50 Biblical reasons that the jew is not an Israelite

Romans 2:29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.

Romans 9:1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, 2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. 3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4 Who are Israelites; to whom [pertaineth] the adoption...'


Regarding Hebrews11, there are two Jews (by the original definition) mentioned - Rahab and David.


I don't know whether you've deliberately based many of your 50 questions on false premises, or, your point is that people don't know what they're talking about. Either way, the mixing up of different eras of human history with a discussion about how to define a Jew or an Israelite (naturally only) is likely to lead to more heat than light.

As I read Peter's quotation of Exodus 19: 4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and [how] I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself. 5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth [is] mine: 6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation'. he seems to be saying that the church has become that 'holy nation', (where 'holy' means 'set apart unto God', and 'nation' means 'born again of His Spirit'. By the time Moses was preparing them for his own decease, he was teaching the Israelites a song about how they would depart from obeying God.

Additionally I note that both Peter and Paul have no difficulty including non-Isrealite/Jewish Christians as part of Israel going forward under the New Covenant, while simultaneously connecting unbelieving Jews with Gentiles.

Further, in Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee', Paul makes an unmistakable link between passing through physical death into physical resurrection, and being 'begotten', which might make us suspect that we are not fully 'born again' until we too have passed through physical death and physical resurrection.

This may explain the first chapter of Peter's first epistle, and his choice of 'begotten again unto a lively hope'.


The fact is, unless a person - of whatever nationality - can recognise the need to be grafted into Christ's death, as a prerequisite to being grafted into His life, they are going to place undue emphasis on their natural attributes (such as nationality). Whereas, a dead person's nationality is a moot point with regard to what they will be when they awake in their tomb (as a new creation). and that includes natural Israel, including natural Jews: hence 'the adoption'.

I don't think you can prove from scripture, that NO JEW ever fulfilled God's commands.

Can you?



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Hi Blux,

You offer 2 Kings 16:6 as the first time 'Jews' are mentioned. The only sense to be made of this new word in scripture is that it refers to the house of Judah. In my previous replies to you, it is to this very convention that I refer. The word 'Judahite' does not appear in the KJV.

2 Kings 16:1 In the seventeenth year of Pekah the son of Remaliah, [king of Israel], Ahaz the son of Jotham king of Judah began to reign.
2 Kings 16:5 Then Rezin king of Syria and Pekah son of Remaliah king of Israel came up to Jerusalem to war: and they besieged Ahaz, but could not overcome [him].

King David is listed as an Israelite, not a jew.

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That's because he predates - as you have pointed out - the first use of the term 'Jew'; but there can be no dispute that he was descended from Judah - the basis of the word 'Jew'. Likewise, when Rahab married David's great, great grandfather, she became (through being one flesh with her husband) a member of the tribe of Judah. Immediately you can see that the thing that overrides a person's natural birth, is their relationship with God. After the children of Israel became a nation (Sinai), this meant keeping the law.

How does 'nation' mean "born again of His spirit"? All concordances record that nation is used to denote a tribe, a family, a race, a seedline... genetics. Even in the NT, nation still denotes this.

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I think I've partly answered this in my previous sentence. It can be risky to take too much of one's theology from sconcordance (or secular dictionaries - not that you mentioned the latter), precisely because of the need for the Holy Spirit to give understanding and meaning to the reading of scripture. I accept that 'nation' usually refers to natural birth, and mostly in the Old Testament that's what 'nation' is meant to mean. But, when God refers to Israel (the spiritual name He gave to Jacob the natural man) as 'my son', can this mean a 'natural' birth?

Of course, in the New Testament, 'nations' often refers to natural birth, but when Peter, in his first epistle, second chapter, is referring to those who have been born again - both Israelites and Gentiles - by quoting Exodus 19:5 '... ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people', and 6 '... ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation', how can he be referring to one 'nation' (of the same origin), unless their Father is God?

This is the basis for calling the Church, the 'new' Israel.

