATHER TO THE JESUS OF THE BIBLE , to the apostels OF said bible and all THAT SOUND DOCTRINE .
DONT let your leaders fool ya , LIKE you cant learn the bible without them and their scholars .
WE GOT ALL WE NEED IF ONE HAS CHRIST . FOR a lamb of CHRIST has THE SPIRIT and can truly know and learn FROM GOD .
DONT Let men be your ruin , TEST all men . DO SO not against what your tradition taught you , BUT rather by what is
written IN the BIBLE .

L.A.M.B. · Aug 26, 2022

theefaith said:
please explain

Matt 24:13 endures to the end.

Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

Heb 6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:

1. Romans 11:22 – God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness

2. Colossians 1:21-23 – holy and blameless, if you continue in the faith"

3. The race of faith: the example of Paul

4. Hebrews 12:22-25: "we shall not escape if we turn away from Him"

5. Hebrews 4:1-3, 9-12: "strive to enter the rest of God"

6.Hebrews 6:4-9 – those who became partakers of the holy spirit and fell away

7. Hebrews 10:23-29, 35-39: "if we sin willfully", "if anyone draws back".

8. Matthew 24:13: He that endures to the end, the same shall be saved

9. Hebrews 3:4-6: Holding fast our confidence firm until the end

10. Matthew 24:13: "But the one who endures to the end will be saved"

11. 1 John 2:24-25 – "if what you heard from the beginning abides in you"

12. 2 John 8-9 : to "everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ

13. 2 Peter 1:5-11 : "Make every effort to supplement your faith"

14. Philippians 2:12-16: "work out your salvation with fear and trembling"

15. 1 Timothy 6:10-16: the love of money

16. Galatians 5:2-4 "Severed from Christ"

17. 2 Timothy 2:11-13: "if we deny him, he will also deny us"

18. James 5:19-20: the wandered brother

19. Some will abandon the faith

20. 1 Timothy 5:8: "he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever"

22. The real family of Jesus: "Those who hear the Word of God and do it"

23. 1 Corinthians 5:5: "so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord"

24. Peter 2: "It would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness"

25. Jude: "Turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness" - a much relevant warning

26. 1 Cor. 9:27 ....Lest I myself might become a castaway

27. Heb 1:14 shall be heirs of salvation

Romans 1:5
By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
(Must remain obedient)

(He who endured to the end) one who dies in a state of grace united to Jesus Christ by faith and baptism!
Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38 1 pet 3:21
Matt 24:13

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

So salvation by “faith alone” is completely false and impossible if baptism is rejected!

Please I asked you not to send a laundry list of scriptures, yet you have again.

I study the word thru prayer and by allowing the Holy Ghost to teach me. I DO NOT NEED ANOTHER TEACHER ! THX.

The gift of salvation was created by God before the foundations of the world. He knew man would fail to love and worship ONLY Him. In agreement the LAMB OF GOD was to come in the flesh born of the Spirit and mankind, be tested and tried as we are, then commit himself to the will of the Father by being the ONLY perfevt sacrifice for sin, a blood sacrifice done only once.

Salvation is a gift offered to ALL, WHOSOEVER WILL. This event takes place to take away our OLD PAST SINS, to renew our minds and hearts and to fix our eyes on walking with and worshipping God.

This walk is straight and narrow and very perilous bc the devil is about like a roaring lion to destroy, devour and take away what is God's.

Yes it is everyone to the end of life or glorification that will be saved,so we press on. The mark is reached when heaven is obtained, after the race. So to get to the end is imperative!

I walk with the word by grace through faith, following GOD'S doctrine,instructions,corrections and commandments to obtain the promise of eternal life, a the end of this mortal life.

L.A.M.B. · Aug 26, 2022

@theefaith ,

Are you saved ?

Do you post the agenda of your corporation?
It certainly sounds as if it is written by a league of men in a council.

I take nothing a man, any man has to say w / o it checks with the word of God. All here do not!

amigo de christo · Aug 26, 2022

L3astAm0ngManyB13ss3d said:
@theefaith ,

Are you saved ?

Do you post the agenda of your corporation?
It certainly sounds as if it is written by a league of men in a council.

