Did the Son of God Die?

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The Lord's death is a bit of a paradox because he had access to eternal life;
which is a kind of life that's impervious to death.

†. John 5:26 . . As the Father has life in himself; so has He given to the Son
to have life in himself

Not only did the Lord have access to eternal life; but he's also its authorized
distributor.

†. John 17:2 . .You have given him power over all flesh, that he should give
eternal life to as many as you have given him

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As we pertain to Jesus who lived a life of being a man, yes He died to redeem us with all our sins but the son of God is just one among the three persona of our faith. We also have the Father and the Holy Spirit. All referred to as God but in three persona.
 

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As we pertain to Jesus who lived a life of being a man, yes He died to redeem us with all our sins but the son of God is just one among the three persona of our faith. We also have the Father and the Holy Spirit. All referred to as God but in three persona.

I love the way people state three persons as if it were some great Biblical truth. Show me where in the Bible we see a DIRECT reference to three people in the Godhead?

I don't know any Bible which states such a ludicrous idea. I do know that it declares ONE God, and it declares the HOLY ONE of Israel, and it declares that the fulness of the godhead (deity) is in Jesus, not vice versa.

Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

To Jesus belongs the glory, both now and ever, amen.
 

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You cannot separate the divine and human nature of Jesus! It is foundational to Christianity. It is shocking to me that people can get on this board and trumpet their Biblical knowledge all over the place and then turn around and deny the doctrine of the Trinity and the Incarnation of Christ. Where are your priorities?

Very true.

It is correct to say that God died on the cross.
 

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it was the son of man who died, not the son of God. it was the separation of the spirit from flesh.

as for the trinity in creation, Genesis is totally misunderstood. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. but consider this.

"The three dispensation, or administrations of God"

Foundation Scripture: Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD"

Teaching Scripture: 1 Corinthians 12:4 "Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all". keep this foundation scripture in mind, as you read thanks. especially verse 5.

I believe in only one Spirit/God, so lets start at the beginning. re-looking at Genesis 1:26 again. "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth". From this verse, it seems like it is saying that there are two or more person of God, instead of one. Well lets look closer with the wisdom of God. first I need you to go with me to Genesis the 5th chapter and verses 1 & 2. This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him. 2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. Did you see it, listen again, In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him, see it, if not, the net bible, 5:1 This is the record of the family line of Adam. When God created humankind, he made them in the likeness of God.: 2 He created them male and female; when they were created, he blessed them and named them humankind".
If you would notice, in verses 1 and 2 of chapter 5, it said he, (GOD), created man, and he, (GOD), created them male and female. He is singular, not plural. So seeing this lets go back to Genesis 1:26, and get the wise understanding from God. look at this verse real good, re-read it several times if need be. I did, and I saw something I never saw before. "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth". See it, if not, here it is. Question, who is to have dominion over the earth, just ONLY the first man and first woman, NO. this was a generational thing until the end, not just for the first man and woman only, but for every generation of mankind to follow. We see that in 5:1 this is the generations, notice the, s, on generations at the end of the word. Meaning more that just the first two man and woman, but generations to follow. now how do that tie into the dispensation of God, a dispensation is a time period, or period of times, (Generations), that God deals with a group of peoples. This is called administrations of God. again, 1Cor 12:5 "And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord". so in the first dispensation of time the Spirit, (without a natural body as Christ), as Creator and maker. made a man in his image that was to come, because his body, it was foreordained before the world was made. and in the second dispensation of time came that body/the flesh of God, John 1:1. and in the last dispensation of time, that natural body/flesh that the spirit died from is now resurrect into the glorious body that he have now.

