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God gives ministers to the body of Christ.
Some are chosen to be Evangelists, Pastors, and some are called to be Teachers.
This is a New Testament fact.

So, What we have to do, is understand how to not be deceived by a fake one, who is doing the devil's work.
I have written detailed Threads on this Forum...regarding "how to spot the heretic", "How to spot a dark light"., etc.
I teach how to KNOW what you are dealing with.... when someone tries to TEACH, and deceptively presents themselves as this POSITION, using a Pulpit or on a Forum.

Here is the 1st thing to find out, so that you know if you are dealing with a DECEIVER.

So lets look at it again.

Simple find out if they believe that JESUS DOES NOT KEEP THEM SAVED.

If they do not have faith in Christ to Keep them SAVED, then they do not actually trust IN CHRIST... they trust in themselves to get themselves into heaven.
You do not want THAT person, who has broken faith or NO faith, possibly a total Christian FAKIR to be teaching you the bible.

Now....Here is the END GAME revelation, regarding how to find out if the TEACHER is TRUE, or not.
Ask them.. ."do you believe and teach that SALVATION can be LOST".

If they say "sure", then you are dealing with a faithless, carnal, deceiver, who may be a real Christian, but they are "fallen from Grace" and have become a denier of the Cross of Christ, and an enemy of the Grace of God.
These people on a forum, will be found HOWLING about "OSAS" and "Hebrews 10:26"


Reader,

I hope you hear me., as if you can, you can protect yourself from these devil deceived people, ...2 Corinthians 11:14..... who live on forums, and also use PULPITS to try to keep you deeply deceived and away from God's GRACE and God's empowering of your Discipleship., as that is their "ministry".
They are a Dark Light.
They will teach you that you are supposed to be "sinning, and confessing, and repeating".

Luke 11:35
 
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Cos we are not saved until we die in Christ and in his grace!
Jn 15:1-5
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Acts 9:4 persecution against Christians is persecution against Christ! Unity with Christ and communion with the father and his saints

1 pet 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

1 pet 2:20 For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.

21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

2 Peter 1:3
According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

2 Peter 1:5
And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; (sure sounds like faith alone to me?)


Matt 24:13 endures to the end.

Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

Heb 6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:

1. Romans 11:22 – God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness

2. Colossians 1:21-23 – holy and blameless, if you continue in the faith"

3. The race of faith: the example of Paul

4. Hebrews 12:22-25: "we shall not escape if we turn away from Him"

5. Hebrews 4:1-3, 9-12: "strive to enter the rest of God"

6.Hebrews 6:4-9 – those who became partakers of the holy spirit and fell away

7. Hebrews 10:23-29, 35-39: "if we sin willfully", "if anyone draws back".

8. Matthew 24:13: He that endures to the end, the same shall be saved

9. Hebrews 3:4-6: Holding fast our confidence firm until the end

10. Matthew 24:13: "But the one who endures to the end will be saved"

11. 1 John 2:24-25 – "if what you heard from the beginning abides in you"

12. 2 John 8-9 : to "everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ

13. 2 Peter 1:5-11 : "Make every effort to supplement your faith"

14. Philippians 2:12-16: "work out your salvation with fear and trembling"

15. 1 Timothy 6:10-16: the love of money

16. Galatians 5:2-4 "Severed from Christ"

17. 2 Timothy 2:11-13: "if we deny him, he will also deny us"

18. James 5:19-20: the wandered brother

19. Some will abandon the faith

20. 1 Timothy 5:8: "he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever"

22. The real family of Jesus: "Those who hear the Word of God and do it"

23. 1 Corinthians 5:5: "so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord"

24. Peter 2: "It would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness"

25. Jude: "Turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness" - a much relevant warning

26. 1 Cor. 9:27 ....Lest I myself might become a castaway

27. Heb 1:14 shall be heirs of salvation

Romans 1:5
By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
(Must remain obedient)

(He who endured to the end) one who dies in a state of grace united to Jesus Christ by faith and baptism!
Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38 1 pet 3:21
Matt 24:13


Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

So salvation by “faith alone” is completely false and impossible if baptism is rejected!

“Faith alone” AVAILS NOTHING!!!
 

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Here is the 1st thing to find out, so that you know if you are dealing with a DECEIVER.

find out if they believe that JESUS DOES NOT KEEP THEM SAVED.

Jesus keeps me saved because I continue in the faith grounded and settled (Colossians 1:23).

Jesus keeps me saved because I obey him (Luke 6:47).

Jesus keeps me saved because I’m humble and continue in God’s goodness, not the evilness of the Devil (Romans 11:20-22).

Jesus keeps me saved because I don’t wilfully sin and mockingly walk all over him (Hebrews 10:26-29).

Jesus keeps me saved because I am his servant (John 8:34).

THE REAL DECEIVER WILL TELL YOU THAT JESUS KEEPS YOU SAVED WHILE YOU SIN AND MOCK HIM AND WALK ALL OVER HIM TRAMPLING ON HIM.
 
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Simple find out if they believe that JESUS DOES NOT KEEP THEM SAVED.

I would agree .... Jesus KEEPING one Sav-ED repeatedly is misconstrued.

