Poll: Tattoo artist: if a Christian daughter/son of yours worked as one, would you be supportive?

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Poll: Tattoo artist: if a daughter/son of yours worked as a tattoo artist, would you be supportive?

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Mantis

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I believe we as believers should give tattoos a pass, yes. The Israelites were told not to copy the ways of the heathen nations around them. That for the church means we should not live as the lost world lives who are in darkness. Unfortunately the world is influencing and infiltrating the church today much more than the other way around.

Lev 19:28

‘You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.
Well a lot of us from my church were lost and in darkness and came into Christianity already tattooed!

and the way I read that verse is not to tattoo yourself for the dead.
 

farouk

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Maybe not, unfortunately. But it is certainly very world-like isn't it. :/
@Lizbeth

It would probably be very widely accepted that the supposedly "unlady-like" character of tattoos - especially if tasteful and faith-based - is untenable today.

Some generations ago, people with a hyperconservative mindset might have claimed supposedly that "nice Christian ladies don't get tattooed'.

Whereas actually in fact rather widely today, just with as earnest young men in the military nailing their colours to the mast - so to speak - by getting ink with something faith based/patriotic, so also using a tattoo parlor for faith based ink is exactly the sort of thing a preacher's daughter going to college and wishing to witness to her friends, homeschooling moms among home Bible studies in the Midwest, etc. are actually likely to receive.

This is a fact.

There has been such a development over the decades that it's now often conservative ppl who likely will express what's on their hearts through some ink:

GodsGrace said:
almost every young girl I know has some sort of tatoo.
Even those very conservative types.

FHII said:
Probably 75% of the congregation have tattoos, including myself and the Pastor .. I have a tattoo, I am not ashamed of it ..I also agree that it makes a statement of freedom in Christ. .. We got a lot of folks inked in our Church. Myself, the Pastor, his daughter and grand daughter included. Now, even my wife

There will always be strong likes and dislikes about the whole area of tattoos.

But among conservative, Godly people — not least in Western America — they can be a matter of longstanding, deliberate choice and planning:

HeatherA said:
I do have a cross tattoo. ...among other stuff Reno also has a lot of tattoo places. Carson City has a few. Most people travel to Reno or Las Vegas for it.
I have 1 tattoo and I got it in Reno. .. I waited 5 years before getting it.

greenvneck said:
I would be hard-pressed to come up with more than a handful of names of my friends who DON'T have at least one tattoo--and we are all suburban homeschooling moms, ages ranging from early-30s to mid-50s, living in conservative North Texas.
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So yes indeed, not everyone is going to like or appreciate tattoos; I agree.

But far from being supposedly "un-ladylike", the facts demonstrate that, although many, many years ago it might have been male sailors and bikers that received them, it's something that is instead also regarded as a benign, rather womanly thing that is widely practised, viewed as a testimony opportunity to express what's on one's heart. (Culturally, it's a bit like double ear piercing, I guess: whereas in the late 70s when teen girls - and their moms - started getting double ear piercings it might for a short while have been initially regarded as slightly edgy fashion-wise, but now through natural osmosis - so to speak - it's something that women of all ages do confidently.)
 
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@Lizbeth

It would probably be very widely accepted that the supposedly "unlady-like" character of tattoos - especially if tasteful and faith-based - is untenable today.

Some generations ago, people with a hyperconservative mindset might have claimed supposedly that "nice Christian ladies don't get tattooed'.

Whereas actually in fact rather widely today, just with as earnest young men in the military nailing their colours to the mast - so to speak - by getting ink with something faith based/patriotic, so also using a tattoo parlor for faith based ink is exactly the sort of thing a preacher's daughter going to college and wishing to witness to her friends, homeschooling moms among home Bible studies in the Midwest, etc. are actually likely to receive.

This is a fact.

There has been such a development over the decades that it's now often conservative ppl who likely will express what's on their hearts through some ink:

GodsGrace said:


FHII said:


There will always be strong likes and dislikes about the whole area of tattoos.

