Is There Any Sin Greater Than Another?

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"Jesus answered,"'You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above.Therefore the one who delivered Me to you has the greater sin'" (John 19:11).I have always been taught and always believed that sin is sin, and no sin is worse than another.So, what does Jesus mean by "GREATER" sin?
 

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Good question there Alaphabet...I understand that all sins are equal to each other, since all sins are death.Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.But "Greater" sin, is way beyond my imagination as I can not know that yet.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
 

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"Jesus answered,"'You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above.Therefore the one who delivered Me to you has the greater sin'" (John 19:11).I have always been taught and always believed that sin is sin, and no sin is worse than another.So, what does Jesus mean by "GREATER" sin?
This is talking about those responsible for Christ crucifiction, That would be the kennities, the kennites are the Jews who say they Jews but are not you can read of them in Rev. 2-3 the two churches that taught who these people were only two churches pleasing to God. To understand this verse you need to know the kennites are the descents of Satan through Cain. So another words Christ is putting the blame on Satan and his descendants for his death. It is Satan (and his) that have committed the greater sin as he(Satan) is responsable for starting all sin.John 19:11 "Jesus answered, "Thou couldest have no power at all against Me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered Me unto thee hath the greater sin."Jesus is saying that there is no power, except that God has ordained it. This is clarified by Paul in Romans 13. Jesus is putting the blame where it belonged for the killing. Who were the ones that delivered Jesus up to Pilate? Judas delivered Jesus to the Sanhedrin, and the Sanhedrin, delivered Jesus to Caiaphas, Annas, the chief priests, and all those Kenites that passed judgment on Jesus took the blame. Those are the ones that will be held accountable for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.The church had the greater sin, then did the government that carried out the execution. The religious community who at this time had been infiltraed with kennites had the greater sin, then the soldiers of the political system that held the spear, the whips, and placed the crown of thorns on Jesus head. Yet when Judas had seen the evil act that he had done, he repented in remorse, returned the silver, and the Kenites killed him to keep him silent.
 

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Great answer Kriss. I agreed that the Kenites/Canaanites (sons of Cain) is responsible for Christ's crucifiction...
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Didn't know what Christ was saying when he spake of "greater" sin. Thanks for clearing that up for us.
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Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.God bless you Kriss.
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Yet when Judas had seen the evil act that he had done, he repented in remorse, returned the silver, and the Kenites killed him to keep him silent.
Great post Kriss, but I thought Judas killed himself as it says in Matthew 27:5, "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself."
 

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There is some accounts in early manuscripts that have him being hanged and disbowled you could argue this both ways
 

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There is some accounts in early manuscripts that have him being hanged and disbowled you could argue this both ways
Cool! I guess I didn't know that. Thanks.
 

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The Lord said that He would come and " give to every oneaccording to his work. " (Rev. 22:12) Obviously people'sactions differ, and so therefore will their punishment. Even onearth, the Lord said in the Sermon on the Mount: " Andwhoever says to his brother, 'Raca!'# shall be in danger of thecouncil. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hellfire." (Matt. 5:22). From this it is clear that punishment differswith the difference in degree of the offence. St. Augustinealso made this observation.Concerning this difference in degree of sin, and the Church'sattitude towards it, St. John said: " There is sin leading todeath. I do not say that he should pray about that.All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading todeath." ( 1 John 5:16-17) So, a sin that does not lead to death,can be prayed for, so that the one who has committed it shouldbe given life. Sins which do not lead to death come under theheadings of unintentional sins, sins of ignorance and sins ofnegligence.Obviously there is a great difference between theunintentional sin, and the sin which is carried out with fullintent and determination. Just as there is a big differencebetween sins of ignorance and those committed in fullknowledge. God's justice requires that the punishmentshould be in proportion to the crime.Sins are actually alike in that they exclude one from theKingdom of Heaven, but even those who go to hell sufferdifferent degrees of torture, which is why the Lord said,referring to all the cities which rejected Him and rejected thefaith and rejected His disciples: " Assuredly, I say to you, it willbe more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in theday of judgment than for that city!" (Matt. 10:15)The words 'more tolerable... than' prove the difference inpunishment based on the difference in offence.The difference in sin can be clearly observed from the practicalpoint of view. The person who commits adultery in his mind,for instance, is not like the person who commits the act ofadultery, for the latter, by doing so, has defiled his own bodyand that of someone else too. And the person who commits theact of adultery, is not the same as someone who commits aviolent rape, which is that much, more offensive. And adifferent case again would be that of someone who commitsadultery with a relative whom the law has forbidden him tomarry. (Lev. 20)A person who wishes to do something violent, but doesn't do it,and just keeps it in his mind, is not the same as someone whoactually carries out his violence in physical or verbal form, whoactually does harm to another person and, by his action, causesothers to stumble. The one who only thinks about stealing, isdifferent from the one who actually steals by force.At this point, though, sin becomes multiple or compound,which means that it consists of a number of sins together.The punishment for a multiple sin is greater because it does notrank as a single sin, but as a collection of sins. Someone whoinsults a person will have committed the sin of insulting, butsomeone who insults his father or mother, will have added tohis sin of insulting, another sin which is that of breaking thecommandment to honour your parents. Thus his sin is acompound one, and accordingly his punishment will be harsher.The Bible says in the law of Moses: "If anyone curses his fatheror mother, he must be put to death and his blood will be on hisown head." (Lev. 20:9).Likewise, someone who hit someone else, to whom he was notrelated, used to be subject, after being judged, to the rule, "aneye for an eye; a tooth for a tooth." (Lev. 24:19-20). Butsomeone who hit his father or mother used to be stoned andan even harsher stoning was given for sins committedagainst anything sacred.If someone sins on a holy day, such as a day of fasting, forexample, or a day of taking communion, is held to havecommitted a worse sin, therefore the punishment was moresevere for the sins of the sons of Eli the Priest (1 Sam. 2).May The Lord Blessdaniel2macarius
 

