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I am very sympathetic toward young Christians nowadays because they are surrounded by so many worldly pleasures and temptations.I would like to offer an encouragement to hang in there and stay focused on the Bible and ask God for help in resisting temptation.love,hitomi
 

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It really pains me to see so many lost people attending my school. You really wont see that kind of behavior 40-50 years back.
 

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It really pains me to see so many lost people attending my school. You really wont see that kind of behavior 40-50 years back.
I have four children and what kind of life now my 28 year old daughter has been through. She is now Christian but when she was teen aged she experienced so many evil things and I feel horrible because I was ignorant about it.
 

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WHIRLPOOL by MickMany people become unhappy let themselves get sucked into the whirling maelstrom of the crazy world.We can't blame them because the message we get rammed down our throats from childhood by parents, teachers and society is - "You've got to make something of yourself in this life, pass your exams, get a good job, buy a nice house, nice car, nice luxuries, raise a family etc etc"No wonder kids grow up full of anxiety and worries because of that pressure.But Jesus and Christianity say just the opposite and tell us NOT to dance to the worlds crazy tune, but to sit out the dance!Jesus said:- "The world wants you to dance to its tune" (Matthew 11:16-17)Jesus says not to care two hoots about the material world, but to just chill and live at a relaxed easy pace, loving the simple things in life."So don't worry, saying, 'what shall we eat?' or 'what shall we drink?' or what shall we wear?'...don't worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will take care of itself"(Matthew 6:31-34)It's a question of mindset, you can always spot a Christian because they've got a beautifully laid-back easy-going manner about them because they know this yukky world and its yukky ways count for zilch in Gods eyes..Jesus's cousin John rejected the world completely, choosing instead to live out in the wilderness dressed in rough camel skins,and eating wild food like honey and locusts, occasionally going in town to shout insults at the snooty priests and rulers.Yet Jesus said - "John is the greatest man ever to be born" (Matthew 11:11) not any famous kings or philosophers or prophets or anybody else.The moral for all of us is to break free from the crazy whirlpool of the world and do our own thing..
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"Set your mind on things above,not on things on the earth....... for we look at things unseen rather than the seen, for the seen are temporary,but the unseen are eternal" (Col 3:2/ 2 Cor 4:18 )
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Yes, MickIn hightech and materialistic world, the kids have to pressure themselvs and the society is pressuring them to achieve high woldly standard.I got free from all those crazy ideas by being christian. YHWH and Jesus are the only way to be free from all crazy stuff.I praise YHWH and Jesus for their standard.
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Yes, MickIn hightech and materialistic world, the kids have to pressure themselvs and the society is pressuring them to achieve high woldly standard.I got free from all those crazy ideas by being christian...
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A Major Requirement of Christianity is to reject the ways of the world, but sadly many can't or won't break their attachment to it..GO FOR LAUNCH by MickThe body is just a throwaway launch pad for the soul to take off from when the body dies, just like Jesus said:- "The spirit within gives life,the flesh alone is worthless" (John 6:63 )Our brains are the guidance computers that must lock us on to Jesus before launch, otherwise our souls will launch into the void without co-ordinates:-"Ungodly men for whom the blackness of darkness is reserved forever" (Jude 1:13)All our clocks are counting down to lift-off..Most space rockets lift off into orbit in a series of stages,jettisoning each stage as it runs out of fuel,leaving the small final stage to punch the payload into orbit.Finding God is done in much the same way.First we're earthbound on the launch pad,but the early scriptures give us the boost to begin spiritually lifting off against the pull of the world.Then the prophets kick in at stages during the ascent to help us continue accelerating upwards.Then the final stage - Jesus - gives us the final boost to free ourselves from the earths pull and punch into orbit,where we touch the face of God himself:-"..praise to the Lord, to him who rides the ancient skies above.." (Psalm 68:33-34)Sadly nonchristians never even get off the launch pad,and for them its a case of "Houston we have a problem.."
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I was brought up by my parents and society to be a wimp and always do what the world told me to do. I tried but i was very unhappy because the world was crazy and I wanted nothing to do with it.Then in my mid-teens i looked at the Bible and discovered that Jesus was on my side because he said the world was not as important as I'd been told, so I followed him ever since:-"Jesus saved you from the empty way of life handed you by your forefathers" (1 Peter 1:18 )So i changed from that shy,unconfident youngster I used to be, into one of the toughest people i know, and it feels good!
 

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Galatians 5:22 (King James Version) 22.But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,Longsuffering is about self-control and we see that we are able by the fruit of the Holy Spirit to have self-control. Proverbs teaches us that Proverbs 16:31-32 (King James Version) 31.The hoary head is a crown of glory, if it be found in the way of righteousness. 32.He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.Read James 1.We do have worldly pressure and Jesus said, "In the world ye shall have tribulation but be of good cheer for I have overcome the world."The Lord has already overcome the world and so we not fear the world or anything in it. We know in these last times would be great evil. Understanding the times helps as does standing and believing the teachings that Christ had given us.faithful.
 

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I graduated from a christian high school last spring, and am fortunate that most kids in my grade actually lived what they proffessed. But I know many kids in lower grades are not saved, and do not live like it. Tomorrow I am leaving for LeTourneau Univ., and it appears to a solid christian college. I consider myself blessed to be in the company of so many strong follwers. I still struggle with the pressures of the world, it is still not easy. But I have learned to share my struggles with a few who care.
 

