When Jesus said, “there is none good but one, that is, God.” did He mean nobody could be good?

BeyondET · Sep 19, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
Not at all. Jesus is not saying He is not good in Mark 10:18.

Hebrews 7:26 says this about Jesus:

“For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless,
undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;”
(Hebrews 7:26).

So Jesus did not mean what he said? How in the world can you say that, I can only guess its because you don't want it to mean what it says.

Only the good shepherd is good, God.

BeyondET · Sep 19, 2022

For he is our God, we are the people he shepherds, the sheep in his hands. (Psalm 95:7)

Bible Highlighter · Sep 19, 2022

BeyondET said:
So Jesus did not mean what he said? How in the world can you say that, I can only guess its because you don't want it to mean what it says.

It would be like Clark Kent saying, “Why do you say that I am able to leap tall buildings in a single bound?" “Nobody is able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, except Superman.”

To ask a question is not lying. And it is true. Clark Kent is not known for doing those things. Only Superman is. Yet, they are the same person.

You said:
Only the good shepherd is good, God.

Right. Jesus flat out says, I am the good shepherd.
So Jesus says He is the good shepherd which makes Jesus God.

face2face · Sep 19, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
Not at all. Jesus is not saying He is not good in Mark 10:18.

Hebrews 7:26 says this about Jesus:

“For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless,
undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;”
(Hebrews 7:26).

No, Jesus is saying there is nothing inherently good in him and that any goodness he has, is not his, but God's!
John 10:11 is speaking to the work God has done in Christ...i.e we are the sheep, the sheep that belong to the shepherd. So let us echo the sentiments of this verse, and be prepared to shew forth God's praise to all generations. Psalms 145:4, Isaiah 43:21, John 10:11-18.
You are still misrepresenting and misquoting Scripture to confirm your own bias.
Don't do that!

BeyondET · Sep 19, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
It would be like Clark Kent saying, “Why do you say that I am able to leap tall buildings in a single bound?" “Nobody is able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, except Superman.”

To ask a question is not lying. And it is true. Clark Kent is not known for doing those things. Only Superman is. Yet, they are the same person.

Right. Jesus flat out says, I am the good shepherd.
So Jesus says He is the good shepherd which makes Jesus God.

If you have seen Clark Kent then you have seen Superman for they are both one in the same.

face2face · Sep 19, 2022

BeyondET said:
Hmm is this a contradiction?

Mark 10:18
And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good, except God alone.

John 10:11
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.

Not a contradiction - just different verses with different context and lessons to be understood.
James 1:17 acknowledges every blessing including Jesus comes from above - all creation has its source in God - him alone! Not a three headed god but single all powerful God....Jesus understood this which is why he corrected the rich young ruler in Mark 10:18

BeyondET · Sep 19, 2022

Clark could still leap the tallest buildings even behind the glasses and plain clothes

Bible Highlighter · Sep 19, 2022

BeyondET said:
If you have seen Clark Kent then you have seen Superman for they are both one in the same.

They are. But in the world of Superman, most people don't know Clark Kent is Superman (At least last I remember in the comics, and films).
The point is that Jesus is not necessarily saying that He is not God by this statement just as Clark Kent is not saying he is not Superman by his question and talking about Superman.

May I suggest checking out my thread here:

Defending the Godhead (Trinity) & the Divine Nature of Christ

BeyondET · Sep 19, 2022

face2face said:
Not a contradiction - just different verses with different context and lessons to be understood.
James 1:17 acknowledges every blessing including Jesus comes from above - all creation has its source in God - him alone! Not a three headed god but single all powerful God....Jesus understood this which is why he corrected the rich young ruler in Mark 10:18

I know I've seen a thousand reasons to not believe but it's just reasons to not.

face2face · Sep 19, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
How about if somebody barged into your room late at night and they started preaching things you already know the truth about and you did not care to hear. That’s kind of what your doing here. They are coming into a place that they are not welcome and they are arguing something you don’t want to talk about because you know that truth fully and you don’t want to debate it because for you it is silly to keep debating it (Because you have been down that road before too many times already). The thread OP is not about the topic you are discussing. Start another thread if you want to talk about your topic of interest. I am honestly not interested in debating with you at this time on this topic. I am too busy with other Bible discussions and other life situations to debate such a thing that I find to be basic Christianity 101. I don’t need to be convinced. I am already convinced of the truth of what the Bible says about God being triune and Jesus being God. If you are not convinced, then check out my thread. If it does not convince you… then I cannot help you. Only God can help you then.

You continue to avoid, deflect and plead your cause answering nothing to what has been revealed to you...not even an attempt to understand Psalms 16:2 - I mean why avoid the Lords teaching? Does it speak to your OP? Yes!
If there is no inherent goodness in Jesus how can there be in us?
The answer is none - only God has goodness!

Bible Highlighter · Sep 19, 2022

BeyondET said:
Clark could still leap the tallest buildings even behind the glasses and plain clothes

Your missing the point. People don't know Clark Kent can do that. It's why he is Clark Kent. Jesus was not openly declaring He was God in this instance and yet He was making statements the same way that Clark Kent would do. For I believe at times Jesus did not openly always declare He was God with everyone (even though He did so at other times). Why would Jesus do this? Well, because think about all the more attention that would draw His way if people knew the Creator of the universe (GOD) was made flesh? For the Word (Who is GOD) was made flesh (John 1:1) (John 1:14).

