Sinning with purpose is sinning with pleasure

Michiah-Imla · Sep 4, 2022

Blue Dragonfly's said:
Never let anyone tell you Jesus was not God.

Why?

Scriptures you cited didn’t say Jesus was God.

Bible Highlighter · Sep 4, 2022

Robert Gwin said:
Is the King James version of the Bible altered sir?

I believe God’s Word was purified seven times just as it says in Psalms 12:6-7. I believe that starting with the 1611 KJB, there were seven KJB editions (with the KJB Cambridge Edition 1900) being the final purification. The King James Bible is the first major Bible that went out to the hands of the common man in English (that was almost stop by the opposition by the Catholics). It was the dominant bible in English for hundreds of years. This makes sense because that is the goal of God’s Word is to reach lost souls. If one’s religion is so small and cultish to the point that it can truly have no impact in providing men in being without excuse then that religion fails. JW’s and Mormons are small cultish religions, and their influence is small and not great like the Holy Bible itself alone. That’s why your religion fails and is silliness. Even in the 1500’s the Bible’s leading up to the King James Bible had a great influence. But what of your religion at this time? Didn’t exist. Even in 1611 when the King James Bible came out… your religion did not exist. Then when it did exist… it came about by one man here in America. Like America has always been great when it comes to spiritual things? The Bible ends with us looking to the return of Jesus and there are no hints or fulfilled prophecies of some upcoming JW guy coming on to the scene, or some Mormon dude to be given the way for us to be guided. That’s why these religions again fail and are just plain stupid. They defy all logic where you just have to shut your brain off multiple times.

Blue Dragonfly's · Sep 4, 2022

Michiah-Imla said:
Why?

Scriptures you cited didn’t say Jesus was God.

Bible Highlighter · Sep 4, 2022

Robert Gwin said:
Both of those verses are altered BH, check an interlinear sir. Best worship the God of Jesus, because He was in heaven while Jesus was on earth, even speaking from heaven at Jesus' baptism.

Most interlinears favor the corrupt Alexandrian texts (Which is the origin of Arianism) which are the texts that most of all your Modern Bibles are primarily based upon. That’s why if you go to Biblehub Interlinear’s page, you will not see the word God mentioned in 1 Timothy 3:16 (When it talks about how God was manifest in the flesh). They are using the corrupt Alexandrian texts that Westcott and Hort used. This should be no surprise because Westcott and Hort were threatening to quit the Translation team if they could not have one of their Arian friends on their translation committee. Their attempt was to dethrone the KJB. Westcott and Hort were into Catholicism and other false beliefs.

One has to look to a different line of manuscripts (Like the Textus Receptus manuscripts) that has not been corrupted (Which is where we get the KJB from). Here are the verses in the Textus Receptus line of bibles. The words are intact in these bibles even dating way back before 1611.

Interlinear Bible: John 1:1 - Textus Receptus Bibles

Interlinear Bible: John 1:14 - Textus Receptus Bibles

Interlinear Bible: 1 Timothy 3:16 - Textus Receptus Bibles

The Modern Bibles based upon the false Alexandrian manuscripts add the devil’s name in the Bible where they do not belong, they attack holy living in certain places, they falsely remove fasting along with praying to cast out persistent demons from those who are demon possessed. Then there are the changes that favor the Catholic Church in Modern Bibles, as well.

Bible Highlighter · Sep 4, 2022

amigo de christo said:
the jw , mormon , CC and scores of others have been decieved . The truth is in that bible and i suggest we STICK TO IT .

Yes. I agree that the Bible is our standard for the faith. Well, I believe in “the Bible Alone + The Anointing to Understand It.” But no need to convince me, my friend. I am already convinced ten times over that God’s Word (the Bible) is the only guide for all matters of the faith and in doing the work of faith, for sure. Others will try and get us to move away from trusting the words of the Bible, but I would rather be a fool in the eyes of others for God, then to be in the favor of men.

