Mark of the Beast
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Endtime, you should study much more. The " Mark of the Best " can be a micro chip a tattooed bar code either implanted in your right arm/hand or forehead. It can also be his name or the number of his name.
However, to believe it is a social security number drivers license numbr license plate number/letters, fishing license number/letters credit card/debit card is also have to include bank savings number/letters checking account numbers/letters - numbers/letters on currency accross the entire globe, AND this would mean any use of currency is using the Mark of the Beast and so no one on earth is w/o the mark of the beast including the two witnesses??? sorry your wisdom has failed.
Moreover, the contention is the number or the name OF THE BEAST - so it is not your name nor your number...but his. please study more, and if I can help all you need do is ask. God Bless You.
Oh, yeah.... Endtime said to Aspe2 that Aspen2 has all the Beast's numbers memorized and Aspen2 said "Huh" I Figure Aspen2 does have the Beast's numbers memorized and knows it... for the numbers of the Beast are 666.... and I have the numbers memorized as well and to this I say.... DUH!
Cliff note:
Also, that creepy guy with the bad case of mumps, bumps or acne.... God's Word does tell us to love one another, but it also says not to cast your pearls before swine and what exactly is it one is supposed to do in an encounter with Satan or Satan's demons... what did Jesus do? he put them pigs and let them run over a cliff. In answer... do not take this guy in your Christian home unless you wish your faith destroyed-period.
However, to believe it is a social security number drivers license numbr license plate number/letters, fishing license number/letters credit card/debit card is also have to include bank savings number/letters checking account numbers/letters - numbers/letters on currency accross the entire globe, AND this would mean any use of currency is using the Mark of the Beast and so no one on earth is w/o the mark of the beast including the two witnesses??? sorry your wisdom has failed.
Moreover, the contention is the number or the name OF THE BEAST - so it is not your name nor your number...but his. please study more, and if I can help all you need do is ask. God Bless You.
Oh, yeah.... Endtime said to Aspe2 that Aspen2 has all the Beast's numbers memorized and Aspen2 said "Huh" I Figure Aspen2 does have the Beast's numbers memorized and knows it... for the numbers of the Beast are 666.... and I have the numbers memorized as well and to this I say.... DUH!
Cliff note:
Also, that creepy guy with the bad case of mumps, bumps or acne.... God's Word does tell us to love one another, but it also says not to cast your pearls before swine and what exactly is it one is supposed to do in an encounter with Satan or Satan's demons... what did Jesus do? he put them pigs and let them run over a cliff. In answer... do not take this guy in your Christian home unless you wish your faith destroyed-period.
According to the Bible, it will not be a tattoo, a microchip, etc. Deuteronomy 11:18 proves this hands down. And so does Deuteronomy 6:6-8, Exodus 13:7-9,15-16. The words in our hearts by God, the commands which he gives us are to be a sign upon our hands and forehead. The Beast power works the same way. It has nothing to do with a literal Mark. It's about obediance or disobediance.
Rae, sorry what you posted does not fit the Mark of the Beast. I have little idea how you have arrived at a link putting the Beast's Mark inline with the verses you posted. There is no need to stretch this understanding that far. It is quite simpe. No one will be able to buy or sell without the Beast's Mark it will replace currency. You will not be able to rent an apartment, own a home (even if you already owned it outright before the Mark), you will not be able to own a car, buy fuel for the car, pay your insurance, pay your utility bills, get health care, buy food, you will not eve be able to pay bus fare unless you have this Beast's Mark. How will this begin, well it already has begun.. But fist step is convience... then multiply that convience with "safety" - the kind of safety against finance theft as shown in the following paragraph...