so we can clearly see that there is no conflict, between Genesis 1:26 & 27, (the us, and we), and Genesis 5:1 & 2, (HE). in Genesis 1:26 & 27 God is reveling his first differences of administrations. The first administrations/or dispensation as Creator and maker, (Spirit). God is a Spirit, but man had a natural body. so the scripture is true, 1 Corinthians 15:46 "Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual". for the natural body was first, then the spiritual body. which the Lord's body as the man Jesus was first natural, and then quicken unto to a spiritual body. which is the second administrations, or dispensation as Saviour & Redeemer, Isa 9:6 "Flesh/Child is born, (spirit/Son) is GIVEN, Supporting Scripture John 17:21 "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me". what was sent?, flesh, the natural body of God, in the person of the man Jesus the Christ. and the third administrations/or dispensation is comforter, (Holy Spirit)/sustainer. which is the resurrected, changed body of Jesus the Christ. There you have it, one God/Spirit, in three differences of administrations, who worketh all in all. A re-read of 1 Corinthians 12:4, 5, & 6. will open up the Godhead for us.
So as for as the trinity goes. Not three in one, but only one in three dispensation, or administrations, or period of time. He's Omniscient, he's planed this. Isaiah, said he's the Mighty, God, (Spirit, Creator, Maker), and the almighty, (Father, in the Spiritual realm, Son, in the Earthly, or created realm). yes in the earthly realm because the first Adam lost all rights and power of this created world. now Jesus/Spirit/God in Glorified flesh, is and always Omnipotent, even in that dispensational body), there is only ONE Spirit. he's the Father, and the Son when he was in the fleshly body on earth. Title Son of God, (spirit in Flesh, unglorified). title Father, (the same Spirit, without body/flesh). as in when Jesus was baptized. most say here is the trinity. voice from heaven, as a dove coming down, and the body of Jesus standing in the Jordan. is he not Omnipresent?. supportive scripture, Jer. 23:23 & 24 "Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off? 24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD. is not God/Spirit is in you, and at the same time in me, and in someone else in Dallas, New York, Atlanta?. how can one limited an all mighty God, to just one point in time, and space. was not Jesus the same eternal Spirit in the old testament without body, (flesh, bone, and blood)?. lets see this, supported by the Scripture, 1Pet 1:19 "But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you". Now, if Christ was manifested, at this time, then he was before his fleshly body. without blood, without bone, and without flesh. supporting scripture, 1Pet 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow". there he is, the Spirit, that's right the Spirit of Christ that was in them. them who?, the old testament prophets. and that same Spirit in the natural man called Jesus. see verse 10 of 1 Peter chapter 1. before he took on the flesh, the Blood, and the Bone, he is Spirit. now we can see it perfectly.
Heb 1:1 "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, (the word), whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds. This time/dispensation when He spoke to the fathers is distinguished from the time/dispensation in which He has spoken to us, by his son/the word, that manifested him, (the eternal Spirit). The time/dispensation in which He spake by the prophets, stands in contrast with the time in which He spake by His Son. And the time past is a dispensation, that is obviously distinguished from these last days, which we're in now.

Now lets bring out the total meaning. Operations" in verse 6, Workings.
G1755 energema (en-erg'-ay-mah) n.
1. an effect
[from G1754]
KJV: operation, working
Root(s): G1754
* For OPERATION See WORKING

Working (Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words )
[ 1,,G1753, energeia ]
(Eng., energy") is used (1) of the "power" of God, (a) in the resurrection of Christ, Eph 1:19; Col 2:12, RV, "working" (AV, "operation"); in the call and enduement of Paul, Eph 3:7; Col 1:29; © in His retributive dealings in sending "a working of error" (AV, "strong delusion") upon those under the rule of the Man of Sin who receive not the love of the truth, but have pleasure in unrighteousness, 2Thess 2:11; (2) of the "power" of Christ (a) generally, Phil 3:21; in the church, individually, Eph 4:16; (3) of the power of Satan in energizing the Man of Sin in his "parousia," 2Thess 2:9, "coming."

"what is wrought," the effect produced by No. 1, occurs in 1Cor 12:6, RV, "working" (AV, "operations"); 1Cor 12:10.

(The ISBE)
op-er-a'-shun (ma`ashe, "work"; energeia, energema, "energy"): Twice used in the Old Testament of God's creative work (Ps 28:4; Ps 28:5; Isa 5:12). The Holy Spirit's inworking and power are manifest in the bestowal of spiritual gifts on individuals and on the church (1Co 12:6 the King James Version), and in the resurrection of Jesus Christ, through which energy or operation of God those dead in sins are, through faith, raised to newness of life (Col 2:12 the King James Version).

In the dispensations of God, by the office of the Holy Spirit, we are in the Last dispensation of the Gospel to preach it by the Holy Spirit. Listen, Col 1:25 "Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; (to what, fulfil, or to complete what?. The age). 26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: 28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: 29 Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily".

here plainly the apostle Paul tell us of the third differences of administrations, or the third dispensation of God, or to God's third/last Work to finish. Which is the Gospel to the world. and we're his helpers. how is this done?, through the office of the Holy Ghost, or his third dispensation. that is, he, (God/Holy Spirit), who John saw on the island on Patmos, not in heaven but on earth, Rev 1:12-16. it it he, who is creator and maker in Genesis 1:26 &27, have reveled his name, "Jesus", he is in that office today. He who came to his own, and his own knew him not. But who we know now, Jesus, his work, to administer/dispense, is through his body the church. his word in these last days was a mystery, but is now reveled by his apostles, whom he empower with his Spirit.

