The Sabbath day.

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I suggest all read these Prophecies regarding the True Sabbath.amightywind.com/teachings/truesabbath.htmlRemember that "YAHUSHUA called them [unto Him], and said, Suffer little children to come unto Me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God" (Luke 18:16).This is meant to be easy enough for a little child to understand.
 

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I do not know why they call Sunday the Sabbath day.I rest from Friday sunset till Saturday sunset. Not because I feel it is part of salvation, but simply because I believe this to be the true Sabbath day.I still attend church on a Sunday but am considering looking at the messianic Jews.In my heart I know that church is not the place to worship God, but we are the temple where God is worshipped in Spirit and Truth.I still believe good can be done to our fellow man on any day.Does anyone have views about the sabbath day. :angel9: :shepard:
i know the sabbath is a very important issue,some have been hurt the sda message or the sda box they wish to put around the sabbath.some justifies it by calling jesus the sabbath[that is wierd to me ]but i do not get up in arms any more about that...i am finding out more and more the truth of it and the importance of what will be shared threw that remembering of the sabbath...we can not work our way to heaven threw the law but we can uphold the law and have the fruits of it...the sabbath was not just a man made tradition...the sunday was as xmas ,as easter the should be called beaster..
 

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IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRITHERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE(bullfighter;54240)
i Know The Sabbath Is A Very Important Issue,some Have Been Hurt The Sda Message Or The Sda Box They Wish To Put Around The Sabbath.some Justifies It By Calling Jesus The Sabbath[that Is Wierd To Me ]but I Do Not Get Up In Arms Any More About That...i Am Finding Out More And More The Truth Of It And The Importance Of What Will Be Shared Threw That Remembering Of The Sabbath...we Can Not Work Our Way To Heaven Threw The Law But We Can Uphold The Law And Have The Fruits Of It...the Sabbath Was Not Just A Man Made Tradition...the Sunday Was As Xmas ,as Easter The Should Be Called Beaster..
please.. Dont Use Our Own Understanding To Understand God And His Kingdom.We Should Remember How The Devil Used The People's To Insult Jesus On This Sabbbath Matter....read Luke 13:10-16, 14:1-6, Matthew 12:1-12In Mathew 12:8 "BESIDES, THE SON OF MAN IS THE LORD OF SABBATH."And This Is Most Important To All Of Us Who Believe In Jesus... We Must Not Lean On Our Own Understand... For Every "words" That Spoke By Jesus Is Spirit And They Are Life.On One The Sabbath Day, Jesus Reminded All Us As He Said:-"MY FATHER GOES ON WORKING AND SO DO I." (john 5:17)May God Forgive All Our SinAmenFrom Watt
 

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Christ himself broke the Sabbath Day Law and healed on it because he knew it would mean nothing soon because it was never about a Day it was about him the same way a lamb was used to atone for sin was the type of the Lamb to come (Jesus Christ) the same was true of Christ he would become the Sabbath it was no longer about a Day thats why Col tells us after Christ death it was no longer a Day but Christ himself a Sabbath Day is barely mentioned in the New Testament Our rest is in Christ our Sabbath not any day
Christ healed on the sabbath day to show that the sabbath was made for the good of man and not man for the sabbath.It is not a sin to love your neighbour on the sabbath day by doing good to them. We have not come into that perfect rest yet.The race is ongoing till we go to be with the Lord or he returns.Man now worships God in Spirit and Truth. John 4:22-24.The place of worship is not important but truth of how we worship is.Faithful.:angel9:
 

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Christ healed on the sabbath day to show that the sabbath was made for the good of man and not man for the sabbath.It is not a sin to love your neighbour on the sabbath day by doing good to them. We have not come into that perfect rest yet.The race is ongoing till we go to be with the Lord or he returns.Man now worships God in Spirit and Truth. John 4:22-24.The place of worship is not important but truth of how we worship is.Faithful.:angel9:
Faithful are you from Lampstand?? If you are I love reading your post.I didnt know u were a sabbath keeper. If u are her let me know I have a few questions to ask you.Crooner
 

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i have had some problems explaining myself sometimes..i am in great alaska right now,finding some truth that i will share..i never meant to affend kriss,i got a point for something i said ... anyways i stuggle for truth sometimes, and find the world heavey when i try to carry to much...i love the moment in joy ...some times i give into fear and war in the spirit...i would like to have the main things that is important to god for us to know and all know it[would that be nice to agree..and if its not important that we agree.then what is thebest thing we can say to some one ... ..(Faithful;54526)
Christ healed on the sabbath day to show that the sabbath was made for the good of man and not man for the sabbath.It is not a sin to love your neighbour on the sabbath day by doing good to them. We have not come into that perfect rest yet.The race is ongoing till we go to be with the Lord or he returns.Man now worships God in Spirit and Truth. John 4:22-24.The place of worship is not important but truth of how we worship is.Faithful.:angel9:
 