Bible Highlighter · Sep 4, 2022

robert derrick said:
Now this is excellent. A very good insight how Jesus was indeed God in the flesh, but not God on the throne in the flesh.

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men.

Having no reputation would be having no preknowledge of all things? But although He did not have all omniscience as He did the Word in the beginning, He still knew He was that Word and equal with God His Father on the throne is the eternal Spirit and Life:

For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us.

As a child He grew in grace and knowledge of the Lord: HE was just as much a baby as anyone else. He was not conscious of Himself in the womb nor before knowing it like any other child. He also learned however quickly the wisdom and truth of Scripture.

And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.

Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.

This also agrees with the truth that Jesus was not as God on the throne in His glory, where He cannot be tempted at all, but was tempted in all points of all men with renewed but not perfected minds, where no tempting thoughts could appear at all.

Very good, thanks.

Thank you.

As for Luke 4:2, Luke 22:28, Hebrews 2:18, and Hebrews 4:15: Well, I don’t believe Christ had the capacity to potentially sin because He was God manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16). I believe these verses in Luke and Hebrews refer to those who were attempting to tempt or test Christ. In other words, Christ was only tempted in an external way by others and not that Christ literally had any wrong intentions or internal lusts inside Him to act upon. This is why the devil gave up in tempting Christ when he knew Jesus truly was the Son of God.

Hebrews 7:26 says,
“For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;”

Meaning, Christ is holy, undefiled, and separate from sinners.

But what about those verses that sound like Christ was being tempted?

Let me give you an example:

If you walked through a park downtown and somebody offered you some hot watches that you knew were stolen,

You would most likely
not be interested and say…

“No, thank you.”

Then later in the day:

You could say to your co-workers,

“Yeah, this guy in the park
tempted me to buy his stolen watches….”

But that does not mean you had any interested in the temptation given.
It would have been external temptation only by the guy selling the stolen watches.

Bible Highlighter · Sep 4, 2022

amigo de christo said:
the jw , mormon , CC and scores of others have been decieved . The truth is in that bible and i suggest we STICK TO IT .

Here is a Blogger article I created a while back on the many evidences that support the Bible as being divine in origin.

Love Branch: Evidences for the Word of God

Note: Please keep in mind that while I agree with the evidences to defend the Bible presented by Chuck Missler, Mike Hoggard, and others in the videos presented (in my Blogger article), that does not mean I agree with everything they teach or say (Especially when it comes to their view of salvation). I merely mention the article because it shows that the Bible alone truly is the only trust worthy source when it comes to knowing God and in walking with Him.

Bible Highlighter · Sep 4, 2022

Robert Gwin said:
Doesn't matter, neither Jehovah nor Jesus lie sir. As I pointed out, if Jesus were God, then he lied in those two passages, and our hope would be in vain.

The Bible identifies God's people beyond any doubt, would you care to discuss that or identify God's people?

I just explained to you that those two verses in no way shows that Jesus lied.

Jane_Doe22 · Sep 4, 2022

Always Believing said:
It looks like you're misunderstanding me a bit. I agree with you we should minister to all Christians alike, but there are those sects and groups that think they are the only right churches or organizations and so they act like missionaries to other Christians to convert them to their own proper faith. That is why Mormons ride around on Christian streets and JWs are knocking on doors. It's not to convert the atheists and unbelieving Muslims and Buddhist, but also to missionize other confessing Christians.

It's like the Pharisees did in Jesus' day. Their name literally meant separators or separatists.

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves. (Matthew 23.15)

They did among the Jews what Christians also began to do in Paul's day and still do today.

For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of Chloe's household, that there are contentions among you. Now I say this, that each of you says, "I am of Paul," or "I am of Apollos," or "I am of Cephas," or "I am of Christ." Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? (1 Cor 1.11-13)

When the Corinthians were saying I am of Paul, they were not just expressing more honor and appreciation for his ministry, but were taking a stand against Apollos and Cephas. Plenty of Christians identify as Baptists, Methodists, etc... but the separatists like Mormons and Catholics, and some holiness Pentecost groups, are not just standing for Christ, but are also standing against the Baptists and Methodists they think need to be converted and saved to their own true faith. That's the difference between preaching to all Christians and proselytizing other Christians.

