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robert derrick said:

They were the only three men on the mount talking about the truth. Then Peter butted in and spoiled it.

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Funny how there were 3 talking.. Jesus, Moses, and Elijah. And 3 were with Jesus. Peter, James, and John.
And he asked if they should make tabernacles for them.
Tabernacles...
2Co 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

There were 3 that came to Abraham. The Lord and two other messengers and they were sent to Sodom to check out the scenery.
Just a couple days later, Jesus, James and John are headed to Jerusalem.
I find it interesting that Elijah's name comes up after they just witnessed them days prior.

Luk 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

We also know that Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed by fire falling from heaven.

I would venture to say that some "Spirits" have multiple existences.
That some even go up and down the ladder from time to time to intervene in humanity.
Jhn 1:51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.

Why did Moses and Elijah meet Jesus on the mountain?
Why was Peter, James and John allowed to witness that meeting?
Why would Peter think they would need tabernacles? Were they in flesh or spirit form?

Mar 9:2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
Mar 9:3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.
Mar 9:4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.

So it's after the 6th day.. that would be the 7th day right?

Deu 16:16 Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles: and they shall not appear before the LORD empty:
Deu 16:17 Every man shall give as he is able, according to the blessing of the LORD thy God which he hath given thee.

So Jesus is heading towards Jerusalem and it's the Feast of unleavened bread.
And all males must appear before the Lord in the place that he chooses on these specific days (nights)
Thus it becometh us to to fulfil all righteousness... which is what Jesus told John the Baptist prior to his being baptized with water.
Mat 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

So were Moses and Elijah simply fulfilling the law?

I'm sure someday we'll have all the answers.
Today is still fun searching them out.

Hugs

Blue Dragonfly's said:

You're JW?

Jesus was The Word made flesh. God, in human form yet without sin.

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Yes the word, not God. I just showed you the bible teaches God sent someone. That someone is his master worker of Prov 8. The one who was by Gods side during the creation process. He gives 100% credit to God for the creation.

face2face said:

Heaven going is nowhere taught in the Bible - full stop!
It's a figment of Christianity imagination - I have not idea where they got it from!
The meek will inherit the earth not heaven. Matthew 5:5
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Yes the great crowd of other sheep which no man can number will inherit the earth. The little flock( Luke 12:32) = 144,000( Rev 14:3) are numbered= the bride of Christ--These are promised heaven, to sit on thrones as kings and priests by Jesus' side( Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6) these are the ones to be changed in the twinkling of an eye( the remaining ones living during the tribulation)

BeyondET said:

If that is so then Jesus is just a doorway to the one and only Saviour God.

Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour.

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In Isaiah Jehovah was the only savior. When Jesus accomplished his ransom sacrifice he to became savior.

Keiw said:

In Isaiah Jehovah was the only savior. When Jesus accomplished his ransom sacrifice he to became savior.

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God knows everything even before the new testament and when God says he is the only Saviour its the truth.

In Isaiah He didn't say is the only Saviour until Jesus takes over

Keiw said:

Yes the word, not God. I just showed you the bible teaches God sent someone. That someone is his master worker of Prov 8. The one who was by Gods side during the creation process. He gives 100% credit to God for the creation.

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When you claim Jesus was not God, fully God and fully a perfect sinless ,an, you show you don't believe in either God or Jesus.

I tire of this nonsense.

BeyondET said:

God knows everything even before the new testament and when God says he is the only Saviour its the truth.

In Isaiah He didn't say is the only Saviour until Jesus takes over

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If God knows everything, Why did he ask satan where he came from in the job account? There are many things disguised in the bible, much symbolism. Do you know why? To keep satan and his angels in spiritual darkness. That way he couldnt obliterate it all into super confusion. Its already a mass of confusion( 34,000) different religions claiming to be christian, all claim to get holy spirit, yet all have different truths. According to 1 Cor 1:10--Jesus is with 1 single religion out of those 34,000. Yes mortals to. They must be taught by the teachers Jesus appointed to get truth.

Blue Dragonfly's said:

When you claim Jesus was not God, fully God and fully a perfect sinless ,an, you show you don't believe in either God or Jesus.

I tire of this nonsense.

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Here is what Jesus teaches on the matter--John 20:17, Rev 3:12--John 4:22-24-- Yes he was a sinless mortal who paid the wages of sin= death he did not owe= The ransom sacrifice. But the fact remains the bible is clear-God sent Jesus. God did not come himself.
Like at Rev 1:1 Did God say--here me have a revelation= No. There are 2 beings spoken of there, 1 is God, 1 is Jesus.

Anypne who says Jesus was a mere mortal is a liar. And the truth is not in them.