I take nothing a man, any man has to say w / o it checks with the word of God. All here do not!

Truth is VERY FEW DO . most sit under what their own leaders have tuaght them .
And will not learn the scrips for themselves but rather through the lens of the denomination they sat under .
TIME to go into bibles is what i say to all . Now lift those hands up and let all that even draws breath praise the glorious LORD .

Heart2Soul · Aug 26, 2022

amigo de christo said:
So long as folks wont follow the example paul and others taught , You all

BreadOfLife said:
You’re a living, breathing contradiction.

You’re telling people that they need to “flee” from the Church – yet YOU cling to a CATHOLIC TRADITION as your “SOLE Authority” and depend on it for your very salvation.

The fact that you don’t see the blatant hypocrisy in this is mind-boggling.
Not surprising – just mind-boggling . . .

First you claim the RCC is a cult, now it's simply CC is one which includes all Catholic Churches....
Let me share something with everyone...
Catholic spiritual teaching includes spreading the Gospel while Catholic social teaching emphasizes support for the sick, the poor and the afflicted through the corporal and spiritual works of mercy.
The Catholic Church is the largest non-governmental provider of education and medical services in the world.
They are also the only church that teaches and trains their priests on how to perform an exorcism....and it isn't like what Hollywood portrays in movies such as The Exorcist.
So with all their faults they have many positive attributes of their charities to help society.
Whatever is happening at the upper administrative level of the RCC isn't happening in all members of the church nor in all CC churches.
I am not even Catholic and yet here I am defending them against your endless chatter claiming they are evil....
Well I am demanding proof of what you claim....it's time to back up what you say with your source or keep silent.
Obviously, someone taught you this...so who.
Thanks

L.A.M.B. · Aug 26, 2022

I agree Heart,

We have zero way of knowing a persons heart and true faith.

There will others from all denominations that worship him in truth and he will accept them. There will even be those that have no religious affiliations.

Any and ALL DOCTRINES should be what thus saith God in his word.
All denominations have a form of mans interpretations as doctrine and teaching. ALL !

I know at times it is hard to look beyond the person posting, rather than the doctrines they say they believe. It would be in OUR OWN best interest to do as the bible says after 2 or 3 admonishments,diengage and leave them to the Lord.

The Learner · Aug 26, 2022

oh long run to here

marksman · Aug 26, 2022

theefaith said:
This clown was not even born until 1832!!!

Saint Francis Xavier went to India in 1541 and then went to Japan In 1549 had a meeting with the emperor of china but soon died and his fellow missionaries went into china

what clown?

marksman · Aug 26, 2022

amigo de christo said:
okay my friend . Was his doctrine sound . I mean you know more about the man then i do .

I hope not as empty vessels make the most sound

The Learner · Aug 26, 2022

how did I get to here?

Heart2Soul · Aug 26, 2022

Heart2Soul said:
First you claim the RCC is a cult, now it's simply CC is one which includes all Catholic Churches....
Let me share something with everyone...
Catholic spiritual teaching includes spreading the Gospel while Catholic social teaching emphasizes support for the sick, the poor and the afflicted through the corporal and spiritual works of mercy.
The Catholic Church is the largest non-governmental provider of education and medical services in the world.
They are also the only church that teaches and trains their priests on how to perform an exorcism....and it isn't like what Hollywood portrays in movies such as The Exorcist.
So with all their faults they have many positive attributes of their charities to help society.
Whatever is happening at the upper administrative level of the RCC isn't happening in all members of the church nor in all CC churches.
I am not even Catholic and yet here I am defending them against your endless chatter claiming they are evil....
Well I am demanding proof of what you claim....it's time to back up what you say with your source or keep silent.
Obviously, someone taught you this...so who.
Thanks

I apologize @amigo de christo , I went back and read my post and it sounds so....mean...I didn't mean for it to.
Your opinion and factual information is welcomed and wanted.
Please forgive me for seeming so harsh.
God Bless

amigo de christo · Aug 27, 2022

Heart2Soul said:
I apologize @amigo de christo , I went back and read my post and it sounds so....mean...I didn't mean for it to.
Your opinion and factual information is welcomed and wanted.
Please forgive me for seeming so harsh.
God Bless

