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This isn't easy to talk about. I decided to do this. Everyone who goes through these struggles is going to be different.



I felt like the first person. I've been mad at God. I have been in a situation that I've been in for a year now. I reached a breaking point. It is going on forever, and seems like it doesn't end. The more it goes on the worse it gets. I'm out of patience with it. This has gone on for too long.

I hate the place I'm in. It's stupid and boring. I've been losing my way. I have pleaded to God to resolve the issues I took to him. I need to be relieved of what I've been going through.

Another thing. Whenever something good happens in my life, something bad happens or it gets taken away. I want this to change.
 

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I find sometimes I don't understand why he doesn't help me too but I keep the faith. I can only guess that I'm just not doing good enough as a Christian due to my medications and that's why he isn't helping me either. I feel God has been very loving to me though. Don't forget all that he has done for me or has given to you or protected you from, sometimes you don't know what's behind the scenes when he's working behind the scenes. Keep the faith.
 
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A friend of mine was going through a veritable cheese grater what with all the devastations that hit his life on a constant and for years.

In the midst of the worst of it he said he stopped praying, begging for relief, when he remembered God said in his own words he's always at the controls. And as such arrived at the conclusion he stuck with to this day.
It's called faith.
Not fact.

Trust and let God believe in us for a change and see how that works out. Because God knows he's God. We don't need to keep reminding him.

After he arrived at that resolve his life changed for the better.

When things get tough on my end I remember that. Then I give him a call.
 

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I find sometimes I don't understand why he doesn't help me too but I keep the faith. I can only guess that I'm just not doing good enough as a Christian due to my medications and that's why he isn't helping me either. I feel God has been very loving to me though. Don't forget all that he has done for me or has given to you or protected you from, sometimes you don't know what's behind the scenes when he's working behind the scenes. Keep the faith.
God is constantly knocking on our door....he is respectful and doesn't just barge in. We, on the other hand, don't open the door because we assume it will cost something that is a favourite of ours.....even though we give lip service to wanting his guidance. We even have the front to think that God is a trader ie, he only blesses us when we are what we think is good. In the meanwhile he waits at the door and weeps because we paint him with our values.
 

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This isn't easy to talk about. I decided to do this. Everyone who goes through these struggles is going to be different.



I felt like the first person. I've been mad at God. I have been in a situation that I've been in for a year now. I reached a breaking point. It is going on forever, and seems like it doesn't end. The more it goes on the worse it gets. I'm out of patience with it. This has gone on for too long.

I hate the place I'm in. It's stupid and boring. I've been losing my way. I have pleaded to God to resolve the issues I took to him. I need to be relieved of what I've been going through.

Another thing. Whenever something good happens in my life, something bad happens or it gets taken away. I want this to change.

It’s a conundrum. And we can become Logically Mindful thinking on trying this, trying that, and STILL always seeming to end up on the crap end of experience after experience and YET knowing the Power of God could instantly change everything.

The FACTS are...simple.
We as mortals have Freewill to choose this or that.
And the Majority of mortals Want; things, comforts, money, luxury, control, safety, healthy, quick, easy... AND the MAJORITY are willing to gain those things...BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE! ... honestly, uprightly, long efforts, conniving, underhandedly, corruptly....AND WHO IS WHO?
IS the dilemma.

The upright AND the corrupt CAN EACH “APPEAR” very appealing...
Look well dressed, smiling, friendly, say the words you want to hear ...
AND...Hook you.
AND...How to NOT “get hooked” by a Fraud?

Remember... Everyone HAS Freewill. The Majority ARE Underhanded!
Remember... Knowledge and Truth ARE Power.
Remember... Test Everything, BEFORE you jump on board.

* God gives men A Promise. WITH HIM, He WILL comfort you THROUGH all the crap and tribulations underhanded men (the Majority) will by every conceivable manner dump upon you.
...(This is important...WITH Him, is Conditional. Because as long as YOU ARE “WITH” Him, He shall be “WITH” you. And IF at any time, you freely choose, IT IT EASIER to “go along” with the corrupt...YOU have freely chosen to NOT be “WITH” Him...and? He, as well, shall be no longer BE WITH you.

