Reasons why the Jehovah’s Witness religion is false (Despite my love for them as human beings)

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If you cannot see it, all I can do is to tell you to read more closely about false doctrines mentioned in the New Testament and see the apostle’s opinions of false teachings. Let God’s Word open your eyes, and don’t let your own thinking be the faith.


John 7:16-19 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. [17] If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. [18] He that speaks of himself seeks his own glory: but he that seeks his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him. [19] Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keep the law? Why go you about to kill me?


^the above seems to instruct how to tell if something is false?
 

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John 7:16-19 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. [17] If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. [18] He that speaks of himself seeks his own glory: but he that seeks his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him. [19] Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keep the law? Why go you about to kill me?


^the above seems to instruct how to tell if something is false?

That’s not the only place in the Bible that talks about false teachings.

What Does the Bible Say About False Teachings?
 

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Reasons why the Jehovah’s Witness religion is evil
(Despite my love for them as human beings and my desire to see them saved).


#1. Jehovah’s Witnesses religion came about during the time period of other false religions in the latter half of the 19th century. It is odd that other religions seek to attack the Bible alone also came out during this time period, as well. You also have Mormons, Seventh Day Adventism, Pentecostal Latter Rain Theology. Each of these religions have one thing in common. They add words to the Bible. Revelation (the last book of the Bible) warns by saying, I quote: “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:” (Revelation 22:18). It is evil and wrong to add to God’s Word.

#2. Charles Taze Russell (the founder of the JW organization starting in the 1870’s) was divorced in 1911 by his wife because he his immoral acts with other women. The apostle Paul says, “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19-21). It is evil that the JW’s founder was sexually immoral whereby his wife divorced him.

#3. Charles Taze Russel stated he was able to read Greek, but when he was in court, he was exposed as being a liar because he could not translate even the most simple Greek alphabet. Revelation 21:8 says, “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”. It is evil that the JW’s founder had lied not fearing God’s warning in Revelation.

#4. The Jehovah’s Witness organization made multiple false prophecies that never came true.

1872 - JW’s falsely prophesied that they are living in the millennium since this year in October.

1914 - JW’s falsely prophesied that Armageddon ended in this year, and God’s kingdom began.

1915 - JW’s falsely prophesied that the kingdom of God would be established in this year.

1925 - JW’s falsely prophesied that the Millennium would begin in this year.

1925 - JW leader Rutherford predicted that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob would be resurrected, and he had a mansion built for them, and when they did not show up, Rutherford decided to live in the mansion instead.

1975 - JW’s falsely prophesied that the Millennium would begin in this year.

End of the 20th century: - JW’s falsely prophesied that Armageddon would begin.​

Deuteronomy 18:21-22
“And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.”

Yet, the JW’s want you to be afraid of their prophesies of their end times future judgments still.
This is evil and wrong because they have failed the test of being a true prophet of God by making multiple failed prophecies to begin with. They have shown themselves to be led by the evil one by making multiple failed prophecies. JW people have even left their organization when certain prophecies have failed to come true.

#5. JW leader Rutherford was a drunkard (i.e. he was an alcholic). The Bible says, “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10). This again shows you that another JW leader was immoral whereby the organization was being led by evil and or darkness.

#6. Like the Catholic Church, the JW organization has covered up child sexual abuse scandals within their own church. Jesus says in Luke 17:2 (NLT), “It would be better to be thrown into the sea with a millstone hung around your neck than to cause one of these little ones to fall into sin.” This is beyond normal human decency that such an organization would allow to cover up such evil and darkness.

#7. JW’s are to hate those who leave their organization. But Jesus says, “…Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;” (Matthew 5:44). It’s evil to deny a command of the Lord Jesus Christ to love your enemies.

#8. The JW cult like mindset. JW’s are a cult wanting you to follow the WatchTower organization blindly in what they say as if it was the Word of God. JW’s have even said not to Google anything about their organization (Outside of the official JW website or JW supporting sites). But the Bible says, “Test all things; hold fast what is good.” (1 Thessalonians 5:21) (NKJV). This sounds like a cult like control of brainwashing others whereby they don’t want you to think and research things for yourself. But it’s evil to deny Scripture’s teaching by the apostle Paul to test all things.