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Hope you dont mind but I do have some issues with your statement. You are going back and forth between old and new testament for examples of punishment. This doesn't apply because after the death on the cross all sin is equal. And all sin requires the same price.True Repentance from the heart. The sin that brings death is speaking of the second death which is death of your soul,which comes from choosing to worship and follow Satan(in other words taking the mark of the beast. (which is worshiping Satan.)There is only one unforgivable sin and that is to refuse the holy spirit at the time Satan puts the elect on trial. it can only be committed by the Elect and only at one time. The elect are told do not premeditate what you will say for the holy ghost will speak through you. This is the same miracle that occurred during Acts to deny this Holy Ghost of your own free will is the ultimate blasphemy.Mar 13:11 But when they shall lead [you], and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
 

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the greatest sin one can commit is pride. Because with pride in our heart you cannot accept God into your heart. If you are always to busy looking down on all else, you cannot look up at God.
 

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thankyou kriss for your reply maybe we can have more discussion on this but i would like to ask a question what do you think blasphemy of the Holy spirit is God blessdaniel2macarius
 

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technically :A contemptuous or profane act, utterance, or writing concerning God or a sacred entity. Mark 3:28-29: "I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.What is it that makes this particular form of blasphemy unforgivable?Because this is the same Holy spirit that came upon the Apostles in the book of Acts. That's why we are told in Mark 13 not to premeditate what we will say. When is this happening ? What is the chapter in Mark about? the signs of the End. What will be happening at the End?The Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast [some] of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. What is the reason for this? To turn the hearts of the children back to their Fathers (plural) Satan and/or Christ. which father will we follow? I think many that have been mislead by antichrist will be saved at this time. When they wittness this miracle
 

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The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is not the unbelief inthe Holy Spirit or His Divinity or His work and it is noinsulting of the Holy Spirit. If the atheists believe, God forgivesthem for their unbelief and their mockery of God and His HolySpirit. All those who followed Macedonius in his heresy and hisdenial of the Divinity of the Holy Spirit, when repented the churchaccepted, them and forgave them.What then is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? And whythere is no forgiveness for it?The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the complete andcontinuous refusal of any work of the Spirit in the heart whichis a life time refusal.As a result of this refusal, man does not repent and accordinglyGod does not forgive him.God in His mercy accepts every repentance and forgives as Hesaid, "The one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out"(John 6:37) and the saints were correct in their saying: "All thatthe Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes toMe I will by no means cast out".Bless youdaniel2macarius
 

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I respect your right to your opinion but disagree if your way were true half the people in the world would not be saved.I hold that the scripture holds and supports this as one time, special type of blasphmas act.Sense it can not be forgiven it must be a sin that the sinner is in full awareness that he is making. I have given scripture to support this.DO NOT PREMEDITATE what you will say as the Holy spirit will speak through you.If you were on trail by the antichrist as scripture says and God brought his Holy spirit upon you and with full knowledge you of your free will denied God so as to save Antichrist from taking your physical life would you not think this unforgivable?
 

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Reading your post Kriss, made me re read the sin in the garden study."To understand this verse you need to know the kennites are the descents of Satan through Cain. So another words Christ is putting the blame on Satan and his descendants for his death. It is Satan (and his) that have committed the greater sin as he(Satan) is responsable for starting all sin."If Cain is the physical son of Satan, then why does The bible say in Gen. 4:1Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. Gen 4:17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.Gen 4:25And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, [said she], hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. Isn't Gen. 4:1 saying that Adam was with Eve and she conceived Cain. Why would that case be different then the other verses I gave
 

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If Cain is the physical son of Satan, then why does The bible say in Gen. 4:1
Note exactly who is saying what:Genesis 4:1Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.God didn't say it, a man(human) said it. What a man says is not always true. This is bolstered by the fact that Cain is not mentioned in the lineage of Adam in the Bible. Cain is never called Adam's son. All we have is this verse here and it is far from being a direct testimony of Cain's parentage by Adam.
 

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The wages of [all] sin is death, but the Gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. That says it all! But greater sins are reffered to in the Bible what does that mean? Rev. 20:11-15 says we who are in the Lambs Book of Life will be with our Lord for ever. Those not in the Book will be judged according to their sins. IMO, Hitler will be deep in the depths of the lake of fire for destroying all those lives, but Joseph Smith will be in an even worse place, for all the souls he condemed.I believe that is what is meant by "greater sin".
 

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The question was is there any sin greater them another that is what i replyed to i dont know why anti-christ has come in to the picture but i do know that there are certain sins that close the doors of heaven to the person doing them if they do not repent for exampleBut if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,5:21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God(Galatians 5:19-21)andFor this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.(Ephesians 5:5-6)and 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.(1 Corinthians 6:9-10)these are just a few but there are others in the Bible to support this God Blessdaniel2macarius
 

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Right, but the unforgivable sin is something important to understand. We have to ask in order to be forgiven otherwise there would be no need for hell if we could do whatever we wanted and be forgiven.The reason the antichrist was brought up is because of Luke 12:Luke 12:8-12Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God: But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God. And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven. And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say: For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.This passage sheds a whole lot of light on the issue.
 

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Sorry Denver, not sure exactly what you are trying to tell me
Note exactly who is saying what:Genesis 4:1Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.God didn't say it, a man(human) said it. What a man says is not always true.
It looks like to me ,that only the second half of that verse is spoken by 'human' Eve said, I have gotten a man from the Lord, but the first half is the inspired word, Isn't it? Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain. Eve is not speaking here , but the author of Genesis, or am I missing something?