Now, to assist in this understanding... for the second time within the last 6 months, and discovered just an hour or so ago, my debit account has been attatched with charges I never authorized. This time it drained my account before I caught it. This is now Friday and it will not be until Monday that my debit card company will receive my complaint. Now, I am nearly broke for the rest of the month and the tooth extraction I require could be put on hold another month... great. These people have no idea how much they angered me. I asked the debit card company if they have insurance against such things and expect that they have been hacked of my money and they will attempt to put the responsibility on me. But this was an online hack and I made no purchases online. How does this relate? Simple with all this online theft capabilities a more secure method will be given and this is ... welcome to the Mark of the Beast. One can already setup with financial institutions to use your name or your phone or your phone number to purchase goods and services. This was dispalyed in a news broadcast on the television. This really just happened to me. And I am fit to be tied! I usemy Debit card very rarely - usually only once or twice each month, so the money there adds up and it was just depleted to less than $10. I expect this debit card company to do a few things angering me even more... See I want to back-track this robbery and I expect this debit card company will attempt to charge me for that information. If I miust pay it and if I do.. then it will lead to some bank that will not be willing to inform me who stole it or have an account with no real person attatched to tat account meaning that bank knows that account is crooked. Of course, if they knew what they did and the willingness of my resolve... well lets just say... they won't like what they discover.
Moral prepare to make sure this does not happen to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Understand... my understanding of the Beast's Mark was not achieved by stretching any scripture.
Rae, you have this at the bottom of your page....
"Sadly, many professing Christians via the lie that anything done by a 'Christian' is acceptable, have accepted the occult."
Exactly what kind of Christians is it you are in the company of? In my entire life, I have NEVER met a sinlge Christian that held thot belief, that I was aware of. Furthermore, if a Christian did feel that way, it would not mean they chase an occult, but merely mean their underswtanding on that single area is skewed or perverse. And almost ALL Chirstians have certain areas that are skewed or perverse and that inludes your idea of the Beast's Mark, so you are an occult Christian? Please take down your " "Sadly, many professing Christians...." Post
Now, to assist in this understanding... for the second time within the last 6 months, and discovered just an hour or so ago, my debit account has been attatched with charges I never authorized. This time it drained my account before I caught it. This is now Friday and it will not be until Monday that my debit card company will receive my complaint. Now, I am nearly broke for the rest of the month and the tooth extraction I require could be put on hold another month... great. These people have no idea how much they angered me. I asked the debit card company if they have insurance against such things and expect that they have been hacked of my money and they will attempt to put the responsibility on me. But this was an online hack and I made no purchases online. How does this relate? Simple with all this online theft capabilities a more secure method will be given and this is ... welcome to the Mark of the Beast. One can already setup with financial institutions to use your name or your phone or your phone number to purchase goods and services. This was dispalyed in a news broadcast on the television. This really just happened to me. And I am fit to be tied! I usemy Debit card very rarely - usually only once or twice each month, so the money there adds up and it was just depleted to less than $10. I expect this debit card company to do a few things angering me even more... See I want to back-track this robbery and I expect this debit card company will attempt to charge me for that information. If I miust pay it and if I do.. then it will lead to some bank that will not be willing to inform me who stole it or have an account with no real person attatched to tat account meaning that bank knows that account is crooked. Of course, if they knew what they did and the willingness of my resolve... well lets just say... they won't like what they discover.
Moral prepare to make sure this does not happen to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Understand... my understanding of the Beast's Mark was not achieved by stretching any scripture.
Rae, you have this at the bottom of your page....
"Sadly, many professing Christians via the lie that anything done by a 'Christian' is acceptable, have accepted the occult."
Exactly what kind of Christians is it you are in the company of? In my entire life, I have NEVER met a sinlge Christian that held thot belief, that I was aware of. Furthermore, if a Christian did feel that way, it would not mean they chase an occult, but merely mean their underswtanding on that single area is skewed or perverse. And almost ALL Chirstians have certain areas that are skewed or perverse and that inludes your idea of the Beast's Mark, so you are an occult Christian? Please take down your " "Sadly, many professing Christians...." Post
There you go making fun of what people say again Terry. Do you honestly think that you are a tough guy? You were born into the beast and the mark of the beast and are not smart enough to know it. You have been feeding at the breast of the beast sense you were born and because the beast is mama you don't want to hear it. Well you can perish in your delusion if you want. no one can stop you. But when Judgement comes don't say that the Lord didn't tell you.