#9. JW’s state that you cannot understand the Bible without their help. But it is written: “Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.” (Acts of the Apostles 17:11) (NIV). It’s evil to teach one group alone has the sole corner on God’s Word. We see no such prejudice in Acts 17:11. Thus, the JW religion is evil for controlling one’s thinking on Scripture.

#10. JW’s teach that it is sinful and idolatrous to pray to Jesus Christ. Yet, the Bible says, “Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord,…” (1 Corinthians 1:2). John 14:14, “If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.” 1 Timothy 1:12 "I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service”. For it’s how we can be saved even. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved (Romans 10:13 cf. Romans 10:8-12). It is evil and wrong to suggest that you cannot pray to Jesus because Jesus is the only mediator between God and man (1 Timothy 2:5). Thankfully, some ex JW’s have been set free from the evil darkness of the JW religion because they called upon the Lord Jesus for salvation.
I don't think this is the way to reach people. You're not going to persuade many people like this.
 
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I don't think this is the way to reach people. You're not going to persuade many people like this.

Yet, Jesus said, “If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children,...”
(Matthew 7:11).

Jesus did not always coddle to playing niceties always and He told it like it was.
So does that mean Jesus did not persuade people because He spoke this way?

What about Psalms 119:104?

Psalms 119:104
“Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.”

What about Proverbs 8:13?

Proverbs 8:13
“The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.”

Are you saying these verses are in error and they have no impact upon any people throughout history?

This is why many of you do not understand. Are you liberal or do you take a liberal approach to the Bible? Do you view the Bible as the very literal words of God to you today?
Do you see all ways leading to Heaven?
Do you not hate every false way?
Do you fear the Lord and hate evil?
Do you think the JW religion is a good path and not an evil one?
 

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To all:

I have added some new links to the first page for real unbiased truth seekers to research for themselves on the JW religion.

May the light of the truth shine out the darkness.

Grace and peace be unto you all.
 

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The Watchtower error can be summarized down to one simple failure.

They do not follow the true Jesus who is eternal, uncreated YHWH, the I AM.

They follow a different Jesus who is a mere created being, and this created Jesus of their making has no eternal authority to forgive himself of his own sins, much less have the authority to forgive sins of anyone else.

Only the uncreated eternal Alev and the Tav and the Alpha and Omega from Gen 1:1 to Rev 22 is the true Jesus, the Almighty, the Amen.
 

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Two Christians here agree with me that the JW's are in error and they need to be exposed.
Thank you Lord for those two Christians here in speaking up in telling the truth.
 

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The Watchtower error can be summarized down to one simple failure.

They do not follow the true Jesus who is eternal, uncreated YHWH, the I AM.

They follow a different Jesus who is a mere created being, and this created Jesus of their making has no eternal authority to forgive himself of his own sins, much less have the authority to forgive sins of anyone else.

Only the uncreated eternal Alev and the Tav and the Alpha and Omega from Gen 1:1 to Rev 22 is the true Jesus, the Almighty, the Amen.

Thank you for your contribution, my friend.

May God bless you for standing up for the truth.
 

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There are so many wrong things in this statement, I don’t even know where to begin.
If you don’t make the Bible your religion or practice of faith, then you are following another God that is not of the Bible. True Christians follow the Scriptures alone because that is what the Bible itself teaches for us to do. For 2 Timothy 3:16 basically says all Scripture is profitable for doctrine, instruction in righteousness so that the man of God may be perfect unto every good work. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing the Word of God (Romans 10:17). This would be Scripture or your Bible and nothing else. That is why the JW cult religion is wrong because they add something extra to the Bible that contradicts the Bible.

As for the Jews: They did not crucify their Messiah based on Scripture. If you were to ever read the Bible more closely, they ignored the weightier matters of the Law and the had traditions that made void the Word of God (Which was Scripture even at that time). For if the Jews followed faithfully the Torah Scriptures, they would have accepted Jesus as their Messiah. This is why what you said is silly and shows your lack of understanding the Bible.

You also compare football (a man made sport) to the Bible. I cannot imagine a more highly offensive statement about God’s Word. You have cracked jokes in other threads on other Bible topics when serious Bible discussions were being made. This again shows how little value you place upon the Bible. This is why you need to be born again of water (i.e. by the Word of God, the Scriptures) and be born again of the Spirit and accept the real Jesus of the Bible. Otherwise you will never see and you will just continue to mock the Bible and it’s related topics.