The question of 'who is a Jew' these days, as I explained in the other thread, was muddied long, long ago by God opening the door to proselytes way back in Exodus 12:43 And the LORD said unto Moses and Aaron, This [is] the ordinance of the passover: There shall no stranger eat thereof: 44 But every man's servant that is bought for money, when thou hast circumcised him, then shall he eat thereof. 45 A foreigner and an hired servant shall not eat thereof... 48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. 49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. 50 Thus did all the children of Israel; as the LORD commanded Moses and Aaron, so did they. 51 And it came to pass the selfsame day, [that] the LORD did bring the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt by their armies.

Understanding this makes sense of what Paul wrote at the end of Romans 2. When he was referring to Gentiles, he was referring to the uncircumcised with hands - unless they came to faith in Jesus Christ, thereby receiving the circumcision of heart. His point to the Jews, was, that they also required circumcision of the heart to be accepted with God through faith in Jesus Christ. Then, the Holy Spirit would help them [all] obey Him.

Exodus 32:9 And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it [is] a stiffnecked people:

Deuteronomy 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked. (Romans 2:1 - 4)

Christ came only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel, and never did He change His mind. he was quite adamant about it.

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He was speaking of the whole house of Israel (that is, of all the descendants of Jacob, who were entitled to be considered naturally 'children of Israel'). And, by preaching in Judea at all, He was indicating God's intention to reunite the two kingdoms in Himself. (That's where the locals were called 'Jews'.)

Therefore, I don't agree that the 'other flock' was Judah, because there cannot have been an Israelite alive who didn't understand that the apostasy of the ten tribes under Jeroboam was why they had eventually been scattered all over the earth by God.

God used this for His own purposes - to make His name known amongst the heathen - as well as promising to bring them back together, many times.

Micah 5:7 And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many people as a dew from the LORD, as the showers upon the grass, that tarrieth not for man, nor waiteth for the sons of men.

The territory which the kingdom of Israel (the ten tribes) had inhabited (legitimately), where Jeroboam had set up the two golden calves and made priest of the basest of the people to keep the feast days he had devised out of his own heart, was invaded, overcome, and intermarriage took place. Eventually the scribes stopped referring to it as 'Israel', and started calling Samaria. Finally, they stopped calling the inhabitants 'Israelites' and started calling them Samaritans.

However, it's clear that it's not that simple either. Without doubt, members of all twelve tribes were dwelling in Judah, and they retained their distinctiveness from unproseletysed Gentiles, even during the exile to Babylon. I'm partly basing this statement on Paul's comment in Acts 26:6 And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God unto our fathers: 7 Unto which [promise] our twelve tribes, instantly serving [God] day and night, hope to come. For which hope's sake, king Agrippa, I am accused of the Jews. And, Romans 9:1 - 5. Notice in v 4 how he puts 'adoption' at the very start of the list which follows: Who are Israelites; to whom [pertaineth] the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service [of God], and the promises;

This ties in with my explanation above, of 'nation', and, so does the whole of Ephesians 2, espcially v 18:For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Romans 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with [him], that we may be also glorified together.

Another thing about Eph 2:18 is Paul's use of the word 'both'. That means there were only two parties being 'made one' in Christ Jesus - Israelites and Gentiles. This is the explanation for the 'other flock' in John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd. Natually, Jesus sees all the children of Israel [Jacob] as 'one fold' rather than two.

Also, there are times when a Gentile is acting as a shepherd of Israel for God, when their own kings have failed to obey Him - like Cyrus.

If the jews themselves say that modern jewry is Edom, and God hated Esau, then what does that say?

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I don't know about 'modern jewry', but it would be possible to read Joshua carefully to find out whether that statement is true.

If Canaanites could become Jews through circumcision, then there can be nothing to stop Edomites doing the same thing. Back in the law, there were rules for who a Levite could marry (or not), so I'm not sure if what I've heard - that Edomites had joined the priesthood - can be true. But, if they were legally 'Jews', then maybe it's possible that Caiaphas was an Edomite - which is something I've heard but am not sure if is true.