2 peter 1
21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
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Actually, what Rae has posted about the idea of a mark of the beast is correct. It is a spiritual sealing, just as God's mark of Rev.7 is not a literal outward mark on the body, but a spiritual sealing in the mind and heart by The Holy Spirit.
But that idea of a beast mark is not the same idea as the mark for buying and selling mentioned in Rev.13:16-17, which does represent a literal mark.
The mark God put upon Cain was not a literal mark, but a way of life for Cain to continue. That's the real spiritual mark of the beast; it's about doing the will of the devil, following his ways.
The mark for buying and selling is different, and is literal. One would FIRST have to have Satan's spiritual mark in the mind and heart in order to accept the literal mark for buying and selling.
But that idea of a beast mark is not the same idea as the mark for buying and selling mentioned in Rev.13:16-17, which does represent a literal mark.
The mark God put upon Cain was not a literal mark, but a way of life for Cain to continue. That's the real spiritual mark of the beast; it's about doing the will of the devil, following his ways.
The mark for buying and selling is different, and is literal. One would FIRST have to have Satan's spiritual mark in the mind and heart in order to accept the literal mark for buying and selling.
Terry,
I do not intend to cause any strife, to to bring railing accusations, but I must speak plainly.
Your assertion that it is a literal mark is without Biblical proof. The Bible verses that I outlined prove hands down, that every sign upon the hands and the forehead was not a literal sign. 2 Peter 1:20 tells us that no prophecy is of a private interpretation. God made it abundantly clear what it means to have a sign upon your hands and your forehead. At no time was it a physical, literal, mark upon the children of Israel. Ever. I am not stretching understanding, but searching the scriptures, as the Bible tells us. Scriptures have spoken in regards to the mark not being an absolute literal mark.
As for what's happening with your Debit card, I would head into prayer if I were you. That is something dangerous that cannot be fooled around with. The hands of the wicked man/woman doing this to your account need to be "broken". Not literally, but the wickedness needs to be ended.
As for stretching scripture, again, please show me where God indicates that a mark upon your hands and forehead is a literal mark. Stretching scriptures? Don't let Satan fool you. Paint "searching the scriptures" into "stretching the scriptures" all you want. But, it has not yet been proven sin to search the scriptures, not has it yet been proven that the Mark is physical, literal. If you have no Biblical stance for your beliefs, I suggest you re-look at your beliefs. Again, not to speak evily of you, but I mean to be very plain with you.
The bottom of my page happens to be my signature. I shall not remove my signature. If it offends you, I believe that leaves you to do some soul-searching, and heartfelt prayer. It is not an attack, but a full on observation. For example, tell me how explicit God is about not allowing witchcraft around or dwellings, or practicing them? Yet, how many Christians will read Harry Potter and say, "It's just fiction". Magic is magic, no matter how "pretty" you would like to paint is. Somehow, God despising witchcraft, is made to be "okay" so long as it's fake. Really? p***ography is fake. Does that make it okay for us to watch it? I rest my case.
Exactly how do you interpret Revelation Chapter 13..... as for Me.. I don't
5 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worshipp the image of thebeastt should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poorr, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beastt, or the number of his name.
I am careful not to rule out all posibilities....
Thanks, I am not worried about my debit card theft thingy.. in the end, as always, I will be victorious.
you wrote:
" The bottom of my page happens to be my signature.... " I did not mean to offend you..it was an observation alongside my understanding... as I think it has a negative tone.
I agree with your harry potty thing.. have never cared for it or for how it attemptes to make witchcraft good. I am dead set against it.