Bible Highlighter said:
There are just some religious groups and or types of beliefs I strive to not debate with. No offense, but maybe others are more inclined to debate with you in showing how Mormonism and JW’s are a spoof on Christianity itself. At this time in my life: It is not my calling to debate with Mormons and JW’s to show them that their religion falls into the realm of absolute ridiculousness. I am not even interested remotely in doing that because there is no standard we can agree upon (i.e. like the Bible alone). I cannot show you the silliness of spiritual underwear and or how your organization used to think blacks were inferior (Among many other problems and obvious flaws in your organization). Only God can open your eyes to the truth with His Word (if you will be open to the truth someday).

I totally acknowledge your right to believe as you do and not wanting to debate. Totally acknowledged and respected. However, when your posts include mischaractures of what others believe then that becomes a problem. If you don’t want to talk about what others beleive, I recommend not including that.

Bible Highlighter · Sep 4, 2022

Jane_Doe22 said:
I totally acknowledge your right to believe as you do and not wanting to debate. Totally acknowledged and respected. However, when your posts include mischaractures of what others believe then that becomes a problem. If you don’t want to talk about what others beleive, I recommend not including that.

There are different factions of Mormonism. Are you truly aware of them all and their differing beliefs? Also, Mormonism has not always stayed the same in their beliefs over the years. One article states how they changed 100 things over the years. So I don’t really believe you are not unbiased on the matter. You are only speaking from your limited viewpoint or worldview. There are testimonies of ex Mormons of whom I trust more than what you say. Why? Because you are knee deep in your religion and you will bend over backwards to make it look good despite it’s problems (When I know your religion isn’t good).

Jane_Doe22 · Sep 4, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
There are different factions of Mormonism. Are you truly aware of them all and their differing beliefs? Also, Mormonism has not always stayed the same in their beliefs over the years. One article states how they changed 100 things over the years. So I don’t really believe you are not unbiased on the matter. You are only speaking from your limited viewpoint or worldview. There are testimonies of ex Mormons of whom I trust more than what you say. Why? Because you are knee deep in your religion and you will bend over backwards to make it look good despite it’s problems (When I know your religion isn’t good).

And you’re not biased at all…

Bible Highlighter · Sep 4, 2022

Always Believing said:
That is interesting. Not out in public. There is a difference between riotous living and drinking to excess in our own homes and there is also a difference between cursing and being foul in anger and hate. I can laugh along with another when they use words to describe something funny. I believe it is the spirit behind things that is most important and not the manner of expressing it with the present company in mind. I drink in public but don't get drunk but as you say at home I drink and don't worry so much about how much as long as I'm not making a mess of things.

I discuss the issue of drinking in my thread at CF here if you are interested.

6 Biblical Reasons Why Jesus Made Unfermented Wine (Grape Juice).

Robert Gwin · Sep 5, 2022

Always Believing said:
Preaching to all Christians the gospel of Jesus Christ is preaching to the churches but preaching to convert other Christians to your sect is proselytization and you are preaching as wrong Christians, which is the same as preaching to unbelievers in your own mind.

Why would Christians preach to each other sir? We were sent to teach those who are yet to be Christians, those rightly disposed to life. We are in fact commanded to make disciples, do you think Jesus was wrong in giving that assignment Mat 28:19,20? Why do you suppose you feel that way?