John 11:49 And one of them, [named] Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, 50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not. 51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; 52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

My own view of interpretations given by the apostles, whether of prophesy or doctrine, is that we cannot argue with their revelation. If we don't 'get it' then we have to keep studying and seeking the Lord until we do, for the sake of our own souls as much as for those who listen to us.

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I thought the word or true meaning of Israel is a people of God, 'Gods people', so it has noting to do with race at all.

As when we look into why the one who called Jacob Israel ? then we see why it was so.

The tribe of Israel does not mean you are an "Israel" at all,
But more like a people who were baptised in a way that the fruit would come forth as it should or can. as when one wakes up so to speak. then one gets born again and from that point of time you are just a baby so to speak and you have the seed to grow but Satan will have a go at you and try to rob you, by leading you away from the light. and he did this with the tribe of Israel back then, as he does now to all people.

As far as Europe goes i think it is Christianity that has lead the world to greatness as we can see the fruit of it's work in Christ. but we can also see Satan at work all throughout history first leading the poor Jews astray and even to there being vomited out of the land.

And we Christians nations are now at this point of time, are now being lead into destruction from following all these stupid false idols.

There is no hop in the Jews at all. as they lost there way back then and have no hope at all ever, but for the coming of to Christ, so the fact is, all and i mean all people must come to Jesus Christ as this is the only way, as there is no other way ! that leads to salvation.
The Jewish people can come to Christ and many have done so.
I think the blindness the Jews are under, is just steaming from ignorance and it feeds from a lot of bigoted worldly stupidity.
And if anyone thinks the Jews are going to be there salvation, God help you as that's just mans works lead by Satan. not to mention an full on attack on Jesus Christ.

Hi Mr Rosenberger,

thought the word or true meaning of Israel is a people of God, 'Gods people', so it has noting to do with race at all.

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It has nothing to do with 'race' (meaning physically and genetically), you are right. But 'Israel' doesn't mean 'Gods people' according to Strong's Definitions, and I've checked this with a Hebrew scholar - that Strong is correct:

'03478 Yisra'el {yis-raw-ale'}
from 08280 and 0410;; n pr m
AV - Israel 2489, Israelites 16; 2505
Israel = "God prevails"
1) the second name for Jacob given to him by God after his wrestling
with the angel at Peniel
2) the name of the descendants and the nation of the descendants of Jacob
2a) the name of the nation until the death of Solomon and the split
2b) the name used and given to the northern kingdom consisting of
the 10 tribes under Jeroboam; the southern kingdom was known as
Judah
2c) the name of the nation after the return from exile


To Blux,

Note 2c in Strong's definition? By the time it became the convention to refer again to the 'nation' as 'Israel', the term 'Jews' had been in use for over two hundred and fifty years. This would also justify Jesus in calling upon 'the lost sheep of the house of Israel'. He was preaching to a very mixed crowd (if you include those who trailed over from Decapolis, and the Romans).


As far as Europe leading the world to greatness, Europe has certainly paid an extremely high price through the continuing counter-reformation which took so many lives five hundred years ago, and continues to be bombarded and ravaged by regular uprisings of anti-truth ideologies and political manoeverings.

dragonfly said:

Hi Mr Rosenberger,

It has nothing to do with 'race' (meaning physically and genetically), you are right. But 'Israel' doesn't mean 'Gods people' according to Strong's Definitions, and I've checked this with a Hebrew scholar - that Strong is correct:

'03478 Yisra'el {yis-raw-ale'}
from 08280 and 0410;; n pr m
AV - Israel 2489, Israelites 16; 2505
Israel = "God prevails"
1) the second name for Jacob given to him by God after his wrestling
with the angel at Peniel
2) the name of the descendants and the nation of the descendants of Jacob
2a) the name of the nation until the death of Solomon and the split
2b) the name used and given to the northern kingdom consisting of
the 10 tribes under Jeroboam; the southern kingdom was known as
Judah
2c) the name of the nation after the return from exile


To Blux,

Note 2c in Strong's definition? By the time it became the convention to refer again to the 'nation' as 'Israel', the term 'Jews' had been in use for over two hundred and fifty years. This would also justify Jesus in calling upon 'the lost sheep of the house of Israel'. He was preaching to a very mixed crowd (if you include those who trailed over from Decapolis, and the Romans).