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Endtime wrote: "
There you go making fun of what people say again Terry. Do you honestly think that you are a tough guy? You were born into the beast and the mark of the beast and are not smart enough to know it. You have been feeding at the breast of the beast sense you were born and because the beast is mama you don't want to hear it. Well you can perish in your delusion if you want. no one can stop you. But when Judgement comes don't say that the Lord didn't tell you. "
2 peter 1
21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
I do often inject humor, but rarely to make fun of someone. Do I think I think i am a tough guy? - Bud you can't even imagine. Take a walk in my shoes and if you surv... well sorry, but you would not survive. I was hit head-on by a car at 135 plus MPH while on my motorcycle... do that first... then we will discuss what tough is or who is tougher.. until then, concerning toughness....silence is bliss
" You have been feeding at the breast of the beast sense you were born....... " -- Reality Check Please!!!
From what book are you and SoM getting your understanding? I have yet to get a reply.
Please stop.. you have no idea who I am or what I am. Just because I told you to study more does not mean I was making fun of you...I meant you need to study more.
5 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worshipp the image of thebeastt should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poorr, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beastt, or the number of his name.
I am careful not to rule out all posibilities....
Thanks, I am not worried about my debit card theft thingy.. in the end, as always, I will be victorious.
you wrote:
" The bottom of my page happens to be my signature.... " I did not mean to offend you..it was an observation alongside my understanding... as I think it has a negative tone.
I agree with your harry potty thing.. have never cared for it or for how it attemptes to make witchcraft good. I am dead set against it.
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Endtime wrote: "
There you go making fun of what people say again Terry. Do you honestly think that you are a tough guy? You were born into the beast and the mark of the beast and are not smart enough to know it. You have been feeding at the breast of the beast sense you were born and because the beast is mama you don't want to hear it. Well you can perish in your delusion if you want. no one can stop you. But when Judgement comes don't say that the Lord didn't tell you. "
2 peter 1
21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
I do often inject humor, but rarely to make fun of someone. Do I think I think i am a tough guy? - Bud you can't even imagine. Take a walk in my shoes and if you surv... well sorry, but you would not survive. I was hit head-on by a car at 135 plus MPH while on my motorcycle... do that first... then we will discuss what tough is or who is tougher.. until then, concerning toughness....silence is bliss
" You have been feeding at the breast of the beast sense you were born....... " -- Reality Check Please!!!
From what book are you and SoM getting your understanding? I have yet to get a reply.
Please stop.. you have no idea who I am or what I am. Just because I told you to study more does not mean I was making fun of you...I meant you need to study more.
It's good to see that someone will accept what God has said about witchcraft. That is good, stay in prayer about that. Idk how much you know about the occult, but it runs deeper than the books strategically placed to get Christians to cast spells upon themselves. As for my signature, it's not meant to negatively affect people, but it is meant so snap the eyes open of some professing Christians.
Amen to that, good to see even something like that cannot send some Christians into a full blown panic.
As for exactly how I interpret Revelation 13 - I would prefer to use the way the Bible interprets it. Now, I wanna put something up for you.
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. (Revelation 7:3 KJV)
And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. (Revelation 9:4 KJV)
Do we as Christians sincerely believe, an angel is going to come down, and manifest itself and stick a literal, visible seal upon our foreheads, as Christians? Is God going to place a tattoo upon our foreheads, or a literal, visible mark right upon the forehead? The God himself, who specifically commands against any markings like this on the flesh, is going to put something like this on us? No, of course not. That's sily and contradictory.
Each time God makes a command about the something being placed in the mind, and the forehead, it is never a literal application of a mark. It is a spiritual symbol of obediance. Now, I've posted verses and talked about Deuteronomy 6:6-8, 11:18-19, Exodus 13:7-9, 15-16 enough. Every sign, token, and mark was a spiritual application. But I have two more verses for you.