the three offices of God is at hand. Creator/Maker, of everything, Saviour/redeemer, of all mankind, now, King/High Priest, who is also mediator, (God in glorified flesh, yes King, to return), Psalms 132:11 "The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne". this scripture clearly states the God as a man will sit on the throne of David. as he was prince on earth, prince of peace, by his blood), and, now Returning King to all who believe, this is the same Spirit/God, identified as, "us", and the, "we", in Genesis 1:26 & 27. the same God/Spirit who created us, is the same God/Spirit who redeemed us, and it's the same God/Spirit who saves us. and now we're in the last dispensation of his Grace. this have been a mystery from the beginning of time. supported scripture, 1Tim 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory". but is displayed by his Holy Apostles. Here is that mystery explained. When God/Jesus/Spirit sent that flesh, (son of God), into the world, that's what saved us, to be the sacrifice/ransom to redeem us. this man/flesh, bones, and blood, is better known as God right hand. The manifestation of his power. supportive scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me". that's why Jesus the flesh and blood/Man is called the Arm of God. and by his Arm, his arm of flesh came salvation. Eph 3:1 "For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: 3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: 7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power". Amen.

JESUS is GOD, All by Himself.

now to tie up some loose ends,
1John 5:6 "This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one".
here in these verses most Christians think that this verse support the trinity. I don't believe so. the scriptures states, "these three", not "they three", but these. "these" are titles, #1 in heaven, Father is a title, not a person, word is a title, not a person, Holy Spirit is a title, Listen, Holy describe what kind of Spirit. Holy describe the Spirit characteristics or character. "these", are not personalities, but, "these", are one witness. note humans are made up of water, blood, and spirit. "these" are one, a spirit in flesh, with blood, meaning A MAN, the image of God. for we are made in his image. and two, that image is manifested clearly in heaven, as the Father, (Spirit), the Word, (flesh), and no Blood, for it was the ransom. meaning a GLORIFIED MAN IN HEAVEN. the same, (Spirit in Genesis without glorified flesh). is the same Spirit in John 1:1 in unglorified flesh. and now that same Spirit as we have said, now Glorified.

Love and peace
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To answer the OP completely and thoroughly, and happily :)

Yes.
(what isn't there to understand?)

(Joh 3:16)

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

(Joh 19:7)

The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.

(Mat 12:40)

For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.


(Mat 17:9)

And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.

(Mat 27:43)

He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.

(Mar 15:39)

And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.

(Luk 22:70)

And they all said, `Thou, then, art the Son of God?' and he said unto them, `Ye say it , because I am;'

(Joh 20:31)

and these have been written that ye may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing ye may have life in his name.'

 
 

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it's the son of man who died, not the son of God, for the flesh profit nothing

Matthew 12:40 "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Matthew 20:18 "Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death,

Matthew 20:28 "Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Matthew 26:2 "Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.



who rose from the dead?, son of God or Son of Man



Mark 8:31 "And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Matthew 17:9 "And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.

Mark 9:31 "For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.



Who is retuning?, Son of man



Matthew 16:28 "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Luke 12:40 "Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

Luke 21:27 "And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.





who was in heaven before he was manifested in flesh to become the son of God on earth?. the son of man.



John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

John 6:62 "What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?


Love and Peace
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(Rom 1:3)

Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

(Rom 1:4)

And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
 

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2 whitestone,

you stated, Romans 1:3 "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh".
I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but consider this.

look at this verse real close, who is "of" the seed of David, here Mary or JESUS Christ. answer Mary was "OF" the seed of David Biologically . and Jesus was Made or Born of Mary who is the seed "of" David. look at it again. Just as in,

2 Timothy 2:8 "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel".

"OF" the seed of David. of WHO?, Mary, which is the seed of David. Jesus had no Biological Father of the Flesh. and Mary was only the surrogate Mother, and not the Biological Mother of Jesus. that Flesh that was conceive "IN" Mary, not "OF" Mary was from GOD the eternal Spirit.
 

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2 whitestone,

you stated, Romans 1:3 "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh".
I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but consider this.

look at this verse real close, who is "of" the seed of David, here Mary or JESUS Christ. answer Mary was "OF" the seed of David Biologically . and Jesus was Made or Born of Mary who is the seed "of" David. look at it again. Just as in,

2 Timothy 2:8 "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel".

"OF" the seed of David. of WHO?, Mary, which is the seed of David. Jesus had no Biological Father of the Flesh. and Mary was only the surrogate Mother, and not the Biological Mother of Jesus. that Flesh that was conceive "IN" Mary, not "OF" Mary was from GOD the eternal Spirit.