As far as Europe leading the world to greatness, Europe has certainly paid an extremely high price through the continuing counter-reformation which took so many lives five hundred years ago, and continues to be bombarded and ravaged by regular uprisings of anti-truth ideologies and political manoeverings.

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Gods people ? how so can one say so, is it due to the fact that Jacob was called Israel for a reason ? as if you look into that position, where in the bible you will find out why.
The point of a tribe is only just that, as in fact it was only one child who was born after Jacob became Israel and he was greater then all of his brothers and his father knew it. and his brothers did not like it at all.
If an Angel was to call one Israel then that would be a fact, but for anyone other to call themselves Israel, well they may be having them selves on, would you think.

So we have one that is called Israel that was Jacob and no one can be Israel, 'but for it to be a fact', only truley in the light of Jacob becoming Israel ? the rest is just a tribe of Israel and that does not mean they are in fact a Israel at all but only one of the members just as with Christians ? like a baptised people and that is all. that means they are not like born again but the hope is there in the tribe for this seed to grow.
We see baptised people go astray don't we and the same was true in the tribe of Israel. and what about the prodigal son he came back and it was good he came back, but see what he lost to.

Hi Mr Rosenberger,

So we have one that is called Israel that was Jacob and no one can be Israel, 'but for it to be a fact', only truley in the light of Jacob becoming Israel ? the rest is just a tribe of Israel and that does not mean they are in fact a Israel at all but only one of the members

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You raise an interesting point here, which I will try to divide up in my reply.

Jacob was the one person in relationship with God, at the time God gave him his new name Israel, to acknowledge his change of heart from being a jacob - a supplanter. In this case, God prevailed over Jacob, but Jacob put up a good fight to be blessed by his conqueror.

Once Jacob's children were born - 'the children of Israel' - they were just natural men, not in the close relationship with God, that Jacob had entered. His children had been circumcised, because God had told Abraham circumcision was to be carried out on all his male descendants, as a sign of God's covenant with Abraham, but like Jacob when he was first born and circumcised, Abraham's descendants were not born into a close relationship with God. As will Esau, they all had their own agendas, and we see this in the account of their activities. However, as Paul refers to in Romans 11:28, those children who were yet to be born (while in the loins of their fathers) were counted by God as special to Him, until they rebelled against Him. So, the children were blessed because of their fathers, and not because of something they had done for themselves, in relationship with God.

the rest is just a tribe of Israel and that does not mean they are in fact a Israel at all but only one of the members

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They were 'Israel' in name and culture, but not in heart.

just as with Christians ? like a baptised people and that is all. that means they are not like born again but the hope is there in the tribe for this seed to grow

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I'm not quite sure what you mean by this, unless you are referring to infant baptism?

What I want to show about baptism is, that only as a believer is baptised into Christ, are they able to be born again by His Spirit. It is not something inherited from parents, or going to church, or fulfilling external ordinances such as having been baptised as a baby, or, learning BIble verses - although for some who experienced this, and the prayers of faithful parents, they believe it made a difference to God's hand on their lives. Even God's hand on one's life, is not the same as becoming a child of God by the Holy Spirit.

We see baptised people go astray don't we and the same was true in the tribe of Israel. and what about the prodigal son he came back and it was good he came back, but see what he lost to.

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Perhaps what the prodigal son lost was necessary? And perhaps there is a message to Israelites today in it? That they can bring nothing to the Father in bargain for their souls. They must come empty-handed (as we all do), and the Father, through His Son, will give them all things which pertain to life and godliness.