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. (Romans 16:17 KJV)
Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample. (Philippians 3:17 KJV)
Each group of people here who were marked, were not literally marked. People were observed, then marked for their obediance to the walk in the faith, and their disobediance in their walk. They were spiritual applications, and not literal ones.
I leave you to decide if the mark of the beast verses are a spiritual application, or a literal application.
I understand now!! You have debilitating physical trauma that you have not recovered from. if Son of man was here you could come down and he would heal you by the power of God. But no one knows where he went.
Endtime...i mean Son of Man... i mean Endtime (clearly you do not know who you are... tramma??? as in unable to think clearly? lol.. Since that motorcycle accident I became an Amateur radio operator 1993-2003 N8YPS - Also news letter editor FARA. and wrote about electronic theory as well as procedures to chat with astronaughts in space, Plus i became a professional pool player, even giving trick shot demonstrations and teaching. Plus I am a master chess player - try me... plus a computer tech. and a whole lot more... anyone that knows me,knows these things. Plus... I don't hide my identity You are proving yourself intensely lame...try another name please. PS, I really dislike being this harsh, but there is just way too much mesosphere constrained within your cranial matrix.
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Rae wrote: " Do we as Christians sincerely believe, an angel is going to come down, and manifest itself and stick a literal, visible seal upon our foreheads, as Christians? Is God going to place a tattoo upon our foreheads, or a literal, visible mark right upon the forehead? The God himself, who specifically commands against any markings like this on the flesh, is going to put something like this on us? No, of course not. That's sily and contradictory. "
Rae.. there is a huge difference between the Mark of the Beast which is commanded by the Beast and the Mark God Seals only the 144,000 on their foreheads.
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Rae wrote: " Do we as Christians sincerely believe, an angel is going to come down, and manifest itself and stick a literal, visible seal upon our foreheads, as Christians? Is God going to place a tattoo upon our foreheads, or a literal, visible mark right upon the forehead? The God himself, who specifically commands against any markings like this on the flesh, is going to put something like this on us? No, of course not. That's sily and contradictory. "
Rae.. there is a huge difference between the Mark of the Beast which is commanded by the Beast and the Mark God Seals only the 144,000 on their foreheads.
Terry,
I understand what you're pointing to. But you do not have scriptural proof where it is a literal mark. It is a sign upon the disobediants hands and forehead, not literal but you can tell by the obediance and disobediace. There is nothing in the Bible that suggests its literal. Both the Old and the New Testamant show that the signs are not literal, but simply refer to obediance.
I understand what you're pointing to. But you do not have scriptural proof where it is a literal mark. It is a sign upon the disobediants hands and forehead, not literal but you can tell by the obediance and disobediace. There is nothing in the Bible that suggests its literal. Both the Old and the New Testamant show that the signs are not literal, but simply refer to obediance.
The Mark we are discussing is Satanb's Mark and he could desire a picture of a watermelon burned in the skin if he wanted.
It is necessary to first understand what "the wild beast" is before understanding what ' the mark of the beast' entails. At Revelation 13:1, 2, the apostle John sees a "dragon" watching a "wild beast" ascending "out of the sea", having "ten horns and seven heads, and upon its horns ten diadems" and "upon its heads blasphemous names", being composed of "a leopard, but its feet were as those of a bear, and its mouth was as a lion's mouth" that received power or authority from "the dragon".
The "dragon" is identified at Revelation 12:9 as Satan the Devil that was "hurled down to the earth" as a result of the unseen war in heaven immediately following Jesus installation as king of God's kingdom in 1914.(Rev 12:10) What is the "sea" from which the "wild beast" ascends from and on which the "dragon" or Satan is standing ?
The answer is found at Isaiah 57:20, which says: "But the wicked are like the sea that is being tossed, when it is unable to calm down, the waters of which keep tossing up seaweed and mire." Thus, the "sea" is the restless masses of mankind clamoring for their own sovereignty, setting up their autonomous state, their own governmental institutions. This has resulted in some 236 different nations and islands around the earth, with 194 of these as members of the United Nations.
