What does " Nation " mean in Matt 28:19 ?

Well first you have to understand that Jesus Christ arrived as a surprise because the Messiah was not predicted to come until the appointed time of the end. The Jewish Rabbi's knew that the one promised to Moses would have a skin disease the same as Moses. Also be a descendent of Joseph as Moses asked for.

Dan,
Ethne εθνη is plural. So now what?

Matt 28:19
Matthew 28:19

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
[Go ye therefore] "Because" all power is mine, go! I can defend you. The world is placed under my control. It is redeemed. It is given me in promise by my Father, as the purchase of my death. Though you are weak, yet I am strong! Though you will encounter many troubles and dangers, yet I can defend you! Though YOU die, yet I live, and the work shall be accomplished!
[Teach all nations] The word rendered "teach," here, is not the one that is usually so translated in the New Testament. This word properly means "to disciple, or to make disciples of." This was to be done, however, by teaching, and by administering baptism.
[All nations] This gracious commission was the foundation of their authority to go to the Gentiles. The Jews had expected that the offers of life under the Messiah would be confined to their own nation. Jesus broke down the partition wall, and commissioned his disciples to go everywhere, and bring the "world" to the knowledge of himself.
[Baptizing them] as an emblem of the purifying influences of the Christian religion through the Holy Spirit, and solemnly devoting them to God.
(from Barnes' Notes, Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 1997 by Biblesoft)

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dan p said:

Hi to all , and since the beginning I have been preached to and taught the we are to go into all the world and teach all NATIONS/ETHNOS .

This has been drumed into all believers , since childhood , but what does Matt 28:19 really teach us today .

#1 , The Context in verse 16 , the command was given to the 11 disciples .

#2 , What does ETHNOS really mean ?? For it is used in many ways as we shall see !!

#3 , Did the disciples accomplished this Command which is in the Greek Imperative Mood , and we know that they DID NOT !!

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YES THEY DID ACCOMPLISH IT!!!

Only an "antichrist" would deny it. And that label can easily... apply to a believer that falls away from Christ to become deceived, and instead follows ideas of the devil.

No need to rehash all the historical proofs for Christ's Apostles and disciples going to Asia Minor and Europe to preach The Gospel to the nations. Apostle Paul himself was captive in ROME until he died there. Rome is in ITALY by the way, for those who need help with basic geography. That's where Apostle Peter was also, and died there also, and is STILL... today where their tombs are located!

And then... when the nations of Asia Minor and Europe became CHRISTIAN NATIONS, they then SENT disciples to preach The Gospel of Jesus Christ to OTHER nations outside their areas! That is still... going on today!

All that is public knowledge; I have no need to document it.

#4 , The reason that it was not accomplished , is because Israel killed their MESSIAH and the Nation was set aside .

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That is just one ignorant stupid statement above; I can't hide mockery of that. Why is it stupid? Because it falsely ASSUMES Christ's OWN Apostles and disciples were ALSO included in that act of crucifying Christ Jesus, just becaue His Apostles were Israelites!

FACT: Even the ten tribes of the northern kingdom of "house of Israel" were NOT in the holy lands at the time of Christ's first coming. They along with the majority of Jews had already been scattered... to the nations outside the holy land. Thus the MAJORITY of Israelites were not even IN the area of Judea/Jerusalem at Christ's first coming! That can be documented from God's Word starting in 1 Kings 11 through 2 Kings 17, in The Gospel where the Pharisees even recognized the diaspora, and even with Apostle James who addressed the twelve tribes of Israel scattered abroad in the first verse of his Epistle.

#5 , We know that Israel was set aside for many reason , does anyone see Jews preaching to Gentiles , because that is who was commanded to go and Preach to the Nations and reach WHO ??

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Duh... Apostle Paul himself was a Jew (Acts 21:39; Acts 22:3), as Paul addressed Peter as a Jew also (Gal.2:14). BOTH were at ROME. Per Acts 9:15 Christ chose Paul to preach to who?

To:
1 Gentiles
2. kings
3. children of Israel.

Most likely, you don't have a clue of how Paul preached The Gospel to kings and the children of Israel.