Luke 15:31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.

2 Peter 1:to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: 2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that [pertain] unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

In the history of Israel, God's blessings were usually delivered in terms of prosperity and physical safety, but the 'blessing' in the New Testament is that which was promised to Abraham, which he himself did not experience as we do through the Holy Spirit's indwelling:

Galatians 3:14
That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ;
that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

It is the new birth; it brings spiritual blessings - health to the soul, mind, spirit and body, and, victory over sin. It's a different kind of prosperity, and it's experienced individually, just as Abraham, Isaac and Jacob had to have individual relationships with God.

dragonfly said:

Hi Mr Rosenberger,

You raise an interesting point here, which I will try to divide up in my reply.

Jacob was the one person in relationship with God, at the time God gave him his new name Israel, to acknowledge his change of heart from being a jacob - a supplanter. In this case, God prevailed over Jacob, but Jacob put up a good fight to be blessed by his conqueror.

Once Jacob's children were born - 'the children of Israel' - they were just natural men, not in the close relationship with God, that Jacob had entered. His children had been circumcised, because God had told Abraham circumcision was to be carried out on all his male descendants, as a sign of God's covenant with Abraham, but like Jacob when he was first born and circumcised, Abraham's descendants were not born into a close relationship with God. As will Esau, they all had their own agendas, and we see this in the account of their activities. However, as Paul refers to in Romans 11:28, those children who were yet to be born (while in the loins of their fathers) were counted by God as special to Him, until they rebelled against Him. So, the children were blessed because of their fathers, and not because of something they had done for themselves, in relationship with God.

They were 'Israel' in name and culture, but not in heart.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this, unless you are referring to infant baptism?

What I want to show about baptism is, that only as a believer is baptised into Christ, are they able to be born again by His Spirit. It is not something inherited from parents, or going to church, or fulfilling external ordinances such as having been baptised as a baby, or, learning BIble verses - although for some who experienced this, and the prayers of faithful parents, they believe it made a difference to God's hand on their lives. Even God's hand on one's life, is not the same as becoming a child of God by the Holy Spirit.

Perhaps what the prodigal son lost was necessary? And perhaps there is a message to Israelites today in it? That they can bring nothing to the Father in bargain for their souls. They must come empty-handed (as we all do), and the Father, through His Son, will give them all things which pertain to life and godliness.

Luke 15:31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.

2 Peter 1:to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: 2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that [pertain] unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

In the history of Israel, God's blessings were usually delivered in terms of prosperity and physical safety, but the 'blessing' in the New Testament is that which was promised to Abraham, which he himself did not experience as we do through the Holy Spirit's indwelling:

Galatians 3:14
That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ;
that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

It is the new birth; it brings spiritual blessings - health to the soul, mind, spirit and body, and, victory over sin. It's a different kind of prosperity, and it's experienced individually, just as Abraham, Isaac and Jacob had to have individual relationships with God.

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Being baptised i would say is very important as if you were a christian parent then it is up to you to bring your children up as Christians, as why would you not and just like as Jacob did himself they all became as such.
Now as for someone that never knew about our lord and saviour, and coming into being baptised is one thing, but i would say that a christian that does not baptise there children is foolish or must not know Jesus Christ and is not born again.
Being born again does not meant you have arrived but you are only a baby in Christ and it's from there on that you can grow in Christ.
Baptism does not save you but it is a commitment of a christian to bring your child up as a christian we have god fathers and god mothers that do encourage one to the Lord as they have made a commitment to such.

Hi MR ROSENBERGER,

Many people have noted that baptism of infants is not recorded in the New Testament. Likewise, many parents believe it makes a difference to their children (and them) if they receive baptism long before they are old enough to become Christians and receive believer's baptism.