Thus, Satan or the "dragon" is the creator of the political "wild beast" or all political governments of the earth under the one name "wild beast", seeing to its formation and then giving "power and throne and great authority" to it so that it continues to exist. Hence, every political government on the earth, from Afghanistan to the United States to Zambia, are under Satan's "thumb", who is pulling the strings of these governments like a puppet through his demonic angels under his command. After showing Jesus "all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth", Satan tells Jesus: "I will give you all this authority and the glory of them, because it has been delivered to me, and to whomever I wish I give it."(Luke 4:5, 6)
Daniel 7 provides the unlocking clue that the political governments of the earth are "a wild beast", whereby "four huge beasts" are seen "coming up out of the sea"(Dan 7:3), with the first one "like a lion", the second "like a bear", the third "like a leopard" and the 4th "fearsome and terrible and unusually strong."(Dan 7:4-7) These "four huge beasts" are ancient Babylon ("like a lion), Medo-Persia ("like a bear"), Greece ("like a leopard"), and Rome ("fearsome and terrible and unusually strong").
At Revelation 13:16-18, there is seen another "wild beast ascending out of the earth" (not "out of the sea"), having "two horns like a lamb", but "speaking as a dragon". This "wild beast" does not come from the restless masses of mankind, but from within the more politically stable elements of the "first wild beast".(see Rev 12:16) This same "wild beast" is also seen at Daniel 7:8 as a ' small horn' that has "a mouth speaking grandiose things".
Who the is this "wild beast" at Revelation 13:11 ? What world power in these "last days" is an extension of another major power that once dominated the world scene ? America, coming forth from Britain, and declaring its own sovereignty in 1776, but which some 150 years later joined forces with them to form the "seventh king"(Rev 17:10) and final world power of human history as the Anglo-American world power.
It "puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name."(Rev 13:16, 17)
It forces or compels all to give nationalistic allegiance to it as well as to the "1st wild beast" (as well as to the ' 1st wild beast image ', Rev 13:14), with all doing so receiving "a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead". A mark on the forehead in ancient times identified a person as being someone's slave. Thence, having "a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead" gives evidence that a person identifies themselves worshipers of "the wild beast" and are therefore slaves to it. The "mark in their right hand" means that a person gives a "hand of support" to it, such as by running for political office or by voting for political officials.
The "dragon" is identified at Revelation 12:9 as Satan the Devil that was "hurled down to the earth" as a result of the unseen war in heaven immediately following Jesus installation as king of God's kingdom in 1914.(Rev 12:10) What is the "sea" from which the "wild beast" ascends from and on which the "dragon" or Satan is standing ?
The answer is found at Isaiah 57:20, which says: "But the wicked are like the sea that is being tossed, when it is unable to calm down, the waters of which keep tossing up seaweed and mire." Thus, the "sea" is the restless masses of mankind clamoring for their own sovereignty, setting up their autonomous state, their own governmental institutions. This has resulted in some 236 different nations and islands around the earth, with 194 of these as members of the United Nations.
Thus, Satan or the "dragon" is the creator of the political "wild beast" or all political governments of the earth under the one name "wild beast", seeing to its formation and then giving "power and throne and great authority" to it so that it continues to exist. Hence, every political government on the earth, from Afghanistan to the United States to Zambia, are under Satan's "thumb", who is pulling the strings of these governments like a puppet through his demonic angels under his command. After showing Jesus "all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth", Satan tells Jesus: "I will give you all this authority and the glory of them, because it has been delivered to me, and to whomever I wish I give it."(Luke 4:5, 6)
Daniel 7 provides the unlocking clue that the political governments of the earth are "a wild beast", whereby "four huge beasts" are seen "coming up out of the sea"(Dan 7:3), with the first one "like a lion", the second "like a bear", the third "like a leopard" and the 4th "fearsome and terrible and unusually strong."(Dan 7:4-7) These "four huge beasts" are ancient Babylon ("like a lion), Medo-Persia ("like a bear"), Greece ("like a leopard"), and Rome ("fearsome and terrible and unusually strong").
