How can David write "ancient", when it's modern

In the book, "Hidden Prophecies in the Psalms", J.R. Church makes the point that the Psalms is the 19th book of the bible. He also asserts that the chapters appear to be prophetic to the Jews for the 1900s. Thus book 19, chapter 44 appears to depict the Holocaust; book 19, chapter 48 appears to depict the international recognition of the nation of Israel; etc.

And I would propose that if one is sufficiently familiar with modern Jewish history, (from the Jewish perspective), one could readily assign not only chapter themes, but also specific verse depictions to those respective years.

1. Genesis
2. Exodus
3. Leviticus
4. Numbers
5. Deuteronomy
6. Joshua
7. Judges
8. Ruth
9. 1 Samuel
10. 2 Samuel
11. 1 Kings
12. 2 Kings
13. 1 Chronicles
14. 2 Chronicles
15. Ezra
16.Nehemiah
17.Esther
18.Job
19.Psalms
20.Proverbs
21.Ecclesiastes
22.Song of Solomon
etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_of_the_Authorized_King_James_Version



I think most texts are representative of the KJV sequence of 19. Secondly, did you read the chapters in context with the 1900s as explained? And if so, did you discover what J.R. Church proposed?

Apparently many people wrote into the J.R. Church "Prophecy In The News", and accounted historical events which had this apparent Psalms Chapter for year association, which was the impetus for his book.

According to this premise, if anyone were to take a significant historical event in modern Jewish history, such as the Holocaust, one should find what appears to be a prophecy for the Holocaust in the 44th chapter:

Psalms 44
[sup]11[/sup] You have made us like sheep for slaughter
and have scattered us among the nations.


And if there is significance in repetition, (and possibly numerical ~coincidence~) then one should consider an second verse in this chapter:


Psalms 44
[sup]22[/sup] Yet for your sake we are killed all the day long;
we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.


But to validate this premise, one would be well considered if they compared other Chapters in the Psalms for a potential persistent theme which might carry through this entire Book:


Verse 11 cites the word "meat" (Strong's #H3978)
Verse 22 cites the word "slaughter" (Strong's H#2878)

As such, it's an easy search to find that Strong's #H3978 is found in Psalm 74:14

[sup]14 [/sup]You broke the heads of Leviathan in pieces,
And gave him as food to the people inhabiting the wildernes


And Strongs #H2878 has no other reference for this Book except in this 44th Chapter.



At this point, it would seem this is sufficientially ~coincidental~ to justify further evalutation.

Hi Philip,

I don't disagree that many prophecies have multiple fulfillments, -- especially evident in the Psalms. I'm merely presenting the concept proposed by J.R. Church which appears to parallel modern Jewish history. As such, I would propose that Psalms 44 mirrors the Holocaust. I would equally argue that Psalms 48 mirrors the International recognition of the nation of Israel:

Psalms 48
[sup]4 [/sup]For behold, the kings assembled,
They passed by together.
[sup]5 [/sup]They saw it, and so they marveled;
They were troubled, they hastened away.
[sup]6 [/sup]Fear took hold of them there,
And pain, as of a woman in birth pangs,


For did not the U.N. assembly witness the recognition of this nation, first by the United States, and then Russia, and is now? And what of the ships of Tarshish:


[sup]7 [/sup]As when You break the ships of Tarshish
With an east wind.


How is it that the New Jerusalem relates to this verse?



But I think your agenda has nothing to do with a Prophetic Psalms premise. It would appear that you are as some others who posted in this Forum, who hate the Jews and propose racist ideals. So if my perception is accurate, please allow me to provide the following verse:

Gen. 12
[sup]1[/sup] The LORD had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.
[sup]2[/sup] “I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.
[sup]3[/sup] I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”


Beware.

Psalms 48:7
[sup]7 [/sup]As when You break the ships of Tarshish
With an east wind.


If the J.R Church correctly characterized the Psalms as being Prophetic as proposed in his book "Hidden Prophecies in the Psalms", then certainly one could evaluate the Chapters and verses for historical fulfillments. And as already queried, if Psalms 48, verse 7 cites the "ships of Tarshish", then who is "Tarshish"?

Some Bible dictionaries provide that "Tarshish" is understood as "distant sea trader", and "distant paradise". And certainly history would account that England would have not only been perceived in those THREE characterizations (distant, sea trader, & paradise), but England was also governing the territory the Jew wanted to claim as their homeland. So for the nation of Israel to be recognized, the English authority over Palestine had to be ended,ut the evidence in verse 7 does not simply cite the breaking of that governorship, but alludes to "an east wind".

As such it's important to recall that the nation of England not only governed Palestine, but also India in this 1940's era. And where England lost control of India (the "east wind"), so too it lost control of Palestine. And all this history from one short verse in Chapter 48.



So it begs the audience to consider how much more is to be addressed and how many libraries could be filled with the simple verses of the Psalms in context with the 1900s, chapter for year.






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... but in Psalms 24, there an interesting context:


Psalm 24

[sup]1[/sup] The earth is the LORD's and the fullness thereof, the world and those who dwell therein,
[sup]2[/sup] for he has founded it upon the seas and established it upon the rivers.
[sup]3[/sup] Who shall ascend the hill of the LORD? And who shall stand in his holy place?
[sup]4[/sup] He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false and does not swear deceitfully.
[sup]5[/sup] He will receive blessing from the LORD and righteousness from the God of his salvation.
[sup]6[/sup] Such is the generation of those who seek him, who seek the face of the God of Jacob.
Selah
[sup]7[/sup] Lift up your heads, O gates!
And be lifted up, O ancient doors,
that the King of glory may come in.
[sup]8[/sup] Who is this King of glory?
The LORD, strong and mighty,
the LORD, mighty in battle!
[sup]9[/sup] Lift up your heads, O gates!
And lift them up, O ancient doors,
that the King of glory may come in.
[sup]10[/sup] Who is this King of glory?
The LORD of hosts,
he is the King of glory!
Selah


Here we see the establishment of who God is, then the calling of a peoples, and then the restoration of the ancient doors.

Exactly how can this Psalm be ancient when the doors would be modern?
Or better said, -- how is this Psalm modern, because the doors are ancient?


So if this is a modern prophecy, then was there some fulfillment as to both the conception of a nation, (but not the BIRTH), and a calling of peoples?

Hi Secondhand Lion,

The short answer is yes, based upon simple addition:


1,900 + 99 = 1,999
1,900 + 100 = 2,000
1,900 + 101 = 2,001

... and so forth.

The question is and remains, are there events for not only the 1900's which match Chapter for year, but also for the 2000's which match Chapter for year? And where the former has several significant events to correlate, so too the latter, specifically surrounding the year 2018.

So when considering Psalms 117, one is met with the shortest Chapter in the Bible; when considering 118, one could conceive the return of the Lord; and when considering 119 one is met with the longest Chapter i the Bible. Is there a reason for 117 being the shortest, and 119 being the longest?

One could postulate such a scenario, and that I have done.