Salvation IS a Gift. Salvation means SET “APART”.

JESUS IS Salvation...which means the setting “APART” is effected BY Jesus.

The “SETTING APART” expressly means that SOUL is FOREVER KEPT “WITH” the Lord God.

God “IS” a God OF “the LIVING”.

A Living Soul, Set Apart, By, Through, Of, Jesus, IS a Living Soul, that which SHALL Forever REMAIN a Living Soul and Forever BE WITH the Lord God.

A Living soul, is IN a Living Body (OF ALL Living men).

The LIFE of A man, is his BLOOD.

ALL Lives of ALL men, SHALL DIE, God requires it. God has ALREADY “
sentenced” ALL Lives (Blood) of ALL Men (Formed Body’s) SHALL Die.

Gen 9:
[5] And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

ALL souls Belong to God.
Ezek 18: [4] Behold, all souls are mine;

The LIFE IN ALL souls Belongs to God.
God GIVES INTO ALL (born alive men), A SOUL with His Breath.

Gen. 2:
[7b] (God) and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Ecc 12:7
[7] Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

ALL body’s (excusing the first man and woman)...ARE PRO-CREATED from mens SEEDS...Formed in Secret in the WOMB of a woman by THE hand of God.

GOD.....CREATED.....and MAKES “many things that APPLIES to the THINGS God Has CREATED...”

BODY...CREATED
BODY...MADE


Gen 2:
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

The LIFE of God....... Jesus IS the LIFE. John 14:6
The MAKER of God...Word (Jesus) IS the MAKER. John 1:3

God IS SPIRIT...God GIVING “INTO” a man, ANYTHING that Comes FORTH “FROM” WITHIN God, IS God “GIVING” that man “SPIRIT” of God.
ANYTHING that comes “FORTH” out From God IS “SPIRIT”
ANYTHING that comes “FORTH” out From God...REMAINS “IN” God..


Gods BREATH, Gods SPIRIT, Gods SEED, Gods WORD, Gods LIGHT, Gods POWER, Gods UNDERSTANDING, Gods LIFE, Gods GIFTS, Gods Blessing...
Etc.


REQUIRES an Understanding... OF man:
*** God....GIVES and God TAKES AWAY

***
WHAT, WHEN, WHY, God GIVES and WHAT, WHEN WHY, God Takes Away.
***

All born alive men...(Forms, called BODY’S) HAVE IN them; A soul WITH Gods Life.

All living souls SHALL Depart (mortally DEAD body’s) and SHALL go to WHERE God Sends THEM.

All living souls, SANCTIFIED (set APART) SHALL be escorted to Heaven, Gods Kingdom, and WAIT for the “official” Pronouncement of their PROMISED “SENTENCE”...

A living souls, NOT SANCTIFIED SHALL be sent to Hell, Gods Created PLACE, for Unsanctified souls to WAIT for the “official” Pronouncement of their PROMISED “SENTENCE”.

** THE WHAT, WHEN, WHY.....of Gods ORDER and WAY, is Expressly REVEALED IN the written Word of God.

A LIVING SOUL, given BY God, in a man...REMAINS A LIVING soul...(whether IN a mortally Living Body or OUT of a mortally dead body)
According TO Gods order and way.

ONCE the Lord SANCTIFIES, a LIVING SOUL...THAT SOUL IS SANCTIFIED, set apart UNTO God, and KEPT UNTO God “FOREVER” by the Promise of the Word of God....WHO IS JESUS....and the POWER of God....WHO IS CHRIST.

IS Sanctified-ED, is a Past Tense....Accomplish-ED, BY Christ Jesus.
** Gods CREATIONS (the Earth, mankind) GIVEN to mankind to freely have control and authority over.......have Certainly been corrupted, BY MAN.
** Gods MAKING and the control and authority OVER thereof..was Never Given to Man-kind.


There is NOTHING, NOT one IOTA a man CAN DO,
to KEEP or LOSE his (Given of the Lord God) and (Received of a soul In a man) SALVATION.

THE BECAUSE...is solely BECAUSE the KEEPING of a Sanctified soul:
is expressly By, Through, Of THE POWER OF GOD; Christ the Lord Jesus.

Eternal “GIVEN LIFE”, is not “ETERNAL” IF that LIFE CAN become DEAD.


Sanctified SOULS, are Forever Eternally ALIVE, exclusively BY the POWER of God....not man.
 
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Jesus told us how to spot a false preacher, a wolf in sheep's clothing: you will know them by their fruits.

The scribes and pharisees would "devour the houses of widows" -- likely finding vulnerable elderly people who are concerned about the next life and then demanding expensive donations from them in exchange for bogus teachings about washing pots and pans to become spiritually clean. They are only after money and admiration, wearing long robes and all sorts of holy doodads so everyone will recognize them as a holy man, but it is all for attention.

On the other hand, a good teacher is one who produces fruits of patience, kindness and love, and asks for nothing, and has no desire except to share his wisdom to anyone who comes to him.
 

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Sanctified SOULS, are Forever Eternally ALIVE, exclusively BY the POWER of God....not man.

