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A God should be complete in every single way possible. They should not need anything. A God does not feel lonely. So why would a God make us? Love? A God is the pinnacle of completeness. God is complete. There is no need for us. And if miracles happen, God is biased. If we are here for what we believe in, why does God and angels interfere and cause miracles. So he performs miracles to help a select few out? Miracles never happen. God doesn’t prove himself to anyone. It is on faith alone that you can call yourself a servant of God. God does not choose a select few to help.. There is no such thing as a miracle in this modern day world. The bible is supposed to be the tongue of God. But really, today’s bible is an edited version... Man has tainted the bible. The holy scripture of God itself. Men have abused this world in every single way possible. Nothing can escape the taint of man. Everything that comes in contact with man, becomes tainted. The bible is not an exception.I was a Christian, but now I can't think past these thoughts. If you can, shine light into my path...
 
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Well, man isn't perfect. Sure theres been a development of the Bible of some sorts. But the Dead sea scrolls and related texts has shown that the Hebrew scribes were very accurate, meticousily accurate. Imagine after 2000 years, the Word of God having a 95% accuracy, and most of those errors are language changes and pen slips. I think Josh McDowell did a study that says, theres more written about the bible than any other book, I think Socrates came in a very distant 2nd.
 

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A God should be complete in every single way possible. They should not need anything. A God does not feel lonely. So why would a God make us? Love? A God is the pinnacle of completeness. God is complete. There is no need for us.
The scriptures say that God is love in 1 John 4:8... Love gets lonelly with nothing to love.
And if miracles happen, God is biased. If we are here for what we believe in, why does God and angels interfere and cause miracles. So he performs miracles to help a select few out? Miracles never happen. God doesn’t prove himself to anyone. It is on faith alone that you can call yourself a servant of God. God does not choose a select few to help.. There is no such thing as a miracle in this modern day world.
For a few reasons.. To demonstrate his power to the unbelievers who witness them. And to demonstrate his love to those whom they benefit.
The bible is supposed to be the tongue of God. But really, today’s bible is an edited version... Man has tainted the bible. The holy scripture of God itself. Men have abused this world in every single way possible. Nothing can escape the taint of man. Everything that comes in contact with man, becomes tainted. The bible is not an exception.
Don't you think that if God wanted to keep the bible in tact, He can? He did. You dont have to read the kings james version, etc.. you can study the original hebrew(old testament) and greek(new testament) manuscripts that the bible is composed from without having to learn the language. There is software available today like E-sword, plus there are lexicons and what is called Strong's Exhaustive Concordance. And like ÐøÞÞlégäñgèr mentioned, even our translations are 95% accurate. All the main points are in tact and are re-emphasized throughout the bible.
 

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A God should be complete in every single way possible. They should not need anything. A God does not feel lonely. So why would a God make us? Love? A God is the pinnacle of completeness. God is complete. There is no need for us.
And you're basing this off of what experience?Proverbs 2:6 For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
And if miracles happen, God is biased. If we are here for what we believe in, why does God and angels interfere and cause miracles. So he performs miracles to help a select few out? Miracles never happen. God doesn’t prove himself to anyone. It is on faith alone that you can call yourself a servant of God. God does not choose a select few to help.. There is no such thing as a miracle in this modern day world.
Matthew 22:14For many are called, but few are chosen.Many are called but they don't always cut it. That's not God's problem since the fault would lie with those that cannot seem to get it right. It's simple, if you're in a profession in life, if you get called to do a job that you're supposed to do and you cannot do it, what happens?Miracles are clearly in the plan of God, but it goes back to my first statement. Where do you draw this knowledge from of God? Your life experience of say - 20,30,40 years? The Bible has been around for a couple thousand now yet people are still desperately trying to prove it wrong.
The bible is supposed to be the tongue of God. But really, today’s bible is an edited version... Man has tainted the bible. The holy scripture of God itself. Men have abused this world in every single way possible. Nothing can escape the taint of man. Everything that comes in contact with man, becomes tainted. The bible is not an exception.
Man taints everything but you're relying on his logic in what you have posted on this thread? Do you trust this more or do you trust the Word of a loving God that wrote this for all of us where man can only superficially meddle? Afterall, we have many of the ancient manuscripts we need out there to go back and correct any errors King James's men made.
I was a Christian, but now I can't think past these thoughts. If you can, shine light into my path...
Psalm 119:105Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.The answers are there, you just have to seek them out.
 