Robert Gwin · Sep 5, 2022

Always Believing said:
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Phil 2.9-11)

Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him. (John 5.23)

Anyone who thinks they are bowing to the Father as God and not to the Son also, is not honoring the Son as the Father, and is fooling themselves. If your God is not the Lamb and the Father, then your God is not my God. You can claim it, but that is like those who claim Jesus with some minor honor of their lips but deny Him His rightful Godly power above all powers:

lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. (2 Tim 3.4-5)

You only have a form of worship to God when you reject the Son as God and do not honor Him as the Father is God. In the site rules I read how we are not to doubt someone is a Christian if they claim to be one, which is fine by me because the only name in heaven and earth that I respect most is Jesus, and is also respecting the Father who gave His Son the name and declared that name to be above His own name. But that does not mean I have to fellowship with idolaters as brothers and sisters in the Lord Jesus. You are one of them that try to proselytize Christians to your own form of worship.

Every knee will bow to Jesus the Lamb as to God, and will finally honor Him as to the Father, but some too late. When we honor the Son we honor the Father, and when we honor the Father we honor the Son. Unbelievers can try to separate Them from One another in their hearts and minds, but God doesn't and never will. Lucifer was the first one to dishonor the Word and the Father and the Spirit.

Jesus' God is the Father's God and the Holy Spirit's God with Him. They are all three one God together and they all respect One another equally and their divine unity and oneness together. Like a faithful husband and wife respect each other equally and their marriage together, which they hold to as the most important thing in their life.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. (John 1.1-3)

For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. (2 Cor 4:6)

The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. (Gen 1.2)

God the Father and the Word and the Holy Spirit create all things when the Father commands the Word to speak and the Spirit does the work of the words spoken. It is the Spirit who made the body for the Son in Mary's womb when the Father commanded Him to become a man, and He obeyed and became flesh on earth, so that while a man He made Himself nothing like He was on the throne, because He became physical like all men and women. And now He is the only resurrected man in heaven back on the throne where He came from but now in an even more honored seat with Jesus the Lamb sitting on the right hand and the Father sits on the left hand. Jesus is given the place of higher honor than the Father, because of what He has done for all men on earth and died on a cross. If either of them are to be honored above the other, then is it the Son who sits in the highest place of honor forever, which is the right hand seat on the throne given to Him without remorse by the Father. And in the new heaven and earth it will only be God and the Lamb sitting on their throne.

That power is the same as the mighty strength he exerted when he raised Christ from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. (Eph 1.19-21)

Also the Lamb now has the honor of more power than the Spirit and the Father, because they gave it to Him to honor Him, and they did not begrudge it, because the Father loves the Son and the Son loves the Father. But His power is not more than God Himself who is altogether the Spirit and the Father and the Son. Only pagan idolators think in terms of a King God who is separate from and better than the other lesser gods.

There were also two Lords in the OT, Christ the Lord and the LORD Father and they had many names such as the Almighty to Abraham and Jehovah to Moses and now it is only the one name Jesus forever the Lamb of God and is above every name of God ever named by Him in the OT, the NT, and the new heaven and earth to come.

So stick that in your pipe and smoke it until you repent of rejecting Jesus Christ as Lord and God or at least stop trying to proselytize people like you tried with me in your sneaky manner. I would have respected you more if you just come out and say what you have to say and let the chips fall where they may. Don't bother trying it with me anymore because I don't argue about the Bible just for the sake of arguing. We will never agree on anything in the Bible in this matter. There are other things we can hash out but not this one and it is the first and most important one of all. All the rest are like sideshows to me.

You said:Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name

You are quite correct, now once again who is that God who exalted him?

Robert Gwin · Sep 5, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
I believe God’s Word was purified seven times just as it says in Psalms 12:6-7. I believe that starting with the 1611 KJB, there were seven KJB editions (with the KJB Cambridge Edition 1900) being the final purification. The King James Bible is the first major Bible that went out to the hands of the common man in English (that was almost stop by the opposition by the Catholics). It was the dominant bible in English for hundreds of years. This makes sense because that is the goal of God’s Word is to reach lost souls. If one’s religion is so small and cultish to the point that it can truly have no impact in providing men in being without excuse then that religion fails. JW’s and Mormons are small cultish religions, and their influence is small and not great like the Holy Bible itself alone. That’s why your religion fails and is silliness. Even in the 1500’s the Bible’s leading up to the King James Bible had a great influence. But what of your religion at this time? Didn’t exist. Even in 1611 when the King James Bible came out… your religion did not exist. Then when it did exist… it came about by one man here in America. Like America has always been great when it comes to spiritual things? The Bible ends with us looking to the return of Jesus and there are no hints or fulfilled prophecies of some upcoming JW guy coming on to the scene, or some Mormon dude to be given the way for us to be guided. That’s why these religions again fail and are just plain stupid. They defy all logic where you just have to shut your brain off multiple times.