But among conservative, Godly people — not least in Western America — they can be a matter of longstanding, deliberate choice and planning:

HeatherA said:


greenvneck said:

forums dot thewelltrainedmind dot com

So yes indeed, not everyone is going to like or appreciate tattoos; I agree.

But far from being supposedly "un-ladylike", the facts demonstrate that, although many, many years ago it might have been male sailors and bikers that received them, it's something that is instead also regarded as a benign, rather womanly thing that is widely practised, viewed as a testimony opportunity to express what's on one's heart. (Culturally, it's a bit like double ear piercing, I guess: whereas in the late 70s when teen girls - and their moms - started getting double ear piercings it might for a short while have been initially regarded as slightly edgy fashion-wise, but now through natural osmosis - so to speak - it's something that women of all ages do confidently.)
I think we need something more substantial than "everybody's doing it" to go by. That is rather more an argument against it I would think. Narrow is the way and few find it.
 
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farouk

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I think we need something more substantial than "everybody's doing it" to go by. That is rather more an argument against it I would think. Narrow is the way and few find it.
@Lizbeth Good, general reference to the principle of Matthew 7.14.

@Mantis also has a valid point:

Well a lot of us from my church were lost and in darkness and came into Christianity already tattooed!

It's also an especially strong expectation among certain demographics, such as nurses (who use them as ice breakers with patients and their families), military wives (who often express faith, family or patriotic themes in ink), etc.:

@Heart2Soul said:
I really like some of them. .. it is becoming a norm with health professionals...It is becoming a tool people are using to let others identify their faith. ..I do like the idea of Christian based tattoos

BluegrassRN said:
More of the nurses that I work with have tattoos than do not. On my shift, only three don't have them (of 13 nurses). ...I've had a few wives tell me of their husbands' tattoos after seeing mine. It's such a sweet, intimate, bonding moment, and I feel so privileged to be told a story that may have only been related to close friends and relatives.
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GillDouglas said:
My wife has talked about this possibility, but she has said she'd have a hard time deciding what to put permanently on her body. She has been urged by other military spouses to get one.
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farouk

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No, not at all. Defiling oneself by writing the word of God on you... my that is really something. What about defiling oneself by doing something morally wrong instead. No, that would be too logically consistent. Yeah, I get really annoyed by such nonsense.

@dhh712

I really don't get the "unlady-like" thing, either. Someone tried to claim:

Tattoos are unlady-like. That is why I would never have one.

Ppl are indeed entitled to their personal strong likes and dislikes, but the supposedly "unlady-like" thing is very hard to sustain. UnrulyBeauty is right when she says:

The last one I got was many, many years ago. I would love to get a few more before I'm old and wrinkly.. I think a lot of older people (and I'm not young to begin with lol) still think that tattoos are this grungy, rough, male trend. But that hasn't been the case for many, many years.

Historically also, it's just not true that they have been supposedly "unlady-like":

one of the major resurgences of interest in tattoos in Europe occurred among 19th century high society Victorian women (as well as men), after British explorers .. brought back the practice to Britain. .. grew during the 19th century, and even Winston Churchill’s mother had a tattoo .. on her wrist. Queen Victoria was also believed to have had a tattoo of a Bengal tiger.. . From Victorian Europe...to America. In 1897, (art critic, Margot) Miffin says that an estimated 75% of American society women were tattooed.."

(Black Fire: Women, Tattoos, and the Transformative Power of Body Art )

Whether or not individuals like to have it done or not, historically at least it has been regarded as highly womanly. When my wife and I talked with a young lady with the whole of John 3.16 tattooed on her wrist area, from an historical perspective at least, the space that this occupied culturally would have been highly womanly.
 
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farouk

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I can appreciate the beauty of some of the art-work, laugh at some of the terrible art-work, appreciate the beauty of lovely Scriptural quote, not want to see a vulgar writing, laugh at misspelled writing...
@Taken It's not your thing, indeed...... :)

It's hard for others, however, to sustain the supposedly "not lady-like" thing (as discussed in the previous post's response to @dhh712 's thoughtful comments).
 

