What Should A Person Do If They Miss The Rapture ?

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This is a discussion forum...If you cannot discuss this matter without personal attacks then my suggestion is that you remove yourself from any further discussion on this thread and cool it! until you can behave appropriately. If you cannot...then this thread will be locked..

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But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. - Matthew 24:27

They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. - Luke 17:27


Right, Noah and his family were STILL on the earth, but in an ark of God's protection.

Christ Jesus is our Ark of protection through... the coming tribulation.

And those putting out the false doctrine that only the wicked are on earth for the tribulation preach a foolish doctrine that is not written in God's Word.


Rev 16:12-16
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And He gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
(KJV)

Woah! What's that Christ coming "as a thief" reference doing there still AFTER the 6th Vial?!?
 

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What's that Christ coming "as a thief" reference doing there still AFTER the 6th Vial?!?

I have wondered if the vials are poured out sequentially, or all at once. This verse just spoke to me that the latter is the case. As I see it, the trumpet judgments occur over approximately 3.5 years; whereas the vials of wrath occur immediately after that time, over a period of 9 or 10 days that begins immediately after the resurrection.
 

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I have wondered if the vials are poured out sequentially, or all at once. This verse just spoke to me that the latter is the case. As I see it, the trumpet judgments occur over approximately 3.5 years; whereas the vials of wrath occur immediately after that time, over a period of 9 or 10 days that begins immediately after the resurrection.

Our Lord Jesus gave only 7 signs for the end, not 21 signs (in His Olivet Discourse per Matt.24; Mark 13).

It's still a mystery for many that our Lord Jesus was covering all 21 signs of the Revelation seals, trumpets, and vials within those 7 signs of Matt.24 and Mark 13. The very last... sign He gave there was the event of His coming and the gathering of His saints.

It is thought by many on the Pre-trib and... Post-trib views, that the 7 vials only begin after all the 7 trumpets are over. The Rev.16:15 verse reveals that's not so. So do the events of the 7th trumpet - last woe (Rev.11), as likewise with events of the 6th seal (Rev.6).

The written order in which the seals, trumpets, and vials are given is one thing, but their arrangement per their events is another. The proper order is not to be determined by the order they are written down, but by their event order.
 

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It is thought by many on the Pre-trib and... Post-trib views, that the 7 vials only begin after all the 7 trumpets are over.

I think the 7th trumpet announces the first resurrection, the 7 vials of wrath, and day of the Lord (Armageddon), in that order.
 

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Can they still receive Christ if they are left behind ?

If a person has rejected jesus during this age of Grace, where one is free to choose, it will be very difficult, if not very unlikely, with the strong opposition against all things holy, that one will relent to Jesus Christ after He has called up His own. Most who will come to Christ will be of Israel, for whom the two witnesses will come, but for others, it will happen for some very courageous people, but why wait? Do it now, folks!
 
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I think the 7th trumpet announces the first resurrection, the 7 vials of wrath, and day of the Lord (Armageddon), in that order.

No resurrection until... the final 7th vial is poured out. That's the point with Christ saying the following on the 6th vial, (just prior to the 7th vial event)...


Rev 16:15-17
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

That reveals Christ's Church is still... on earth at that 6th vial, just prior to the pouring out of the 7th vial. According to both Apostles Paul and Peter, Christ's coming "as a thief" is to occur on "the day of the Lord" (1 Thess.5; 2 Pet.3:10). The Rev.16:18-21 events are specifically about "day of the Lord" events that occur with the time of Christ's second coming.



Rev.16:16 And He gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, "It is done."
(KJV)

The "great earthquake" of Rev.16:18 is the 7th trumpet - 3rd Woe event of Rev.11 when Christ returns. It's the event of Zechariah 14 with the splitting of the Mount of Olives when Christ's feet touch down there, as also revealed in Acts 1 of how and where He would return.
 

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A problem many get into when studying our Lord's Book of Revelation is with overstressing the order in which the seals, trumpets, and vials were given and written down by John. The tendancy is to try and make the events fit the written order layout, instead of interpreting the event connections with each other.

Our Lord Jesus only gave 7 main signs of the end leading up to His coming and our gathering within His Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24 & Mark 13). Those 7 signs specifically follow the order He gave for the 6 Seals of Rev.6. In the Olivet Discourse, the very last... sign He gave was of His coming and our gathering.

And there's only one true order for the Revelation signs that will perfectly fit all other prophetic Scripture events about the day of Christ's coming. This is why our Lord Jesus gave that "as a thief" time marker on the 6th Vial. Christ's coming is on the 7th seal, 7th trumpet, and 7th vial.
 

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If a person has rejected jesus during this age of Grace, where one is free to choose, it will be very difficult, if not very unlikely, with the strong opposition against all things holy, that one will relent to Jesus Christ after He has called up His own. Most who will come to Christ will be of Israel, for whom the two witnesses will come, but for others, it will happen for some very courageous people, but why wait? Do it now, folks!
The best post I've read...thank you
 

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The best post I've read...thank you

Yet what Lively Stone covered there is not all that's written about the future of unbelievers per Christ's Millennium reign. Zechariah 14 reveals how even those left of the nations that come upon Israel on the last day of this world will still exist during Christ's Millennium reign to come up to Jerusalem and worship The King of hosts, Christ Jesus. Ezekiel 44 reveals how the Levites that strayed when Israel went astray will be priests in charge of the Millennium House, and will bear their iniquity.
 

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If I miss the rapture, I am going to sue Tim LaHaye.....
 

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Confess Jesus Christ Lord and Savior, risen from the dead. Believe with all of their heart, and repent from sin.
 

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Can they still receive Christ if they are left behind ?

Yeah, I don't really believe in a Pre Trib Rapture...but, should I be wrong....I'd have to say that if people woke one morning to find all the Christian's gone...it would probably be one of the best wake up calls ever made! Having read the "left behind" books...as every seems to, I'm sure that some very weird claims would arise...it was the aliens!

Really, what I would say it'd come down to is this: Jesus already foreknows who He will call as His own...

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. (Ephesians 1:3-6 ESV)

So even if the Church is gone, even if the age of Grace has passed, even if there is a period of time that many call the Great Tribulation...if God wants a person as His own...then those people will come to see and believe in Jesus...they will be saved. Everything works together to His will, for our good and His glory.
 

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Shalom, Rach.

Yeah, I don't believe in a pre-trib rapture anymore, either, but my father does, and as a minister and Sunday School teacher, he teaches that those who are left behind will be sent a strong delusion that they should believe a lie:

2 Thess 2:7-12
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
KJV


So, even if they COULD be "saved," they WILL CHOOSE not to be.

(I used to have nightmares waking up and finding all the Christians gone, and I'd ask questions of myself like, "Am I sure I'm saved?" and "What if I'm not?!!" There was a point in my life when I was constantly going forward for the "assurance of my salvation." Scary! And, I'd scare myself on top of that when I'd come home from school and find no one home! ARGH! Sigh. So much time and energy wasted.)