* God gives men A Greater Promise. WITH and IN HIM and He IN you...AND? He Shall NEVER Leave you.
* oooh, oooh, Does that mean, Corrupt underhanded men no longer have sneaky, deceptive power to deceive you? No.

* What that means is; It’s a spiritual MAKEOVER for you, AND Gods Power...not only WITH you, BUT IN you, guiding you Spiritually, with the thoughts of your Heart, RATHER than you struggling trying to figure out WHO to trust or not, IN this world, by the thoughts of your MIND.

* You still have control over the thoughts of your MIND, and the influences of upright men and wicked men telling you this and that, that your mind ponders and tries to guess Who is Who, upright or wicked, and how it will affect you, to go along, jump on board, be hooked.

* However WITH AND IN God and Gods Power IN you, the whole scenario Changes. Gods Thoughts are being FED to the thoughts of your Heart. And YOU have the power to listen to your Hearts Thoughts OVER the Thoughts of your MIND.

* So HOW TO Receive this Great Promise From God?
# 1.... BELIEF in God, which is the SAME requirement for men TO HAVE God WITH them. Believe, and God shall be with you. Stop Believing and God shall leave you.
# 2.... Heartfully CONFESS BELIEF in God to Christ the Lord Jesus...
The scenario has Drastically Changed...YOU have just Confessed, belief, IN God AND the One He Sent, Christ the Lord Jesus...!!
......AND SO WHAT? SO happens, Jesus IS the Word of God, Christ IS the Power of God, Christ IS the Seed of God, Christ Jesus IS the:
* Forgiver, Word, Savior, Quickener, Separator, Keeper....AND?
......WHICH means, UNSEEN by all earthly mens eyes......
Your sins against God are forgiven, your soul is restored forever alive, your spirit is born again of Gods seed to forever life, you are separated from all men without God, the Lords Power keeps you forever WITH God......He shall redeem you in a body that shall never die....
.....AND His Word, His Power, dwell IN you......and there you NOW have Him guiding you through the Thoughts of your Heart, that YOU can Control OVER the thoughts of your MIND.
....AND what is THAT advantage? Your MIND is bombarded daily with Upstanding mens thoughts and ideas, as well as Wicked mens thoughts and ideas, that you hear, ponder, guess, WHO is WHO, upright, wicked, true, lying........AND God All Knowing, Feeding your Hearts thoughts, WITH truth, righteousness, guidance for the BEST outcome....
AND you with the power....to Listen and Do as your MIND dictates...or Listen and Do as your HEART dictates....

IF you BELIEVE, yet are still struggling, expecting, hoping God to jump in an intercede, and fix all your woes....He never promised that....
......And you are vulnerable, STILL trying to Figure out things in YOUR MIND and still able to become so Disappointed, you Leave Him, stop believing....and He WILL as well leave you.

IF you BELIEVE, yet HAVE NOT, called on Him, Heartfully Confessed Your BELIEF, He’s NOT IN you. He is not feeding your Hearts thoughts, FOR YOU to freely exercise your power to Listen to your hearts thoughts OVER your Minds confused, debating, trying to logically decide between this and that.

OUR MINDS are LOGICAL...this or that, this or that, this or that...what makes the most SENSE, and hope you pick the right way.

God IS SPIRIT...there is no, this or that.....right or wrong.....God will ONLY feed your hearts thought, RIGHT, TRUTH, GOOD.
WILL Everything BE perfect? No. Right, Truth, Good, Comforting? Yes.

Without the Eyes OF the World, peering, watching, sneaking under cover and surveilling every move a man makes......
God IS CHANGING MEN on the INSIDE, their unseen soul, their unseen spirit and Gods unseen Power....and the wicked men OF this world can neither SEE that or DO a damn thing about it to stop it.


May God Bless you abundantly,
Taken

 

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This isn't easy to talk about. I decided to do this. Everyone who goes through these struggles is going to be different.



I felt like the first person. I've been mad at God. I have been in a situation that I've been in for a year now. I reached a breaking point. It is going on forever, and seems like it doesn't end. The more it goes on the worse it gets. I'm out of patience with it. This has gone on for too long.