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@lightlysalted No comment required, Ziggy! :) but did you see the recent poll, above?
I would be supportive of the profession.
This reminds me of Ephesus. It wasn't that they were making idols of Diana that was in itself sinful. It was that they put their faith in the idols instead of God.
As long as your profession doesn't come between you and God, I don't see a problem.
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Well a lot of us from my church were lost and in darkness and came into Christianity already tattooed!

and the way I read that verse is not to tattoo yourself for the dead.
Yes, because it belongs to the darkness. Of course we all were once in darkness and had things to repent of when we came to Christ, but then we begin to learn and grow and walk in His ways, not our old ways.

All I can say is ask the Lord about it and exercise discernment.
 
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farouk

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I would be supportive of the profession.

Hi @lightlysalted Thanks for your vote, above, Ziggy.

I was interested to see this quote recently about the journey of Paula Castle into the tattooing profession.

Paula Castle took up tattooing after being made redundant from a sales job ..."I really did not want to do it. ...But I’m a bit of an all or nothing person so I said ‘yes’ and really pushed myself and I’ve not stopped...About 97% of my clients are female and that is universal across the board."
James McCarthy, Mirror dot co dot uk

Seems like she does not and did not wish to pursue it for its own sake, much less push it on others, but really for her it seems to be more of a professional role for herself with boundaries and she seems to see that for her clients it's for them to see and discover what they themselves make of it. Interesting also that 97% of her clients are female.
 

JohnPaul

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I guess I'm just wondering why anyone would want to vote in a poll that's just a reframing of the question that you ask incessantly.

If I didn't know better, I'd think you liked to see people get upset and argue.

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Yeah, Farouk is obsessed with tattoos, it's getting tiresome already.
 
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This thread grieves me, it just makes me feel so sad. Why do we want so badly to do as the world does? Do we honestly think it's the HOLY Spirit that is compelling people to get tattoos? Why have tattoos become so popular in a time when the church hast lost so much ground here in the west and judgment is hanging over our heads? Coincidence? I seriously don't think so. Please church, get some discernment, if the Spirit of God is within you. If anyone has discernment, what kind of vibes do you get walking past a tattoo parlour....not good ones, a feeling of evil and darkness....it's not of God.
 

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Jhn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

I'm just saying, I wouldn't go to war over it.
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farouk

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This thread grieves me, it just makes me feel so sad. Why do we want so badly to do as the world does? Do we honestly think it's the HOLY Spirit that is compelling people to get tattoos? Why have tattoos become so popular in a time when the church hast lost so much ground here in the west and judgment is hanging over our heads? Coincidence? I seriously don't think so. Please church, get some discernment, if the Spirit of God is within you. If anyone has discernment, what kind of vibes do you get walking past a tattoo parlour....not good ones, a feeling of evil and darkness....it's not of God.
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Well, I think that a lot of Christians would tend to find some faith based inkings to be wholesome and helpful testimony tools rather than soul destroying.....o hyphen awe dot blogspot dot


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So a lot of Christians have it done, and a lot of Christians would think that it can be done in ways and faith based designs that are gracious and wholesome; and it's likely they would welcome having a suitably skilled Christian tattoo artist do theirs also.

A lot of Christians have done it? Doesn't make it right.
Also the above tattoo on the lady's wrist when her arms are in their normal position hanging down that cross would be upside down.

Making it a Satanic symbol.
 

farouk

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A lot of Christians have done it? Doesn't make it right.
Also the above tattoo on the lady's wrist when her arms are in their normal position hanging down that cross would be upside down.

Making it a Satanic symbol.
Obviously not intended as such.

My wife and I talked to a young lady with the whole of the wording of John 3.16 on her wrist; her favorite Bible verse and mine, and I'm sure other conversations have arisen as a result of her willingness to go joyfully to the tattoo parlor.
 

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Well a lot of us from my church were lost and in darkness and came into Christianity already tattooed!

and the way I read that verse is not to tattoo yourself for the dead.
As was I and have two tattoos, which I regret getting, but I can't afford to have them removed, so I beg for forgiveness and repent.