It takes spiritual discernment and understanding to stand for the Bible alone position as a part of being a faithful Christian to God’s Word. If you are not against calling the JW’s as false and evil, then why don’t you join them? Just know if you leave, they are commanded to hate you (Which goes against the command of our Lord to love even our enemies). This is why what you believe is highly illogical. But this thread is not about analyzing why we should call the JW church as being evil. This thread is merely to point out the facts of why they are evil. If you don’t agree. That’s your opinion, and I don’t share it because I stand by the Bible, a book that you seem to think is no different than football.
I see you have plenty to criticise about where I am wrong. Yes, In your view I'm a Babylonian mixing everything up but you haven't told me anything of Jesus.
Could it be that you cannot?
Could it be that you have nothing to share to draw the heart?
Could it be that your go to strategy is more about dismantling than it is building?
Could it be that you have been captured by the very principles that had Jesus murdered?
Could it be that your focus is yourself and your rightness?.....and to maintain this you need to put others down?
 

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I see you have plenty to criticise about where I am wrong. Yes, In your view I'm a Babylonian mixing everything up but you haven't told me anything of Jesus.
Could it be that you cannot?
Could it be that you have nothing to share to draw the heart?
Could it be that your go to strategy is more about dismantling than it is building?
Could it be that you have been captured by the very principles that had Jesus murdered?
Could it be that your focus is yourself and your rightness?.....and to maintain this you need to put others down?

You don't seem to care if lost souls run into the arms of the Jehovah's Witnesses. That's how your posts come off to me by your responses.
In your happy la la land, we should just give them some kind of hippie kind of love and just love em into the Kingdom. Sorry. Errors need to be corrected and exposed. False teachings and the sins of that church need to be shown for men to repent and move out of such darkness (of which you have no clue about).

Also, if you actually read what I wrote, you would see that I am defending the faith and mentioning Scripture and the true Jesus (and pointing our readers to Him as a result).

JW's don't believe in praying to Jesus. Do you care? It doesn't seem like it. But I have used Scripture of how we can do so (Because I do care about their souls). This shows our reader's the need for the truth of God's Word and the real Jesus Christ. The JW's offer a false Jesus because they reject that Jesus is God. The JW's believe Jesus is Michael the archangel. But you can just keep criticizing if you like. This really is not a battle of the egos here. It's a battle for the truth of God's Word (of which you don't seem to really care about). So you can keep ranting if you like and interrupt threads about how we can fill bathtubs with alcohol in serious bible discussions but I really cannot take you seriously. No offense: But you appear to have no understanding of the spiritual battle that we are even in.
 

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You don't seem to care if lost souls run into the arms of the Jehovah's Witnesses. That's how your posts come off to me by your responses.
In your happy la la land, we should just give them some kind of hippie kind of love and just love em into the Kingdom. Sorry. Errors need to be corrected and exposed. False teachings and the sins of that church need to be shown for men to repent and move out of such darkness (of which you have no clue about).

Also, if you actually read what I wrote, you would see that I am defending the faith and mentioning Scripture and the true Jesus (and pointing our readers to Him as a result).

JW's don't believe in praying to Jesus. Do you care? It doesn't seem like it. But I have used Scripture of how we can do so (Because I do care about their souls). This shows our reader's the need for the truth of God's Word and the real Jesus Christ. The JW's offer a false Jesus because they reject that Jesus is God. The JW's believe Jesus is Michael the archangel. But you can just keep criticizing if you like. This really is not a battle of the egos here. It's a battle for the truth of God's Word (of which you don't seem to really care about). So you can keep ranting if you like and interrupt threads about how we can fill bathtubs with alcohol in serious bible discussions but I really cannot take you seriously. No offense: But you appear to have no understanding of the spiritual battle that we are even in.
Your whole thrust BH, is 'telling me' You make no enquiries, just assumptions ....from which you bounce your criticisms....all wrapped in a pseudo piety.
 

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Your whole thrust BH, is 'telling me' You make no enquiries, just assumptions ....from which you bounce your criticisms....all wrapped in a pseudo piety.

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Sound familiar?

Do you know who Jim Jones and what happened with his followers because of their blind trust in what he said?

Jim Jones basically had his followers drink Flavor-aid that had cyanide (poison) in it and they died.
They willingly committed suicide based on what this guy said.