I hate the place I'm in. It's stupid and boring. I've been losing my way. I have pleaded to God to resolve the issues I took to him. I need to be relieved of what I've been going through.

Another thing. Whenever something good happens in my life, something bad happens or it gets taken away. I want this to change.

I very deeply connect with you in this. I became worn down with my difficulties this past week and I cried out bitterly. I made enough to pay the most pressing bills but had 67 cents left over, none left for food or gas or heartworm pills for my dog. I do trust God, so I think He’s doing what is best for me and what’s best for me must be leanness right now. But it’s been leanness for so long now that it wore me down. There’s never quite enough for all of my bills AND for my needs. I live so simply and so hand to mouth that there’s nowhere to cut any frills. There just are no frills. But I don’t want any frills. I’m quite okay with no frills. I don’t like to go on vacations or go out to restaurants. So my complaint wasn’t over frills but over needs.

A day after my bitter complaints, I found out that I had sold 700.00 in that same day I had complained. Of course, then I felt awful for complaining to Him. An hour or two after that, I was watching something and an actor said: you had a misstep but you were headed in the right direction and that counts for something. At that very moment, I had those goosebumps and waves so I sat thinking. My complaining was a misstep but I was heading the right direction, which was talking to Him about my problems, and heading in the right direction counts for something with Him.

I don’t know why it always has to be so hard. And I usually just motor through and keep trusting Him that He knows what I need. But sometimes I just…crumple under how difficult it is to be physically poor.

I wish He would send someone in here to counsel us but the only way I know is to just get back up from a misstep and stumble and return to brave trust.
 

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Thank you for your opinion.
However, the Jury is out.
I vote that we get the life you choose, and that can hurt.

What i can tell you is that the devil is real, and he'll bring you some trouble, and sometimes people blame God.
Very common.

So, i didnt accuse the OP of causing the issue.
I said that its fair to let us know why you believe God caused the issue, IF you are blaming God.
You dont like that concept i noticed, but that is the reality check.

It’s not necessarily God CAUSING something to befall us. Sometimes (as with Job) it’s God ALLOWING/PERMITTING it. So it would be wrong to counsel that Job, or the op, got what they chose in life. God permits whatever will grow our trust and draw us closer to Him.

I’m not poor because I chose that life. The op hasn’t chosen his hardships. Job didn’t choose his hardships and losses. God permits some things for our sifting, so we will come out pure. They are painful. It’s not a time to blame a mans choices when he is being sifted.
 

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You are impossible to speak with. I only answered you in order to help build up the op’s trust and to try to help someone whose feet were slipping, whose knees were shaky, whose resolve to keep trusting was worn down. We all struggle in that.

The two short videos were helpful to trust. That is what edifying means - building up trust (faith).
 
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I very deeply connect with you in this. I became worn down with my difficulties this past week and I cried out bitterly. I made enough to pay the most pressing bills but had 67 cents left over, none left for food or gas or heartworm pills for my dog. I do trust God, so I think He’s doing what is best for me and what’s best for me must be leanness right now. But it’s been leanness for so long now that it wore me down. There’s never quite enough for all of my bills AND for my needs. I live so simply and so hand to mouth that there’s nowhere to cut any frills. There just are no frills. But I don’t want any frills. I’m quite okay with no frills. I don’t like to go on vacations or go out to restaurants. So my complaint wasn’t over frills but over needs.

A day after my bitter complaints, I found out that I had sold 700.00 in that same day I had complained. Of course, then I felt awful for complaining to Him. An hour or two after that, I was watching something and an actor said: you had a misstep but you were headed in the right direction and that counts for something. At that very moment, I had those goosebumps and waves so I sat thinking. My complaining was a misstep but I was heading the right direction, which was talking to Him about my problems, and heading in the right direction counts for something with Him.

I don’t know why it always has to be so hard. And I usually just motor through and keep trusting Him that He knows what I need. But sometimes I just…crumple under how difficult it is to be physically poor.

I wish He would send someone in here to counsel us but the only way I know is to just get back up from a misstep and stumble and return to brave trust.
(my highlighting of your text)
And if he did send someone in to counsel you and the counsel wasn't what you'd hoped for or expected what then?