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I love to dress up in nice clothes and pamper my self with luxury that I am blessed with
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Being spoiled dosen't mean I love God less :naughty:
 

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The Bible says that if we love the world, God is not in us.Jesus was humble and lived humbly. If we live like the world, we cannot help others as much as we want to. Jesus wants us to be helpers and givers all around us.love, hitomi
 

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Well as a matter of fact I do love this world. I do love humans and I do admire their intelligence otherwise we would still be in stone age. I don't believe that God wants us to limit ourselves that is why he has given us brains. I do admire, Graham Bell, I do admire Newton, I do admire Enstein and I do admire all inventitions. What I don't admire is sin. I do enjoy what God has given me and I do share it with others. If I was greedy or jealous then it would be a sin. I don't believe that we need to deprive ourselves completly to prove worthy. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son that who ever beileves in him could be saved. Even God loves the world !
 

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Matthew 19:16-30 (King James Version) 16.And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17.And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18.He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19.Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20.The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21.Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22.But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. 23.Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24.And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 25.When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? 26.But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. 27.Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? 28.And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29.And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. 30.But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.Christ said, What good does it do a man if he gaineth the whole world, yet looseth his soul.
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''go and sell that thou hast''So do all christians need to sell their house? Hmm... Dose being humble means being a looser? I mean in todays world even education is not free to most. Where do we draw the line then?
 

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The further we go back in history, the lesser were the people spiritually-evolved (generally speaking).For example a lovely Christian woman on another board told how her parents threw her out of the house when she fell pregnant out of wedlock as a young girl, and that was only 35 years ago.Nowadays people are hopefully more enlightened and forgiving in all ways."Jesus saved you from the empty way of life handed you by your forefathers" (1 Peter 1:18 )So its up to the young to show the stuffy oldies how to do it where necessary, as this commission instructs -"Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity" (1 Timothy 4:12)
 

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There are things in the Bible that I have a serious problem with following. One is "Turn the other cheek." If someone hits me, he'd better knock me out or hit me hard enough to stun me so that my reflexes won't take over and automatically hit him back. When I'm attacked my automatic reflex is to defend myself. There is no thought process involved. I don't think, "Someone just me; I'd better hit him back." So turning the other cheek doesn't work for me. Besides, in my opinion it makes me appear weak and afraid to defend myself.
 

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There are things in the Bible that I have a serious problem with following. One is "Turn the other cheek."
Yes but have you thought maybe the fault is yours for making anyone want to hit you in the first place..
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Nobody has ever hit me in my life because I'm such an easy-going friendly guy to everybody no matter who they are.For example a chap was heckling some street preachers once, calling them every name under the sun and I noticed he had a London accent so I got talking to him and he said he was from the West Ham area. Soon we were the best of pals, talking about the old glory days of West Ham Football Club and he was full of apologies for his heckling..Open genuine friendliness works wonders with everybody,and reminds me of this story I saw on the net -STEPHEN AND THE HITMEN There's a true episode in the life of Stephen of Perm, one of the early Russian missionaries that shows how everybody likes a true, proper Christian:- He discovered in the region of Perm pagans with a different language and therefore out of reach of the Gospel. He learned their language and went out to preach in their midst. The local shamans wanted to destroy him and they sent a group of armed men to kill him. They came back and the shamans said, "Is he dead?" "No", they said, "we couldn't kill him, when we met him face to face, there was such love and openness in him that we knelt down and begged for his blessing."We don't know how he treated them when they turned up to kill him. Maybe he knew they'd come to get him, maybe not, but it made no difference to him.He probably said something like "Hello my friends, have you come far? I was just about to sit down for a meal, come in and join me. Tell me about yourselves, you lived in this area long? Got any family? Tell them they're welcome to visit me anytime, i'm going to build a small meeting hall for the community, everybody'll be welcome. You look like hunters, we'd love you to show us how to catch some fish and game, you can take groups of kids out to teach them woodcraft if you like..Want another cup of tea?Oh you're not leaving already are you? Just a sec, let me pack a few sandwiches and a little wine for you in case you get peckish on the way back. Come again soon, i've enjoyed your company.."---------------------------------------------------------
 

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Wow, this thread is becoming a good one. thank you everyone for your frank opinions.Amy, What Jesus means is that we should love people but we should not love what is going on in the world becaseu satan is in charge of this world. God gave satan permission to do it. love,hitomi
 

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There are things in the Bible that I have a serious problem with following. One is "Turn the other cheek." If someone hits me, he'd better knock me out or hit me hard enough to stun me so that my reflexes won't take over and automatically hit him back. When I'm attacked my automatic reflex is to defend myself. There is no thought process involved. I don't think, "Someone just me; I'd better hit him back." So turning the other cheek doesn't work for me. Besides, in my opinion it makes me appear weak and afraid to defend myself.
Hi Jon,
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Jesus' teaching is easy to understand but hard to follow. That's why He says it is impossible with men but is possible with God. Jesus also says that narrow is the gate to lead to salvation.love, hitomi
 

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''go and sell that thou hast''So do all christians need to sell their house?
No we don't have to sell our house. I believe this teaching is telling us to live with what we need and not with what we want.love,hitomi:)