I just have to throw this in " Does anyone on this site believe in APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION ??

Do I hear a resounding NO !!

Then why does most of so-called Christianity still believe in BAPTIMAL SUCCESSION ??

You can not separate the TWO , for they are forever LINKED forever .

Israel was set aside as referenced in Luke 13:6-9 , when Jesus ministry was cut short by His death .

#6 , Most will argue that Nations in Matt 28:19 are Gentiles , and that is not so .

#7 , Jojn 11:51 , reads " but being High Priest that year he prophesied that Jesus should DIE FOR THAT NATION/ETHNOS !!

#8 , ETHNOS in John 11:51 , does not mean Gentile , but die for the Jewish Nation/Ethnos .

#9 , Read verse 50 , " and that the whole NATION/ETHNOS perish not !!

It IT DOES NOT READ , " and that the whole GENTILES perish not , for it makes no sense , right ?

#10 , The NEAR VIEW is that Matt 28:19 has been set aside as was Jesus ministry , Temporary .

#11 , The FAR VIEW is that Matt 28:19 will be put into operation after the Body of Christ is Departed/Raptured as Rom 11:25 , says , " until the FULNESS of the Gentiles be come in ".

#12 , Then the Jews will begin to reach their fellow Jews after the departure of the Body of Christ .

ETHNOS can be translated by , Heathen , Gentile , Pagan , Nation !

DAN P

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Yeah, now that's definitely throwing stuff in, stuff that are FALSE doctrines you love more than God's Truth in His Word.

dan p said:

Hi to all , and since the beginning I have been preached to and taught the we are to go into all the world and teach all NATIONS/ETHNOS .

This has been drumed into all believers , since childhood , but what does Matt 28:19 really teach us today .

#1 , The Context in verse 16 , the command was given to the 11 disciples .

#2 , What does ETHNOS really mean ?? For it is used in many ways as we shall see !!

#3 , Did the disciples accomplished this Command which is in the Greek Imperative Mood , and we know that they DID NOT !!

#4 , The reason that it was not accomplished , is because Israel killed their MESSIAH and the Nation was set aside .

#5 , We know that Israel was set aside for many reason , does anyone see Jews preaching to Gentiles , because that is who was commanded to go and Preach to the Nations and reach WHO ??

I just have to throw this in " Does anyone on this site believe in APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION ??

Do I hear a resounding NO !!

Then why does most of so-called Christianity still believe in BAPTIMAL SUCCESSION ??

You can not separate the TWO , for they are forever LINKED forever .

Israel was set aside as referenced in Luke 13:6-9 , when Jesus ministry was cut short by His death .

#6 , Most will argue that Nations in Matt 28:19 are Gentiles , and that is not so .

#7 , Jojn 11:51 , reads " but being High Priest that year he prophesied that Jesus should DIE FOR THAT NATION/ETHNOS !!

#8 , ETHNOS in John 11:51 , does not mean Gentile , but die for the Jewish Nation/Ethnos .

#9 , Read verse 50 , " and that the whole NATION/ETHNOS perish not !!

It IT DOES NOT READ , " and that the whole GENTILES perish not , for it makes no sense , right ?

#10 , The NEAR VIEW is that Matt 28:19 has been set aside as was Jesus ministry , Temporary .

#11 , The FAR VIEW is that Matt 28:19 will be put into operation after the Body of Christ is Departed/Raptured as Rom 11:25 , says , " until the FULNESS of the Gentiles be come in ".

#12 , Then the Jews will begin to reach their fellow Jews after the departure of the Body of Christ .

ETHNOS can be translated by , Heathen , Gentile , Pagan , Nation !

DAN P

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Jesus never commanded the Jews to preach the gospel. He commanded the disciples, whom were Jews and believed in Him, and by extension all Christians do it. Jesus never intended that the disciples, turned apostils to do it all by themselves but as new people are added, they would also do the same and pick up where they left off. The problem we have today is that the most Christians are not preaching the true gospel.....the gospel that Jesus commanded to preach. In fact, they don't even know what that gospel is to even preach it.