Being born again, can't be changed, undone, or ended.
A Born AGAIN Spirit, not the body, but the SPIRIT, is the real, and this has been joined to God.
Can't be ended.
Can't be undone.

You can't stop being BORN. and you can't stop being BORN AGAIN.......and that does NOT mean being water baptized.
 
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Jesus told us how to spot a false preacher, a wolf in sheep's clothing: you will know them by their fruits.

Listen Adam,

The Devil read that verse long before you did.
Understand?
So, he knows that you are looking for "christian behavior", as you took that verse literally but not spiritually.

His people FAKE IT,

So, That is what the devil understands about you, and about believers, and that is why you have to read what PAUL wrote, to understand what Jesus SAID.

Paul said that the DEVIL will come to YOU, as an ""angel of LIGHT, and his Ministers as "ministers of Righteousness".

FAKE CHRISTIANS, that teach BIBLE and pretend to know GOD.

What does that mean?
It means that the devil and his owned will talk about righteousness and sin, according to the Old Testament LAW and COMMANDMENT KEEPING and SELF EFFORT.
THey will talk about salvation, and heaven, and the bible, but not in a way that represents the GRACE of God, or the Cross of Christ, correctly, in Truth.

Not only can they not teach it, they cannot HEAR IT.

So, this is why i have taught all over this world and on every forum that ive been able to join, that when a person is deceived by the devil they will not be able to accept that """"""SALVATION is a GIFT""""", and they will teach that you can lose your salvation.

These are DARK LIGHTS........= they have a light, a revelation, but its not according to GOD's Truth, yet, they believe it is.
Jesus said of them.....these forum members, and these Pulpit Preachers and these DENOMINATiONs....

= LUKE 11:35.

Their LIGHT is DARKNESS that pretends to be "bible". Their preaching pretends to be TRUTH. Their CULT pretends to be the "way".

Its not, and you recognize them by one thing.. always.

Do they believe they can lose their salvation. ??
If they do, then they do not trust in Christ who is Himself SALVATION.
If they believe that salvation has to be kept, and earned...., then they are DECEIVED and will preach Deception., as a "minister of righteousness".
 
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Being born again, can't be changed, undone, or ended.

True.

But a born again Christian can suffer the fate of the un-born again if he returns to sin.

“But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.” (Luke 12:45-46)
 
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His people FAKE IT
Tell me which is a better man:

A man who is kind and loving to all, who sacrifices from himself daily for those less fortunate, and does not judge or condemn others. But he might not see eye to eye with you on all scriptural interpretations.

OR

A man who is cruel and hateful, who does nothing for others but constantly makes hypocritical boasts. But he interprets scriptures the way you like him to.

The Devil will produce the second, not the first. The first shows fruits of the holy spirit, the second does not.


Matthew 7:15-20​

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
 
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Matthew 23
23 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
*A deceiver does not live as they preach but will overcomplicate faith in God with all sorts of doctrines and obligations that they impose on others

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
*A deceiver makes a big show about being a holy man and seeks respect from others with elaborate robes and titles, but lacks humility in serving others

13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Woe 1: he tells people they won't go into heaven unless they follow him

14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
Woe 2: Take money from the vulnerable in exchange for holy services like prayer

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Woe 3: Work hard to find converts, but it is only to expand their own soulless ministry, not for the convert's benefit

16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.

19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.

21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.

22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
Woe 4: Constantly lawyer and debate over definitions and doctrines and the letter of the law, but lack the spirit of the law.

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Woe 5: Think that paying tithes and visiting the temple makes them righteous, but not following the humane teachings of goodness towards others.

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Woe 6: Obsessed with rituals and repetitions that they think makes them clean but do not attempt to cleanse themselves of sinful behavior and thoughts

27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Woe 7: Obsessed with the appearance of holiness

29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Woe 8: (the biggest woe): they think they are the judges of who is righteous and who is not. They praise the saints of old, saying they would not have persecuted the saints as others did -- and at the same time they condemn the saints of the present, not recognizing them for who they are!
 
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But a born again Christian can suffer the fate of the un-born again if he returns to sin.

You are always talking about sin.
So. If you didn't have an issue with it, you would not talk about sin, in nearly every post.
See the problem?
Michiah-imla, The reason you have an issue with it, that causes you to continually post about sin, is because you do not understand salvation.
If you understood it, you would not be posting about sin, constantly.
Thats a fact.

Listen,

There are no born again in Hell.
There are no unbelievers in Heaven.
 

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“A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.” (Proverbs 14:16)

You post too much about sin.
The reason you do, is because you do not understand the shed blood of Jesus or the Grace of God that is found as the blood atonement.

When you read Romans 4:8, that teaches the believers that God does not charge them with sin..
And when you read 2nd Corinthians 5:19, that Says that God was in Christ not charging the WORLD with sin, (if they believe) you are reading an unknown bible, as this Grace of God, is not known to you yet, Michiah-Imla.
 

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I think the best way to know if someone is preaching the truth is to see if it matches scripture.

For instance, most people believe in a forever Hell because that's what their church leaders erroneously told them. Careful examination of scripture demonstrates that teaching to be FALSE.
 
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