I am not sure how much this practice matters to the Lord. The church I was attending when my children were born, believed in Dedicating babies to the Lord in a service very similar to a baptismal service - except without water. The congregation were asked to agree to pray for the child, and that the child would come into a full understanding and knowledge of the Lord. Sometimes at these services, many good things were prayed for the baby. It felt just as secure a commitment as a baptism would have felt, without going beyond what is written in scripture.

dragonfly said:

Hi MR ROSENBERGER,

Many people have noted that baptism of infants is not recorded in the New Testament. Likewise, many parents believe it makes a difference to their children (and them) if they receive baptism long before they are old enough to become Christians and receive believer's baptism.

I am not sure how much this practice matters to the Lord. The church I was attending when my children were born, believed in Dedicating babies to the Lord in a service very similar to a baptismal service - except without water. The congregation were asked to agree to pray for the child, and that the child would come into a full understanding and knowledge of the Lord. Sometimes at these services, many good things were prayed for the baby. It felt just as secure a commitment as a baptism would have felt, without going beyond what is written in scripture.

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Well it does not come across as such in the Bible because it goes with out saying doesn't it.
I am a Christian and because of that my child is going to be brought up as such come hell or high water to the best of my ability. and i am opposed to naming ceremonies etc and see them as a disgraceful display of ignorance or even some sort of socialistic trend. as even atheists have that type of rubbish.

Well it does not come across as such in the Bible because it goes with out saying doesn't it.

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You may be right, but the Bible only speaks of believers being baptised. And I could understand children being baptised at the same time as their parents, more than because they've been born.

I am a Christian and because of that my child is going to be brought up as such come hell or high water to the best of my ability. and i am opposed to naming ceremonies etc and see them as a disgraceful display of ignorance or even some sort of socialistic trend. as even atheists have that type of rubbish.

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I, too, am opposed to 'naming ceremonies'. They seem to have an occult significance, if only by falling back on the natural religiousness of fallen people who are separated from God.

My experience of Dedications (of babies) in the presence of the congregation and taking on the same committment as at a baptism - to bring up the child in the nurture and admonition of the Lord - is a positive one. It is not a naming ceremony, and undoubtedly, the congregation's promise to pray for the child, is a blessing both to the child, and to the parents.

xBluxTunicx82 said:

WHEN it is declared that the U. S.A. and Britain and other Nordic nations are Israelites and the chosen people of God, most of the modern lay churches call it false and without foundation, but refuse to give any Scriptures to prove that we are not. They put us on the defensive by demanding proof of our claims, and in response we give evidence from Scripture, history, ethnology and heraldry. As a reaction to the usual tactics of our opponents the order has been reversed and some questions presented for an answer:

Can those who disagree with us furnish evidence to prove that we are not Israel, and that the Jews are? No man's answer will suffice. The answer must come from
God's Word so that the issue may be clear.

The modern day church states that the Jew and Israel are one and the same; also that the U.S.A., Britain and other Nordic nations are Gentile (in the sense of heathen) nations. If their claim is true, and the Jews are Israel, THEY HAVE TO FULFIL EVERY SCRIPTURE WHICH GOD SAID ISRAEL WOULD FULFIL:

So in answer to my critics in relation to my latest books "Who Am I?" I present the following questions relative to the above mentioned subject. All these questions emerge from reading God's Word and history.

1) Have the Jews blessed all the nations of the earth? Gen. 12:3; 22: 18.

2) Are the Jews circumcised in heart? Deut. 10:16; 30:6; Romans 2:28 and 29; Phil. 3:3; Col. 2:9-11.

3) Have the Jews ever glorified Christ and has He been recognized by the Jewish nation? Isa. 41:16; Luke 1:32 and 7:16.

4) Do the Jews declare that Christ is the Lord God of Israel of the old Testament? Isa. 43: 10 & 12; 44:8; 49:3-6; 52:6; and Acts 1:8.