Here is Jonah....a prophet? he gets sent to Nineveh to deliver a message. Jonah is enthusiastic as well as knowing the Ninevites. He's been sent by God and figures that must count for some cred. After his delivery he heads out; gets himself comfortable and waits for the fireworks display....of which he is sure will be delivered.
It doesn't happen and he is pis.ed. Did he figure God owed him?

Here is Elijah, bold as a peacock in the face of a Nation. God delivers with fire on Elijah's altar so Elijah figures he has the right to wholesale murder and engages enthusiastically....430 slain...... Then one woman threatens him and he runs for for his life but his ego has not abated. Some months later some soldiers find him, 51 in fact and he calls for fire to fry them.....and it does. We assume this is from God. It happens a second time. Zap, another 51 fried to a crisp. The third attempt by Ahab (the King) to send another lot of 51 has the Captain begging for his own life and the life of his men and Elijah's ego is satisfied.....he obliges and goes with them.

What am I trying to say? I'm saying we need be careful how we hear/understand/interpret......even/particularly when God is right beside us.
 
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You are impossible to speak with. I only answered you i

You said the "op" has not chosen their Hardship.
Can you show me a photo of your Crystal Ball?

Listen.
i didn't accuse the OP.
I said that most of the time when WE < find ourselves in a issue, its because of a Choice.. a decision.

Consider :

Hyper-Calvinists, teach and believe that God causes everything, including evil.
So, if your life is on fire, if you are destroyed........then according to Hyper Calvinist's. "God caused it".

So, there is always more to the story than just the problem.

So, i'll tell you what..
I have no issue with deleting all that i have written., previously.
Let me go do that now, for you.
 
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You said the "op" has not chosen their Hardship.
Can you show me a photo of your Crystal Ball?

Listen.
i didn't accuse the OP.
I said that most of the time when WE < find ourselves in a issue, its because of a Choice.. a decision.

Consider :

Hyper-Calvinists, teach and believe that God causes everything, including evil.
So, if your life is on fire, if you are destroyed........then according to Hyper Calvinist's. "God caused it".

So, there is always more to the story than just the problem.

So, i'll tell you what..
I have no issue with deleting all that i have written., previously.
Let me go do that now, for you.

You helped me here to see where your mind was as you were posting. I appreciate that.

It’s like every argument in here, isn’t it? Either my hardships and losses are caused by me or are caused by God, or caused by satan, that’s the three views. You are absolutely right that there’s always more to the story than just the problem. There’s more than one ball to juggle. I often find myself in the situation where I’ve dropped one of the balls and it gets me in a jumble.

We have men being swallowed up by the earth by God.
We also have Job, where God permitted satan, and the man in the NT who satan asked permission to sift and it was allowed.
We do also have suffering we can cause for ourselves. If my engine blows up because I didn’t keep oil in it, it’s my fault.

It’s difficult to juggle all the balls without dropping any. I sometimes feel no guilt when I should. Other times, I feel guilt I shouldn’t. Sometimes God causes. Sometimes God permits but doesn’t cause (but always with my good in view even though it seems it couldn’t possibly be). Sometimes I cause a problem.

The op was just in a shaky and worn down place with his trust. It’s just how it works that for trust to grow it has to be tested. And we are so weak of ourselves. Even when we get to a place of strong trust, we are apt to tire and faint and stumble if a trial continues a long time and we get cranky with God, which we later regret. But I know no other way than to put it before God and cry out, regardless of who caused it or permitted it.
We need times of refreshing and times of peace in storms. And sometimes we don’t go to Him because we feel…guilty to ask for help when He’s done so much for us already and we think it would be a lack of trust to ask for anything else since we know He knows what we have need of. I think He might prefer that we cry out in bitter complaint and tears than try to knuckle through ourselves.

Come let us reason together requires two.

I’d rather spend one morning struggling with this in here with you guys than spend days on arguments that don’t practically help me in building up my trust!
 
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@Behold had mentioned Job and Satan.
I think Job's experience shows us Satan can only go as far as God permits.

Yes! And he even has to get permission!
That’s why I came to the conclusion awhile back that there wasn’t even any need to try to determine if satan was doing something to me or not. Even if he is, God will work it for my eternal good. Satan might be doing something that God permitted, but even though satan means it for my downfall, God means it for my good!
Satans trying to steal while Gods laying up eternal treasures for me.