An easy verse to see a deliberate manipulation is found at Ps 110:1 in the King James version of the Bible. Do you see the alteration, and do you understand why the translators manipulated the verse?

Robert Gwin · Sep 5, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
Most interlinears favor the corrupt Alexandrian texts (Which is the origin of Arianism) which are the texts that most of all your Modern Bibles are primarily based upon. That’s why if you go to Biblehub Interlinear’s page, you will not see the word God mentioned in 1 Timothy 3:16 (When it talks about how God was manifest in the flesh). They are using the corrupt Alexandrian texts that Westcott and Hort used. This should be no surprise because Westcott and Hort were threatening to quit the Translation team if they could not have one of their Arian friends on their translation committee. Their attempt was to dethrone the KJB. Westcott and Hort were into Catholicism and other false beliefs.

One has to look to a different line of manuscripts (Like the Textus Receptus manuscripts) that has not been corrupted (Which is where we get the KJB from). Here are the verses in the Textus Receptus line of bibles. The words are intact in these bibles even dating way back before 1611.

Interlinear Bible: John 1:1 - Textus Receptus Bibles

Interlinear Bible: John 1:14 - Textus Receptus Bibles

Interlinear Bible: 1 Timothy 3:16 - Textus Receptus Bibles

The Modern Bibles based upon the false Alexandrian manuscripts add the devil’s name in the Bible where they do not belong, they attack holy living in certain places, they falsely remove fasting along with praying to cast out persistent demons from those who are demon possessed. Then there are the changes that favor the Catholic Church in Modern Bibles, as well.

So getting right down to it the fact is Jesus is God or he isnt. I told you point blank that God spoke from heaven at Jesus' baptism, I told you Jesus had a God, and I told you Jesus stated very clearly who God is and that we are to worship Him and serve Him exclusively. I did so by Scripture. If you cannot believe God, then there is no sense in continuing to pursue the truth of the matter. Jehovah forces no one to serve Him sir, and you have every right to serve the god of your choice.

Robert Gwin · Sep 5, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
I just explained to you that those two verses in no way shows that Jesus lied.

No sir you didn't. You state Jesus is God, and if he is such, he point blank lied in those two verses, but that is not the worst of it, he intentionally did his utmost to deceive us into believing he was God's son, even ventriloquising the voice of God from heaven at his baptism. Frankly I do not believe you sir, and I choose to believe the Bible and the hope that it gives. We believe Jesus remained sinless, not the greatest deceiver in history.

Bible Highlighter · Sep 5, 2022

Robert Gwin said:
An easy verse to see a deliberate manipulation is found at Ps 110:1 in the King James version of the Bible. Do you see the alteration, and do you understand why the translators manipulated the verse?

No manipulation but in your own mind. In Psalms 110:1, God the Father is telling Jesus this. So when Jesus says, “But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give” this is in reference to how Jesus is saying that God the Father made that decision. But start another thread if you desire to attack the Bible. This really is not the topic of the thread.

Always Believing · Sep 5, 2022

Robert Gwin said:
Why would Christians preach to each other sir? We were sent to teach those who are yet to be Christians, those rightly disposed to life. We are in fact commanded to make disciples, do you think Jesus was wrong in giving that assignment Mat 28:19,20? Why do you suppose you feel that way?

I don't get into weird arguments of any kind. When I go to church, I go to be preached to by a Christian minister. That's why we go to church.