5) Do the Jews show forth the praise of Jesus? Isa. 43:21

6) Have the Jews carried the gospel to all the world and witnessed for Jesus Christ and held the Bibleopen? Gen. 28: 14; Isa 43: 10; 44:21; and look at Isa.49:3,6 and Acts 1:8 again

7) Do the Jews have God's Spirit and the Word of God in their mouth and their uttermost being? Isa.59:21.

8) Was the New Covenant written only to the Jews? The Bible states that it was made with the House of Israel and the House of Judah. Jer. 31: 31-33; Heb. 8:8-10; Matt. 26:28.

9) Are the Jews the sheep of Israel? Ezek. 34:11,12; Psalm 78:52; 95:1,6,7; Isa. 53:6; John 10:22-27; Matt. 15:24.

10) Are the Jews the Children of God scattered abroad? St. John 7:35; 10:16 and 11:52.

11) Is Jesus Christ glorified in the Jews? Isa. 49:3; Romans 8:29,30; 11:1,2 and 9:4.

12) Are the Jews the servants of God? Isa. 41:8; 43:8 and 49:3.

13) Are the Jews a holy nation, a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a peculiar people? Ex. 19:5,6; Deut. 14:2 and 7:6; 1 Peter 2:9,10; and 1:1,2.

14) Are the Jews the great characters mentioned in the great faith chapter of Hebrews 11? (Not one was a Jew.)

15) Are the Jews a "righteous nation?" Isaiah 26:2.

16) Are the Jews bringing forth the fruits of the kingdom? Hosea 14:8; Matt. 21:43.

17) Are the Jews kind to strangers? Lev. 19:33,34; Matt. 25:31-46.

18) Are the Jews called the "sons of the living God?" Hosea 1:10.

19) Do the Jews claim to be "not God's people? Hosea 1:10.

20) Do the Jews have all of God's Word? Deut. 33:4; Psalm 147:19&20; Romans 9:3-5.

21) Are the Jews a great and mighty nation? Genesis 18:18.

22) Are the Jews today innumerable as the stars of heaven and as the sand of the seashore? Gen. 22: 17; Hosea 1:10.

23) Do the Jews possess the gate of their enemies? Gen. 22:17; 24:60.

24) Are the Jews a nation and a company of Genesis 48 and 49,

25) Will the Jews push all the people together to the ends of the earth? Deut. 33:17.

26) Are the Jews above all the people on the face of the earth? Deut. 7:6; & 12:2; Psalm 135:4; Amos 3:2.

27) Have the Jews ever dwelt alone in a home appointed by God? Num. 23:9; 2 Sam. 7 :10; 1Chron. 17:9; Deut. 29:28; Jer: 16:13 & 3:18; Ezek. 36:24 and Acts 17:26.

28) Have the Jews a navy or naval power? Num. 24:7; Isa. 60:5,9,

29) Did or will the Jews eat up the nations, their enemies? Num. 24:8.

30) Are Jews God's battle axe? Num. 24:8,9; Isa. 41: 15,16; Jer. 51:20-23.

31) Are the Jews feared by all nations? Deut. 2:25; 28: 10.

32) Are the Jews a mighty nation, crushing and grinding to powder all who oppose them? Matt. 21:44 and Daniel 2:44.

33) Have the Jews inherited the gentiles? Isa. 54:3.

34) Is it possible to count 1/4 of the Jews, or all of them? Num. 23: 10.

35) Are the Jews the rod of God's inheritance? Ps. 135:4; Isa. 19:25.

36) Do the Jews today have an earthly king of the lineage of David ruling over them? If they are Israel then a Davidic king must be among them somewhere. Ps.89:27-29 & 35 to 37; Jer. 33: 17.

37) Are the Jews called today through Isaac? (Isaac's sons, or Saxons) Gen. 35:11; Amos 7:16; Romans 9:7 and Heb. 11:18.

38) Will the Jews say they have lost their lineage or identity? Hos. 1:9 & 10; 2:6; Isa. 1:3; 42:19; Deut. 32:26; Jer. 50:6,7; Hosea 8:8 and 9:17.