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I do not know why they call Sunday the Sabbath day.I rest from Friday sunset till Saturday sunset. Not because I feel it is part of salvation, but simply because I believe this to be the true Sabbath day.I still attend church on a Sunday but am considering looking at the messianic Jews.In my heart I know that church is not the place to worship God, but we are the temple where God is worshipped in Spirit and Truth.I still believe good can be done to our fellow man on any day.Does anyone have views about the sabbath day. :angel9: :shepard:
Faithful, You may seem to be "singular" in your acceptance of Sabbath from sunset Friday evening through to sunset Saturday evening. But you are more biblically correct than any who attempt to discourage your respect for the 7th day as being the true "Lord's Day. What sensible, biblical reasoning have you for respecting God's fourth Command on any specific day of the week? What was God's personal given reason for putting this command at His "finger" as one among ten upon stone and upon your Mind, or heart? What is the most active Mark for your testimony that you believe the expressive power of God as Creator/Originator and Giver of life and as Resurrected Saviour?Where in the scriptures, old or New Testament are you issued any alteration from the Seventh Day, in honor Of God as Creator of all things, to the First Day as of Greater in remembrance for His Resurrection? The most obvious biblical answer is that neither Christ nor His Apostles ever taught any such alteration of the Ten Commandments. And neither is ever recorded as per any example for any such change of either the number or the command. But both have been recorded for their own examples for Seventh Day of the week with respect toward Christ (Messiah) as the Creator God "In the flesh."If this is your perception and reasoning for your acceptance for His Command you know with sound confidence of Faith in Whom you have now entrusted your life for eternal existence with Him in His new heaven and new earth. You have therefore been blessed of the "Present Truth" from the "Sure Words" of the Scriptures.And "Despise not Prophesying. Prove all things. Hold fast that which is Good" ( agreeable with Gods Words)." 1hess.5:19-24. Stand fast in His Words. Beware of false interpreters.
 

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The sabbath is an issue like the rapture post trib arguement. The point is with the sabbath if your convicted to keep it you should keep it. Saturday truley is the sabbath day. If you decided to keep it dont judge others if they keep Sunday. I am an ex SDA that loves to keep the sabbath, but the SDA churches Ive tried to attend are truly legalistic. So I go to a not denominational church. If I could find a worshiping SDA church I might attend. We need not to judge others for keeping another day. Just do it and enjoy it and dont judge. Hebrews says today is rest.
 

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Your absolutely correct as per the issue of "judgment" not only as relates to the keeping of the Seventh day Sabbath, as opposed to a First day "sabbath; but with regard toward any point of biblical doctrine. And that, inspite of the fact that it is written that there is truly but one God, who's desire it is that that doctrine ought to be promoted among men. Amazing how many times I have bumped up against this defensive posture. If I am sharing the doctrine I have discovered, i am almost always labeled to be "Judgmental" despite the fact I offer no word of condemnation but only information."Judgment." But did he offer doctrine in opposition to the "teachers?" We know he did! Does He desire us to share His teaching (Doctrine)? Why of Course He does? Will we be "judged" if we refuse to either rightly teach or obey His doctrine? Why of course we will! His own words inform us that we shall be "judged" by our every word against His own. A great many of our interpretive problems stem from misunderstandings of words as per their given in context/s. I have most certainly have "judged" for myself that according to biblical evidence that Adam, Noah, Moses, Jesus and all HisApostles have given me their examples and counsel of reason for seventh day Sabbath observance. If I, with my knowledge of The Word, choose to Resist the Creator's Own Reasoned Testimonials for observing His Memorial for His Creative Power by Momentous Expression. I might as well Testify to the doctrine of confusion called Evolution, for which I know, by scripture evidence will place me on "death row." However, that choice is for every man as an individual. And the condemnation ("Judgment") is not mine to pass on except as per the information from the word: Not my "Judgment" (not "my call") by any authority of my own: "Vengeance is Mine, says the Lord God our Creator.No one word stand in the power of itself from any linguistic function. The is also true in the Bible. I thank God, in Christ He has made me wise to this valuable concept for a more mature growth in understanding His person and His Words for sound doctrine/s for everlasting life In Him. Yes! We are all free to resist the truth of His Weekly Sabbath/s. But Jesus did not offer Himself Up on the Cross so that we were made free to join the resistance clubs. Even if following His Word should leave us no assist from organization. Inform but do not pass condemnation, as denouncing anyone worthy of any death whether temporal (which we may all experience to the 2nd Advent of Christ), or eternal death, for which we have no such personal powers.Happy Sabbath to all who can and do, by personal choice, choose to believe in THE POWER OF THE WORD OF LIFE.
 