Maybe it really is a stone, I don’t know, but if it is, I reckon God will turn the stone INTO bread. :)
 

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Yes! And he even has to get permission!
That’s why I came to the conclusion awhile back that there wasn’t even any need to try to determine if satan was doing something to me or not. Even if he is, God will work it for my eternal good. Satan might be doing something that God permitted, but even though satan means it for my downfall, God means it for my good!
Satans trying to steal while Gods laying up eternal treasures for me.

Maybe it really is a stone, I don’t know, but if it is, I reckon God will turn the stone INTO bread. :)
your trust is beautiful sbg.
 

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your trust is beautiful sbg.
Temptations to stop trusting and trials to trust show whether your trust is genuine or not. Your trust is being tested and that trust is far more precious than gold. When it remains strong through these trials, it will bring you praise, honor and glory on the day when Jesus is revealed to the world. Run to win your race of trust. Don’t let your crown be stolen.
 
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@ShineTheLight

I pray things improve for you.

But also keep in mind:

“For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.” (Romans 8:18)

“For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory” (2 Corinthians 4:17)

“Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.” (Colossians 3:2)
 

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I felt like the first person. I've been mad at God. I have been in a situation that I've been in for a year now. I reached a breaking point. It is going on forever, and seems like it doesn't end. The more it goes on the worse it gets. I'm out of patience with it. This has gone on for too long.

I hate the place I'm in. It's stupid and boring. I've been losing my way. I have pleaded to God to resolve the issues I took to him. I need to be relieved of what I've been going through.

Another thing. Whenever something good happens in my life, something bad happens or it gets taken away. I want this to change.
If you're angry at God about your circumstances, you have something in common with some of the Biblical writers. One of the things I love about the Psalms is the brutal honesty about the human condition. Take Psalms 22:

My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from my cries of anguish?

My God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, but I find no rest.


That's the NIV version; translated into Lambano-ese, it would read, "God, where the hell are You??? I'm hurting, and you don't seem to give a damn!" There's more of these in the Bible; Psalms 13 comes to mind.

I think it's okay to be mad at God. It's good that you're honest about it, because He already knows how you feel. He's a big God; He can take it. If you remember the Jonah story Quietthinker referred to, you'll notice that when it was over, God was very gracious with Jonah in sitting down with him and explaining what He was doing and why.

I also hope you notice in these angry Psalms, the Psalmist always incorporates a note of ultimate trust in God. If you take nothing else away from this post, I hope it's trust. The only alternative I see is a life cynicism and despair. I don't know how to get you back to Oregon. I don't know how you can get a life independent of your parents. I don't know why bad **** happens; folks who are a lot smarter and a lot more spiritual than me have contemplated that for centuries and haven't come up with a satisfactory answer. All I know is that **** happens and we have to deal with it. One of our jobs as Jesus's people is to help each other carry the load.
 

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God has helped me a lot recently with eye contact difficulty. I did well at my group walk. I was cautious not to appear anxious. I feel loved by God and am praying for not having eye contact anxiety at all anymore. I think what you've talked to me about is that your fear is stopping you. Perhaps anxiety. Here the Christians can pray for you. I prayed for you.
 
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God has helped me a lot recently with eye contact difficulty. I did well at my group walk. I was cautious not to appear anxious. I feel loved by God and am praying for not having eye contact anxiety at all anymore. I think what you've talked to me about is that your fear is stopping you. Perhaps anxiety. Here the Christians can pray for you. I prayed for you.

I have that eye contact problem too. I never understood why. but I did note that other people notice it.

But the other day I realized I do the no eye contact so I can’t catch the brief but awful flashes of…hatred and anger that flare in the eyes of the relative who raised me. It feels…reptilian almost. I’ve seen awful things in peoples eyes. You catch it and then it’s quickly covered by them and it feels yucky and like something I want to avoid seeing. It looks so dark and untruthful and….yeah, reptilian.

I took the no eye contact thing, which is a…defense mechanism learned in childhood, out into the world. I applied it to everyone. I guess since my own relative was not safe for me my inner child assumed no one was?
 
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