Jim Jones - Wikipedia

That's the danger behind the JW organization. Anything they say you have to obey. So if they replayed a Jim Jones routine, think about how many lives would be lost if many of their own followers just continued to keep blindly following what they said. That's what I am talking about here that you have no clue of. And this is just the tip of the iceberg of nutty things they believe.
 

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Your whole thrust BH, is 'telling me' You make no enquiries, just assumptions ....from which you bounce your criticisms....all wrapped in a pseudo piety.

JW's falsely teach that the cross is pagan. JW's erroneously believe that Jesus was on a stake and not a cross. In one JW picture from JW.org they show Jesus with one nail going through his hands of which you can check out in their website page here.

Yet, in John 20:25 of their own New World Translation (on their own website) states, “Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails...”; In the photo of Jesus they have on their official website with him being on a stake they show only ONE NAIL in his hands. Yet, their own translation on their website says NAILS in his hands. So they are contradicting themselves yet again. The Bible they used before the New World Translation that they used was the King James Bible (KJB). The KJB mentions the word “cross” and not a “stake” that their new updated catered Bible falsely says. So again, this shows that they are not even being consistent in their own theology (Which means they are simply making this stuff up out of thin air). So when are you going to stop defending them? The JW's don't even think you are saved. The JW's believe they are the only saved ones. Just read that fact for yourself at their cult website.
 
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JW's falsely teach that the cross is pagan. JW's erroneously believe that Jesus was on a stake and not a cross. In one JW picture from JW.org they show Jesus with one nail going through his hands of which you can check out in their website page here.

Yet, in John 20:25 of their own New World Translation (on their own website) states, “Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails...”; In the photo of Jesus they have on their official website with him being on a stake they show only ONE NAIL in his hands. Yet, their own translation on their website says NAILS in his hands. So they are contradicting themselves yet again. The Bible they used before the New World Translation that they used was the King James Bible (KJB). The KJB mentions the word “cross” and not a “stake” that their new updated catered Bible falsely says. So again, this shows that they are not even being consistent in their own theology (Which means they are simply making this stuff up out of thin air).
Dull hearing misses the point. My reference to 'assumptions' is about your assumptions about me.....yet you spin off on a divergent track. Could it be because it consumes your reality? Doesn't the scripture say, 'what comes out of the mouth is the overflowing of the heart'?
 

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Dull hearing misses the point. My reference to 'assumptions' is about your assumptions about me.....yet you spin off on a divergent track. Could it be because it consumes your reality? Doesn't the scripture say, 'what comes out of the mouth is the overflowing of the heart'?

Look in the mirror. You are not even listening to the points I just made which would put to rest your unfound criticism.
Please go back and read my last two posts to you. If you do not address the content of those two posts (Which clearly show the JW religion to be in error), then I am going to stop replying to your posts directly from this point on. For you are seeking to be only disruptive without really caring about what truth is discussed.
 

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Look in the mirror. You are not even listening to the points I just made which would put to rest your unfound criticism.
Please go back and read my last two posts to you. If you do not address the content of those two posts (Which clearly show the JW religion to be in error), then I am going to stop replying to your posts directly from this point on. For you are seeking to be only disruptive without really caring about what truth is discussed.
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platitudes masquerading as insight!

I believe if a person does not believe the Bible can transform them, then they are not a true Christian.
All Christians who are Christian are that way because they have been changed by the Bible (God's Word), and they follow the Bible.
In fact, we know by Scripture that is the reason why we are called Christians.
We know that it is by Scripture that we are born again (changed/transformed).
While I love you in Christ Jesus, there is nothing further to discuss. Seeing you did not address my two posts on the false JW religion and based on your last previous statement you made above here: You posts will not be directly replied to or quoted.

May God bless you.
 

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I believe if a person does not believe the Bible can transform them, then they are not a true Christian.
All Christians who are Christian are that way because they have been changed by the Bible (God's Word), and they follow the Bible.
In fact, we know by Scripture that is the reason why we are called Christians.
We know that it is by Scripture that we are born again (changed/transformed).
While I love you in Christ Jesus, there is nothing further to discuss. Seeing you did not address my two posts on the false JW religion and based on your last previous statement you made above here: You posts will not be directly replied to or quoted.

May God bless you.
Perhaps the God you envisage is as short in patience and perseverance as you are when things don't go your way?