At Revelation 13:16-18, there is seen another "wild beast ascending out of the earth" (not "out of the sea"), having "two horns like a lamb", but "speaking as a dragon". This "wild beast" does not come from the restless masses of mankind, but from within the more politically stable elements of the "first wild beast".(see Rev 12:16) This same "wild beast" is also seen at Daniel 7:8 as a ' small horn' that has "a mouth speaking grandiose things".
Who the is this "wild beast" at Revelation 13:11 ? What world power in these "last days" is an extension of another major power that once dominated the world scene ? America, coming forth from Britain, and declaring its own sovereignty in 1776, but which some 150 years later joined forces with them to form the "seventh king"(Rev 17:10) and final world power of human history as the Anglo-American world power.
It "puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name."(Rev 13:16, 17)
It forces or compels all to give nationalistic allegiance to it as well as to the "1st wild beast" (as well as to the ' 1st wild beast image ', Rev 13:14), with all doing so receiving "a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead". A mark on the forehead in ancient times identified a person as being someone's slave. Thence, having "a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead" gives evidence that a person identifies themselves worshipers of "the wild beast" and are therefore slaves to it. The "mark in their right hand" means that a person gives a "hand of support" to it, such as by running for political office or by voting for political officials.
You have posted Revelation 13 before, but this does not prove your point at all. It is the verse in question, and you have to prove your assertion.
No.
There is no Scriptured evidence linking Satan's Mark must be like any mark God used for any reason, any link is is conjured by the person wanting it to be so.
In a foundation I used to arrive at my personal understanding... I realized that Satan's method of gaining control is through science as a basis. He cannot do his work to man, but rather through man. (of course this is a generalization) As example.. if it were possible for Satan as fter losing at Armageddon to utterly destroy the earth and all on it... he would need the weapons man has developed. Science is his ways to a end, and is why he will not destroy the internet that people can get informed. Instead he wants all this communication abilities and so.. we have ipods iphones computers smart phones cable tv and such.Imagine Satan stripped of God's main frame computer system, when Satan is cast unto the earth... and then w/o this information highway... him trying to controi every person on earth. Once you arrive at his desire to use science why would you think he will want to emulate God's way of marking people? When you arrive at the depth of what I had just written you will see the light.
In a foundation I used to arrive at my personal understanding... I realized that Satan's method of gaining control is through science as a basis. He cannot do his work to man, but rather through man. (of course this is a generalization) As example.. if it were possible for Satan as fter losing at Armageddon to utterly destroy the earth and all on it... he would need the weapons man has developed. Science is his ways to a end, and is why he will not destroy the internet that people can get informed. Instead he wants all this communication abilities and so.. we have ipods iphones computers smart phones cable tv and such.Imagine Satan stripped of God's main frame computer system, when Satan is cast unto the earth... and then w/o this information highway... him trying to controi every person on earth. Once you arrive at his desire to use science why would you think he will want to emulate God's way of marking people? When you arrive at the depth of what I had just written you will see the light.
I watched Jack Van Impe earlier and he nearly came right out and claimed Obama as the Beast also known as the anti-christ. Please do not think I follow Jack Van Impe... I have known for 2 decades his teaching are often false... I Sincerely hope he is trying his best to become a righteous teacher but he has not fulfilled that yet. Of course, I sincerely hope all prophecy teachers reach righteousness.
Do I believe Obama is the Beast/Anti-christ? Nope... though I am not tossing that ability away.
Do I believe Obama is the Beast/Anti-christ? Nope... though I am not tossing that ability away.
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