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What good is Love if you cannot express or share with one another ? 2 Timothy 3:16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,2 Peter 1:20Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretationAmos 4:13He who forms the mountains, creates the wind, and reveals his thoughts to man, he who turns dawn to darkness, and treads the high places of the earth— the LORD God Almighty is his name.Micah 4:12But they do not know the thoughts of the LORD; they do not understand his plan, he who gathers them like sheaves to the threshing floor.1Corinthians 1:18 - 31Christ the Wisdom and Power of God 18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."[c] 20Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength. 26Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, 29so that no one may boast before him. 30It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord."I was a Christian, but now I can't think past these thoughts. If you can, shine light into my path...[/QUOTE]Be encourage,take heart and He is waiting for you to invite Him in As our Lord who is the LIGHT of the world brings light to me and those who acknowledged Him will also guide you from your darkness into His glorious LIGHT
 

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Yes, there are two major translations.Bisentine and Alexandrian text.The edited Bibles you were talking about are the NIV, NSV... etc. They come from the Alexandrian text. There are verses missing, and misinterpreted meanings. You can't really trust those Bibles.However, the traditional Bisentine text, KJV, NKJV, and like the orthodox Russian Bibles are much, much more correct. You may have heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Well, archeologists have found a treasure cove of like 70,000 scrolls (many were re-written from previous scrolls because old ones would fall apart). And they compared these scrolls (The books of our Bible including others) and there are virtually no errors. And these scrolls are dated further back than those of the Alexandrian text.Now lets talk about the Alexandrian text. I don't remember the exact number, but they either had 900 or 9,000 scrolls. All I remember is that there is a HUGE difference in numbers of scrolls between the two. So, they compared the Dead Sea Scrolls to the Alexandrian text and they found that the Alexandrian text is far less reliable.Then they compared the Dead Sea Scrolls to the KJV. And they only found about 95-98% the same. And like ryangrom stated, "most of those errors are language changes and pen slips."The translators were so worried about ruined translations, that if any scroll had a grammatical error, they'd throw the whole thing out.
 

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Wakka...while the NKJV appears to be the same text (Bisentine) as the KJB...To be honest with you Wakka, New King James Version uses both text (Bisentine and Alexandrian) in their bible. It was a clever way for the Devil to deceive as many as they can...But if you have to trust that NKJV, take it with caution, cause I'm only sticking with one that I know it is God's Words.Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
 

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Revelation 22:18,1918 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. Deuteronomy 4Obedience Commanded 1 Hear now, O Israel, the decrees and laws I am about to teach you. Follow them so that you may live and may go in and take possession of the land that the LORD, the God of your fathers, is giving you. 2 Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you.These warnings are given to those who might purposefully distort the message in this book.We too must handle the Bible with care and great respect so that we do not distort its message.even unintentionally.We should be quick to put its principles into practice in our lives.No human explanation or interpretation of God's Word should be elevated to the same authority as the text itself
 

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Deuteronomy 4:2 NIV - Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you.Deuteronomy 4:2 KJV - Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.Two different complete meaning.Romans 1:25 NIV - They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. (Also NLT, NKJV etc)Romans 1:25 KJV - Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.NIV removed at least 7 Bible Verses, Same with NLT.Omitted (Removed) Mathew 17:21, Matthew 18:11, Mark 7:16, Mark 9:44, Mark 9:46, Mark 11:26, Luke 17:36, Luke 23:17, Acts 8:37, Acts 24:7 and much more[url="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=%20Matthew%2017:21,%2018:11,%2023:14,%20%20Mark%207:16,%209:44,%209:46,%2011:26,%2015:28,%20Luke%2017:36,%2023:17,%20John%205:4,%20Acts%208:37,%2015:34,%2024:7,%2028:29,%20Romans%2016:24;&version=31;]NIV Omitted (Removed) Verses, Click here![/url]NLT Omitted (Removed) Verses, Click here!ESV Omitted (Removed) Verses, Click here!Darby Translations Omitted (Removed) Verses, Click here!The Message Omitted (Removed) Verses, Click here!The Amplified Version Omitted Mark 9:44,46 Click here!Holman Christian Standard Bible Omitted (Remove) Acts 15:34 Click here!I am going through a Sword with everyone. I rather warn everybody from deception than not able to share with everyone and not loving them.Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
 

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A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14530a.htmIV. TRANSMISSION OF THE TEXTNo book of ancient times has come down to us exactly as it left the hands of its author--all have been in some way altered. The material conditions under which a book was spread before the invention of printing (1440), the little care of the copyists, correctors, and glossators for the text, so different from the desire of accuracy exhibited today, explain sufficiently the divergences we find between various manuscripts of the same work.Wallahu a'lam.