Even when BOL uses words like hyprocrite its almost kind as compared to what i have heard and been called .
No worries at all . If we love the peoples we warn the peoples and i truly do fear for catholics .
There are lots of nice people that can be decieved . Many institutions give money to the poor
and do lots of good things . Even buddits , even atheists . I know many pagan folks that can do good .
But as you know it dont mean they are not decieved .
My simple question is , When did peter go from telling cornelious
who had kneeled before him , TO get up , TO a man who sits on a throne and has folks kissing his ring .
I dont know when it happened . But something went wrong in the Catholic church .
From what i have studied , and that was even in books written by catholics who are still catholics , Something went bad wrong .
From actual research i can only say it was around the Time of constantine . Maybe before that , but that i dont know .
Something went wrong . The church went from the simplicty of Christ and became infiltrated with men who seem to love
the pre eminence . And if we love the peoples we would do all to pull them away from anything that is dangerous .
Did you know that MOSES once was told to make a rod , with a golden serpent .
They kept that rod and other things as they were told to do .
But a time came when a king had to destroy that rod . WHY .
Because they were burning incense to it . So tell me , what is the difference
of making statues of mary or peter or others and then burning incense unto it .
Something went wrong and all i am doing is trying to pull folks away from such a place .
Believe me when i say , GOD is not at all well pleased with such things .
Sadly i watched a video where they were carrying a statue of mary . One of the men
slipped and then it toppled and fell and broke By all the cries of the memebers in said church
you would have thought someone died . Yet its just a piece of porcelin . Number one it aint mary
and number two why should we build such things unto men . WHEN even peter or mary would have rejected such a thing .
And GOD does . Folks need to stop doing such things and simply return to the simplicty in Christ .

Josho · Aug 27, 2022

amigo de christo said:
The problem with the CC , the mormons , the jw and scores of others is at best when they USE the bible
they use it to try and point ME to their church and not TO CHRIST .
FIGURE that one out before its too late . WHEN MEN only USE the bible as a means to point us to their own traditions
THEY AINT POINTING ANYONE TO CHRIST . THEY only use truths to try and justify why they do as they do and why i should join them .
I say use not the truth as a means to justify the traditions of men , change not the truth to conform to the traditions of men .
SIMPLY COME TO CHRIST and let the TRUTH you read CHANGE YOU . FIGURE IT OUT FOLKS before its too late .
I have loved you all , i truly have . I have not come to point you to the religion of amigo or any other mans denonmination .
BUT RATHER TO THE JESUS OF THE BIBLE , to the apostels OF said bible and all THAT SOUND DOCTRINE .
DONT let your leaders fool ya , LIKE you cant learn the bible without them and their scholars .
WE GOT ALL WE NEED IF ONE HAS CHRIST . FOR a lamb of CHRIST has THE SPIRIT and can truly know and learn FROM GOD .
DONT Let men be your ruin , TEST all men . DO SO not against what your tradition taught you , BUT rather by what is
written IN the BIBLE .

The good thing about the Catholic Church is they are still defending traditional marriage. In the Anglican they are actually trying to change that and there has just been a split as a result.

amigo de christo · Aug 27, 2022

Josho said:
The good thing about the Catholic Church is they are still defending traditional marriage. In the Anglican they are actually trying to change that and there has just been a split as a result.

The thing is that we cant just defend certain truths . We must defend all truth .
Its true that within the angelican church they support gay marriage . Its why i warn against all sides who support any evil , IF even it does
defend some truth .
We cannot , as christains choose to expose SOME sins while overlooking others .
This is why i am trying to make it so simple by telling folks to go back into their bibles and learn ALL the TRUTH JESUS taught
and those apostels taught . I mean the love of money is one serious evil . I SEE some who love that money
and yet they cry out against abortion and gay marriage . WELL They gotta STOP LOVING THAT MONEY
or all they are is hyprocrites who pick and choose their sin .
WE must expose ALL SIN . Accepting no sins . Just walking in the SPIRIT and learning those bibles well .

amigo de christo · Aug 27, 2022

Josho said:
The good thing about the Catholic Church is they are still defending traditional marriage. In the Anglican they are actually trying to change that and there has just been a split as a result.