BeyondET · Sep 19, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
They are. But in the world of Superman, most people don't know Clark Kent is Superman (At least last I remember in the comics, and films).
The point is that Jesus is not necessarily saying that He is not God by this statement just as Clark Kent is not saying he is not Superman by his question and talking about Superman.

May I suggest checking out my thread here:

Defending the Godhead (Trinity) & the Divine Nature of Christ

Yes indeed, and like i have mentioned the octopus with its 3 hearts and 9 brains in one body.
But I doubt many look to nature for such things.

face2face · Sep 19, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
Right. Jesus flat out says, I am the good shepherd.
So Jesus says He is the good shepherd which makes Jesus God.

LOL wow

Jesus is just one of God's servants - Moses asked God to set another leader over Israel, after his own death, so that "the congregation of the Lord be not as sheep which have no shepherd." Numbers 27:17) Joshua prefigured Jesus. He announced "I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep." (John 10:11)
God cant give his life Highlighter - He's Eternal...ah thats the point of raising up a son in the line of Adam!
F2F

BeyondET · Sep 19, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
Your missing the point. People don't know Clark Kent can do that. It's why he is Clark Kent. Jesus was not openly declaring He was God in this instance and yet He was making statements the same way that Clark Kent would do. For I believe at times Jesus did not openly always declare He was God with everyone (even though He did so at other times). Why would Jesus do this? Well, because think about all the more attention that would draw His way if people knew the Creator of the universe (GOD) was made flesh? For the Word (Who is GOD) was made flesh (John 1:1) (John 1:14).

When I think of Adam and when his life started it was after the completion of the human vessel nostrils and all. That vessel was made in the image and likeness of God not Adam imo. God being in that vessel is no issue imo. Second Adam

face2face · Sep 19, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
Your missing the point. People don't know Clark Kent can do that. It's why he is Clark Kent. Jesus was not openly declaring He was God in this instance and yet He was making statements the same way that Clark Kent would do. For I believe at times Jesus did not openly always declare He was God with everyone (even though He did so at other times). Why would Jesus do this? Well, because think about all the more attention that would draw His way if people knew the Creator of the universe (GOD) was made flesh? For the Word (Who is GOD) was made flesh (John 1:1) (John 1:14).

This is just terrible!

Bible Highlighter · Sep 19, 2022

BeyondET said:
Yes indeed, and like i have mentioned the octopus with its 3 hearts and 9 brains in one body.
But I doubt many look to nature for such things.

The word Godhead in the King James Bible means Trinity (Which is wrongfully removed in Modern Bibles).

Romans 1:20 says,
“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”

What invisible things within the creation declare the Godhead (or Trinity)?

An atom. They are three and yet one.
Electrons, protons, and neutrons and yet they an atom is singular.

H20. Water molecule. Three and yet one.

face2face · Sep 19, 2022

BeyondET said:
I know I've seen a thousand reasons to not believe but it's just reasons to not.

In trying to get this thread to see Jesus was quoting Psalms 16:2 cmp to Psalms 16:10 it paints an amazing picture of the real Christ and people dont want to look at him! I can see how Christians will reject Christ at his coming...the Jews had their turn to do so at his first and now its Christianities turn.
Disturbing the level of ignorance in this thread.
F2F

face2face · Sep 19, 2022

Bible Highlighter said:
The word Godhead in the King James Bible means Trinity (Which is wrongfully removed in Modern Bibles).

Romans 1:20 says,
“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”

What invisible things within the creation declare the Godhead (or Trinity)?

An atom. They are three and yet one.
Electrons, protons, and neutrons and yet they an atom is singular.

H20. Water molecule. Three and yet one.

It's getting crazier....from Superman to the Atom - but lets not use Christ's reasoning upon Psalms 16:2 - madness I say madness!
I am seeing Matthew 16:7 unfold before my eyes.
And you are blind to it!

Bible Highlighter · Sep 19, 2022

BeyondET said:
When I think of Adam and when his life started it was after the completion of the human vessel nostrils and all. That vessel was made in the image and likeness of God not Adam imo. God being in that vessel is no issue imo. Second Adam

I believe Jesus (the Word who is God) took on the flesh of a human (John 1:1) (John 1:14). Jesus said he came down from Heaven (John 6:38). 1 Corinthians 15:47 says, “The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.” The second man is Jesus who is the Lord from heaven. Who is the Lord from Heaven? God. Conclusion: Jesus is God.

Bible Highlighter · Sep 19, 2022

face2face said:
It's getting crazier....from Superman to the Atom - but lets not use Christ's reasoning upon Psalms 16:2 - madness I say madness!
I am seeing Matthew 16:7 unfold before my eyes.
And you are blind to it!

Again, I honestly don't care to debate with you (as I said before).
You are never going to see it no matter Scripture is brought forth.

When Jesus said, “there is none good but one, that is, God.” did He mean nobody could be good?

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