Keiw said:

Here is what Jesus teaches on the matter--John 20:17, Rev 3:12--John 4:22-24-- Yes he was a sinless mortal who paid the wages of sin= death he did not owe= The ransom sacrifice. But the fact remains the bible is clear-God sent Jesus. God did not come himself.
Like at Rev 1:1 Did God say--here me have a revelation= No. There are 2 beings spoken of there, 1 is God, 1 is Jesus.

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Blue Dragonfly's said:

Anypne who says Jesus was a mere mortal is a liar. And the truth is not in them.

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The bible teaches--God did all the powerful things through Jesus-Acts 2:22, 1 Cor 8:5-6-- Mortals cant kill God, they killed a mortal who was sent by God in perfection= sinless. He could have failed, that is why satan tempted him in the wilderness. God cant be tempted and satan knows that.
Yes one can lose salvation. One must believe Jesus on the matter he assures--One must endure until their end to be saved. Matt 24:13-- Endure what? Living now in this satan ruled system doing Jesus' Fathers will over their own will( Matt 7:21) i tell you this--the teachers that have Jesus teach exactly what Jesus taught. think about that.

Keiw said:

If God knows everything, Why did he ask satan where he came from in the job account? There are many things disguised in the bible, much symbolism. Do you know why? To keep satan and his angels in spiritual darkness. That way he couldnt obliterate it all into super confusion. Its already a mass of confusion( 34,000) different religions claiming to be christian, all claim to get holy spirit, yet all have different truths. According to 1 Cor 1:10--Jesus is with 1 single religion out of those 34,000. Yes mortals to. They must be taught by the teachers Jesus appointed to get truth.

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He allowed satan to say where he came from that has nothing to do rather God already knew.

Did God know what man was going to do before He created man?

Keiw said:

The bible teaches--God did all the powerful things through Jesus-Acts 2:22, 1 Cor 8:5-6-- Mortals cant kill God, they killed a mortal who was sent by God in perfection= sinless. He could have failed, that is why satan tempted him in the wilderness. God cant be tempted and satan knows that.
Yes one can lose salvation. One must believe Jesus on the matter he assures--One must endure until their end to be saved. Matt 24:13-- Endure what? Living now in this satan ruled system doing Jesus' Fathers will over their own will( Matt 7:21) i tell you this--the teachers that have Jesus teach exactly what Jesus taught. think about that.

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Jesus spirit can't be killed either and Jesus was in the Father and the Father kn Jesus even at the Crucifixion.

Keiw said:

The bible teaches--God did all the powerful things through Jesus-Acts 2:22, 1 Cor 8:5-6-- Mortals cant kill God, they killed a mortal who was sent by God in perfection= sinless. He could have failed, that is why satan tempted him in the wilderness. God cant be tempted and satan knows that.
Yes one can lose salvation. One must believe Jesus on the matter he assures--One must endure until their end to be saved. Matt 24:13-- Endure what? Living now in this satan ruled system doing Jesus' Fathers will over their own will( Matt 7:21) i tell you this--the teachers that have Jesus teach exactly what Jesus taught. think about that.

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Hmm so they killed a mere mortal Jesus?

BeyondET said:

Jesus spirit can't be killed either and Jesus was in the Father and the Father kn Jesus even at the Crucifixion.


Hmm so they killed a mere mortal Jesus?

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The bible teaches Jesus was in the grave( Hades) 3 days= dead. As for the part he was ministering to the spirits in Hades= symbolism. The bible teaches--On the day of ones death all thought stops. So if they could not think they wouldnt have a clue what Jesus was talking about if it were literal.

face2face said:

I've dealt with the symbology of the 144,000 many times. 12 x 12 Jew & Gentile etc. No need to add non Biblical notions to it.

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It also says-they would be virgins to women= not literal, Because every apostle is apart of the little flock-Peter was married thus not a virgin to women. Virgins to the false religions is the actuality of it. And The 12 tribes mentioned arent literal either-Israel religion is cut off of being Gods chosen, they have outright refused to do verse 39 at Matt 23:38-39 for over 1950 years, they never will. Jesus told them off in Matt 23--He assured them they were cut off in verse 38 unless they did verse 39. No one on earth understands revelation except the teachers who Jesus appointed-Matt 24:45

Keiw said:

The bible teaches Jesus was in the grave( Hades) 3 days= dead. As for the part he was ministering to the spirits in Hades= symbolism. The bible teaches--On the day of ones death all thought stops. So if they could not think they wouldnt have a clue what Jesus was talking about if it were literal.

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The bible teaches that all thoughts stop at death where is that at?

BeyondET said:

The bible teaches that all thoughts stop at death where is that at?

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Psalm 146:4

Keiw said:

Psalm 146:4

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That is mostly translated as plans, thought on what they might do.

Abels blood cried out to God for revenge. thoughts don't go silent.

They wait in revelation for the same revenge.