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The sabbath is an issue like the rapture post trib arguement. ...
Absolutely not, the Sabbeth was instituted by God, rapture is a myth by evil men.
 

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Are you guys saying christians are goung to be judged for not keeping the sabbath? If you are then you better read Pauls writing on salvation by faith(not works) That sounds like old SDA instead of evangelical SDA. If you are your arguing at the wrong plage. Jehova witness.come would agree with you .
 

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Are you guys saying christians are goung to be judged for not keeping the sabbath? If you are then you better read Pauls writing on salvation by faith(not works) That sounds like old SDA instead of evangelical SDA. If you are your arguing at the wrong plage. Jehova witness.come would agree with you .
What is our Sabbath? You should read Paul's writings, but not just his writings on faith. Check out Hebrews 4, for instance.
 

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I agree with you the sabbath is special, but it doesnt make you a better christian or any more saved. I grew up with the same legalistic brainwashing as you. You are saved iregaurdless of what a great sabbath keeper you are. Dont judge a man for what day he keeps. Move on and preach the gospel.
 

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Agreed Tom Sabbath has nothing to do with a day in the New Testament no day is reconized Christ fulfilled the Day and became our Sabbath which means Rest. Christ is where we Sabbath=Rest the new testament clearly says we are not not to judge one on what day they worship Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]: Theres nothing wrong with worship on Saturday or Sunday or any other day of the week we are to Rest,... that is Sabbath in Christ everday.
 

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I agree with you the sabbath is special, but it doesnt make you a better christian or any more saved. I grew up with the same legalistic brainwashing as you. You are saved iregaurdless of what a great sabbath keeper you are. Dont judge a man for what day he keeps. Move on and preach the gospel.
Crooner, it is not a day, it's where you rest. As a Christian, I find my rest in Christ, not just on Friday evening and Saturday, or Sunday, but every day, and I expect you do also.Do yourself a favor and look at the words "abide" and "mansions" in John:Joh 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abideG3306 in darkness. Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abideG3306 with you for ever; Joh 15:6 If a man abideG3306 not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. Joh 15:7 If ye abideG3306 in me, and my words abideG3306 in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Joh 15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. Joh 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abideG3306 in his love.Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions:G3438: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. G3306 μένωmenōmen'-oA primary verb; to stay (in a given place, state, relation or expectancy): - abide, continue, dwell, endure, be present, remain, stand, tarry (for), X thine own.G3438 μονήmonēmon-ay'From G3306; a staying, that is, residence (the act or the place): - abode, mansion.Christians do not need to wait until Christ returns to have a mansion, we are to mansion (abide) in Him now and every day. They can and need to "rest" in Him, Sabbathkriss, just saw your post on the same topic
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Your a good seventh Day Adventist.
croonerWhat are you talking about? better reread that postSDA believe Sabbath is a Day Tom and myself are saying Christ is our Sabbath(rest)Not a Day thats what New Testament teaches us
 

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Your a good seventh Day Adventist.
Me ? I'm not SDA, I drink coffee, smoke cigars, etc.
 

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Your a good seventh Day Adventist.
croonerWhat are you talking about? better reread that postSDA believe Sabbath is a Day Tom and myself are saying Christ is our Sabbath(rest)Not a Day thats what New Testament teaches us[She's right.Matthew 12:8 - For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.Mark 2:28 - Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.Luke 6:5 - And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.Isn't enough that the Bible said it THREE times? That's three witnesses right there.
 

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KrissNo metter what you think about the sabbath day it still exist today. You cant throw awaw the 10 commandments because its there, but we are not saved by the law only grace. your concept is good but if you throw out the sabbath you throw out the others. Its a good idea to accept that fact but we are not judge by the law. The sabbath was mostly for the jews but the law has not been changed. We should not argue the law. Just promote the gospel and let people decide what day they want to keep.For me every day is rest, but we have to let this go to promote the gospel. Its the same arguement the pharisees and christians were having and its causes division. We need to let it goooooo.