IT would be so simple if folks returned to the bible for themselves and learned the truth .

amigo de christo · Aug 27, 2022

marksman said:
I hope not as empty vessels make the most sound

my friend i meant SOUND BIBLICAL . As far as empty vessels i notice the all inclusive seem to make
much more sounds and attacks when one brings a simple correction . YOU should see it my friend .
ALL of a sudden the lovey all inclusive tolerate everything , HAS TEETH and rage when correction is brought .
They the ones guilty of the very hate they accuse us who correct of having .

amigo de christo · Aug 27, 2022

If you dont believe me try brining scripture to the all inclusive .
They will about rip your head off calling you a hater and a monster .
Rather odd . THEY will tolerate two gay men or women sitting in a church and just living it up ,
they will tolerate ideas of many paths to GOD
BUT TRY bringing one scripture that exposes a lie , THEY WONT TOLERATE THAT FOR ONE SECOND . Exactly .

amigo de christo · Aug 27, 2022

So , they tolerate a lie and sin , BUT have zero tolerance for THE TRUTH that exposes said sin .
So much for seeker friendly and the all inclusive all tolerant .
THEY would TELL JESUS , IF he showed up as a man in thier church ,
HEY HATER YOU NEED TO JESUS , GOD IS LOVE . this generation is tanked . But i aint giving up on it
and thus i am going to do all to warn and expose any error and to point only to CHRIST and sound biblical truth
in hopes some will repent . NO matter the cost to me for doing so .

L.A.M.B. · Aug 27, 2022

The only reason I can see for wanting to believe what man thinks or says is LACK of CONFIDENCE in what the Lord says, as if it isnt enough !

Are not all the Solas correct, it is by hearing the word we can be saved.
It is by the measure of faith that God has given everyone that we CAN BELIEVE.
It is by GRACE alone, that unmerited favour from God bc of his great love. He created a ppls to worship him.

It is through Jesus Christ alone that we even have a way of redemption. The Jews had the law & God's eye, the Gentiles their conscience.
His suffering & death tore open any boundaries to knowing the Father in a personal way. ONLY BY JESUS CAN WE BE SAVED !

Ephesians 2:8 ( cxt 6-9)
For by grace are ye saved through faith;...................... it is the gift of God.
Romans 10:17 ( cxt 15-18 )
So then faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God.
John 14:6 ( cxt 4-7 )
Jesus saith unto him, I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE: NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER...........BUT BY ME.

amigo de christo · Aug 27, 2022

L3astAm0ngManyB13ss3d said:
The only reason I can see for wanting to believe what man thinks or says is LACK of CONFIDENCE in what the Lord says, as if it isnt enough !

Are not all the Solas correct, it is by hearing the word we can be saved.
It is by the measure of faith that God has given everyone that we CAN BELIEVE.
It is by GRACE alone, that unmerited favour from God bc of his great love. He created a ppls to worship him.

It is through Jesus Christ alone that we even have a way of redemption. The Jews had the law & God's eye, the Gentiles their conscience.
His suffering & death tore open any boundaries to knowing the Father in a personal way. ONLY BY JESUS CAN WE BE SAVED !

Ephesians 2:8 ( cxt 6-9)
For by grace are ye saved through faith;...................... it is the gift of God.
Romans 10:17 ( cxt 15-18 )
So then faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God.
John 14:6 ( cxt 4-7 )
Jesus saith unto him, I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE: NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER...........BUT BY ME.

KEEP that PLANTED UPON THE HEART and the MIND . And let us heed all warnings and all reminders .
IF JESUS himself warned about He who she who continues to the end the same shall be saved , THEN Let us warn the same .
IF JESUS said a hearer only decieves himself , then let us KNOW its true and let us continue to remind all
to be both hearers and doers of the WORD . IF JESUS from heaven rebuked a church
for aljlowing a false one to teach and to seduce the people , THEN let no man attack me for warning out against ROME
and other false teachers . YET most go right after me as being hateful just cause i name names and warn folks to steer clear of false
ones and false doctrines . WE gotta keep glued in all those reminders and let nothing slip . Now march on in the LORD .

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