Always Believing · Sep 5, 2022

Robert Gwin said:
You said:Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name

You are quite correct, now once again who is that God who exalted him?

I also don't keep saying what I've already said. Reread what I wrote and you tell me. If you can't figure it out from all the words I wrote to you, then that's your problem.

Always Believing · Sep 5, 2022

robert derrick said:
Now this is certainly very interesting, and I've never quite heard it put this way. I do agree with the principle difference between loving to sin and hating to sin, but I always counted that as after the fact, because the pleasure of sinning is only for a sinning, and then comes the morning after.

Are you saying that while you are sinning, you are not enjoying it? What sinning are you talking about? Getting drunk? Fornicating? Stealing? I can believe it with the stealing, because Scripture speaks of how thieves can be almost excused for needing to eat. They don't like the stealing part, but do need to eat.

Do you have any Scripture that says enjoying sinning or not makes any difference to Jesus? Otherwise, you are adding your own interpretation of wilfilly sinning, rather than the simple one of doing something willingly, whether we like it or not, we are willing to do it. Not ignorantly.

However, there is this:

Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind.

Here we see willingly vs being forced into it, something we must do, but not really want to do, so in that case you could be correct, if you want to say the devil made me do it. You're doing it, but your heart and mind are not really in it.

I believe at least in part you may be right, in that Christians that sin can be doing so without gusto, although they can be the same for any sinner one earth.

It can also mean a Christian who has returned to the vomit like a dog all onboard for sinning again with abandonment of any pretense of the cross of Christ.

However, since sinning once with the devil is against God and has no forgiveness nor salvation, while willingly sinning, then the sacrifice of Christ to forgive sins is not present with that sinning soul that is, at that time, dead and separated from Christ.

I do agree you are correct at least about returning to our old life of all-out sinning, of liking it, loving it, and wanting more of it, without any regard to the will of the Lord.

I don't say the devil nor anything makes me to do anything but only because I choose to and I do not enjoy sinning while doing it, and I don't seek to sin and try to enjoy it as I used to. I do not believe I will return to my old life with gusto as you say, because I practice believing Jesus is the Christ and I am saved from that life of trying to sin as much as possible. And so I don't believe I am sinning with the devil anymore trying to be an enemy of God.

I do agree that while sinning I have no joy of the Lord and His salvation and must confess the sin from my heart so that I can confess Jesus' name without shame again. I only say I will sin again because I can't say I won't, but I can certainly say by faith that God will draw me to Him to confess and be forgiven and have the joy of salvation and His fellowship restored to me again.

I don't know of any Bible verses that makes difference between sinning withy gusto or without our hearts being in it, but only that it's a fact with me that I don't like sinning anymore even while doing it, but I just do it. If I get into a fight, I don't enjoy it, and so I only fight if I have to, and all fighting is not a sin. The Bible does say there is a difference between doing right as unto the Lord with a whole heart and not half heartedly.

And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance; for you serve the Lord Christ. But he who does wrong will be repaid for what he has done, and there is no partiality. (Colossians 3.23-25)

It looks like there is only difference between doing something with gusto or not is when doing something good for God, and if not then it is a sin, and doing wrong is just wrong. When I sin I still sin and know it is wrong and I am repaid with being separated from Jesus, whether I enjoyed it or not. I never said I was still a restored saved person while sinning, but only that I don't enjoy it but I still believe Jesus is the Christ and can confess it from the heart and be forgiven, which is why I am not of the devil when doing it.

I do not believe once we are saved we are always saved no matter what we are doing, but I am someone who once I believed in Jesus as the Christ and He saves me when I confess of sinning, then I will always believe that, because I make sure of it by exercising believing in Him all the time of the day. I even have dreams of believing Him. I am not always a Christian saint or a Christian sinner. I can still be double minded at times and I absolutely hate that as I always have in life, such as when I couldn't decide exactly what sinning to do.

Sinning with purpose is sinning with pleasure

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