Yes, of course 101G, that is what it all obviously says.

It should also be obvious by now that "two becoming one" is complete in Jesus the Christ, Son of Man, Son of God.

Anything applicable to Jesus "the Son of Man" or Christ "the Son of God" is altogether one and the same.

The Son of Man died.
The Son of God died.
The Son of Man is arisen.
The Son of God is arisen.

It is all true and is the center of my Worship :)

Peace
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2 whitestone, greeting

It should also be obvious by now that "two becoming one" is complete in Jesus the Christ, Son of Man, Son of God.

Anything applicable to Jesus "the Son of Man" or Christ "the Son of God" is altogether one and the same.

The Son of Man died.

The Son of God died.

The Son of Man is arisen.

The Son of God is arisen.



I agree with you to a point, and up until, "The Son of God is arisen". again I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but consider this.

the body that was sown is not the body that rose. supporting scripture, 1 Corinthians 15:35 "But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? 37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body".

here in these scriptures we can clearly see that #1. the dead is different from the body they come in. #2. the body that was sown/born is not the body that shall be, it is changed or quicken. so the natural life that was the Son of God is no more, not the natural life. because it was given as a ransom. and that what rose was the body that shall be. meaning life by the spirit instead of blood. supporting scripture, Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have". if one notice, there is no blood, which is the source of natural life. scripture, Leviticus 17:11 "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul". so after the resurrection he's not with natural life of the Flesh, (Son of God). Leviticus 17:11a "For the life of the flesh is in the blood". (NATURAL LIFE/Son of God). for the natural life is in the blood.



John 11:27 "She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world".

1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory".



be blessed

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2 whitestone, greeting

It should also be obvious by now that "two becoming one" is complete in Jesus the Christ, Son of Man, Son of God.

Anything applicable to Jesus "the Son of Man" or Christ "the Son of God" is altogether one and the same.

The Son of Man died.

The Son of God died.

The Son of Man is arisen.

The Son of God is arisen.



I agree with you to a point, and up until, "The Son of God is arisen". again I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but consider this.

the body that was sown is not the body that rose. supporting scripture, 1 Corinthians 15:35 "But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? 37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body".

here in these scriptures we can clearly see that #1. the dead is different from the body they come in. #2. the body that was sown/born is not the body that shall be, it is changed or quicken. so the natural life that was the Son of God is no more, not the natural life. because it was given as a ransom. and that what rose was the body that shall be. meaning life by the spirit instead of blood. supporting scripture, Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have". if one notice, there is no blood, which is the source of natural life. scripture, Leviticus 17:11 "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul". so after the resurrection he's not with natural life of the Flesh, (Son of God). Leviticus 17:11a "For the life of the flesh is in the blood". (NATURAL LIFE/Son of God). for the natural life is in the blood.



John 11:27 "She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world".

1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory".



be blessed

101

First and foremost, Jesus is the Son of God by being the Firstborn from the dead.

(Rom 1:4)

And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

No one has "Son of God" status unless they are "raised from the dead".

I have been raised from the dead in Christ. Now I am a Son of God (1Jo3;2)

I'm not concerned with the little 'what kind of a body?!' conversations that generate mystery and excitement with the kids.

I instead, rejoice in being Born from Above from His incorruptible Seed and Resting in being made Sanctified and an Everlasting Holy Habitation of His Resurrected Self. Birthing me forth from the dead with Him even Now, Fathering me His Son. If this verse is understood, then all else is understood. Nothing is a mystery to a Son of God.

Peace
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2 whitestone, greeting in the name of the Lord Jesus.
I have been raised from the dead in Christ. Now I am a Son of God (1Jo3;2)

I'm not concerned with the little 'what kind of a body?!' conversations that generate mystery and excitement with the kids.

LOL, that's funny, "and excitement with the kids.".

That's most of us, (Christians), problem, we're so heavenly minded, that we're earthly useless. for our Lord's Body is here on earth, not in heaven, yes we're redeemed but our work is here on earth. his body the church.

now the topic was, "Did the Son of God Die?". and that's what I answered to. and again since this is for kids, as you say, this is what the Lord said, Matthew 18:3 "And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven". amen.

be blessed,

Love and Peace
101G