39) Do the Jews have a new name today? Isa. 62:2; 65:15; Hosea 1:10; Romans 9:25,26; 1 Pet.2:10; Acts 11:26.(New Language too -Isa. 28:11).

40) If the Jews are Israel how can the blessings promised to specific, and separate tribes in Genesis 48 and 49, and in Deut. 33 come about? Wouldn't they have to be separate nations? Note the time of fulfilment: Gen. 49:1. (Also 1 John 2:18; Acts 2:16,17; 1Peter 1:3, 5, 18 & 20; Jude 17-.19 and Hebrews 11:1 and 2)

41) Are the heathen nations aligned against the Jews only? Joel 3:9; and Psalms 83.

42) Are the Jews a hidden people? Psalm 83:4 and Isaiah 3:9

43) Are the Jews described nationally as a great lion? Gen. 49:9 and Numbers 23:24; 24:9.

44) Did the Jews deliver Jerusalem in 1917? See Luke 21:24; Hag. 2:18, 19 and 22; Lev. 26:18 to 28; Ezek 4:6; Rev.2:3 & 12:10-14.These refer to"times" predicted, and along with many more that are too long to be discussed in this addendum. However Daniel 12:11 & 12; Psalm 95:10; Heb. 3:9 & 10 and Matt. 24:34, are of interest of time element.

45) Are the Jews the house of Israel and the house of Judah-two nations and families? Ezek. & Jer. 3: 18; 31:31; 33:24.

46) Are the Jews called "Great?" Gen. 12:2.

47) Have the Jews released those in slavery? Isa. 42:7 & 58:6.

48) Have the Jews colonized any people? Isa. 35:1; 49:8; Gen. 28:14.

49) Are the Jews an Island people? Isa,. 24:14; 41:1; 43:4-10; 49:1,19; and Jer. 23:8; 31:10.

50) Do the Jews recognize Jesus as God? (God said Israel would: Isaiah 43:10,12; 52:6; Matthew 1:23; Luke1:68; 1 Timothy 3:16; Acts 3:14 and John 9:28

Of the fifty questions concerning the Jews - a people regarded by so many as "God's Chosen People." And with more than three times this many Bible references
to these questions I cannot find even one Scripture to substantiate the people's claim that: "the Jews are God's chosen people." Friend, can you???

So, in conclusion to the above subject I am going to offer a $1,000.00 reward to the first good man - ooops, I just remember that Jesus Christ told a young man once that "there was none good but God." (Matt. chapter nineteen.). So, I will try to make this "Reward" offer very plain:

"If any man or woman, boy or girl, of any race or religious or unreligious beliefs will dust off your old Bible, using the King James version that I have studied for many years, and show me from its pages, chapter and verse, where it states that the Jews are God's chosen people, then I will give the first one $1,000.00. (One Thousand Dollars) This offer will expire the first day of the year 2013, unless you ask me for more time to study."

Perhaps your pastor or some other preacher that teaches and preaches that the Jews are God's Chosen people could help you locate chapter and verse from your Bible.Ask your Sunday School teaches where to locate this in your Bible.

We have no more giants of culture such as Shakespeare, Beethoven and Goethe. We have no more literature, music or art of any significance since the Jewish blight descended upon our people. Music has become like the screech of automobile horns; literature has become a repetitious description of human debauchery, and art - the trivial daubs of monkeys or their human imitators.

These things I have written, and I believe in the same spirit of that of John the Apostle as he wrote in 1st John the second chapter. And I will close with a quotation from this Apostle as he wrote in the 5th chapter of 1 John, verse 19: "And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness."

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The biggest obstacle to your argument about the Arian groups being the "lost tribes" is that they have no middle eastern gene markers. If the Arian peoples had ever lived in the middle east then the remains of their Arian ancestors would occasionally turn up in middle eastern archaeology. This evidence has never surfaced and would seem to blow your argument clean out of the water!