False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
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The "real" Holy Spirit was only ever infused into Christ's True Apostolic Church [ Catholic ] at Pentecost 1st century.
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“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Oh. Do you have the Acts 2:4 experience? See also Acts 10:44-48, and Acts 19:6. Here is what Christian disciples do that are set in a NT assembly by the Holy Spirit. Mark 16:17-18 Do you do those things? Does anyone in the church do them? If not why not? They also do Matthew 10:7-8. Do you? does anyone in the church you attend do them? If not why not? Does this church believe and teach this:John 14:6
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[sup]6 [/sup]Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
1 Timothy 2:5
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[sup]5 [/sup]For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,
Is salvation by grace through faith apart from works as this says:
Ephesians 2:8-9
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[sup]8 [/sup]For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, [sup]9 [/sup]not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Romans 11:6
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[sup]6 [/sup]And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace.[sup][a][/sup] But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.
Romans 4:2-4
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[sup]2 [/sup]For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. [sup]3 [/sup]For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”[sup][a][/sup] [sup]4 [/sup]Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.
Romans 4:16
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[sup]16 [/sup]Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all
If the church you refer to does not have the way of Christian salvation right then it is not the true church.
My answers follow your questions above in your post #5
Your Martin Luther , wanting to avoid the responsibility of doing good works, promoted the idea of 'faith alone' as a means of salvation.
Jesus left us only with His Church which was and still is 'Apostolic' only the Catholic Church for the past two-thousand years has been "Apostolic ".
I don't like to get into debates about Church denominations, but this one needs to be put to rest. The Roman Catholic system DID NOT EXIST officially until the 3rd century A.D. Although Ignatius used the term 'catholic' in one of his 1st century letters, it wasn't until the 3rd century A.D. when the Catholic Church came into existence.
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
the Eucharist defines catholicism, not constantine. Belief in the real presence was there from the beginning.
A Christian is justified by grace through faith and is a new creation in Christ when he calls on the name of the Lord. The "good works" are a result of salvation not to earn or keep it. A christian can do nothing to earn anything from God or do anything to receive grace or prepare for grace. Grace in the Bible is always set in opposition to debt Romans 4:4 and 16, to works Romans 11:16, and to law John 1:17. See also Galatians 5:14 and Romans 6:14-15. Grace is grace and it CANNOT be earned by anything we do.We are saved by grace through faith and if it is saving faith it does works i.e obeys God by being baptized in Jesus name by immersion at the age of being able to understand what they believe, asks for and receives the Acts 2:4 experience, lives Matthew 5, 6, and 7, and does what Mark 16:17-18 and Matthew 10:7-8 says.
The RCC does not believe or do ANY of these things as works that indicate grace has produced saving faith.
The apostles believed, taught and did all these things so the RCC can not be "apostolic".
Ephesians 2:8-10
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[sup]8[/sup]For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, [sup]9 [/sup]not of works, lest anyone should boast. [sup]10 [/sup]For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
Note verse 8 is how we are saved and the good works of faith are a result of that salvation, not to earn it.
Scripture for the "real presence" please and that priests have any special power to do this.
These are Charismatic churches not Pentecostal churches. Pentecostalism has distinct doctrinal differences from the Charismatic movement.
Those are some demonic manifestations (familiar spirits) try to come under the hood of the Holy Spirit. Grace and dignity is a dire need for the Charismatic movement.
Hyper-emotionalism. There needs to be a balance of both Spirit and the word of Truth. God we need a cleaning out of the house and a return to true prayer and repentance. The Apostolic Age was an age of persecution and prayer. And power followed and accompanied them. They did not prophesy or preach 'new anointings' they preached Jesus Christ saves and then the Holy Ghost empowered them to effectively witness and perform works and miracles. The birthing of the Pentecostal movement came with prayer, fasting, and the preaching of the gospel.
Thanks for posting these videos. I'm going to try to buy that book and teach it at my church.
Being a Pentecostal minister I believe that I can speak for the denomination or at least the United Holy Church of America Inc. we try to watch and test familiar spirits and "new" manifestations by the word of God and by the conviction of the Holy Spirit (1 John 4:1). Pentecostals are not to be expressive in worship but we are not hyper-emotionalistic. Now I do not doubt the faith of many of those Charismatic Christians but I doubt the manifestations and hyper-emotionalistc expressions. Here is another video of an outrageous church claiming these "new" manifestations are from God and they claim the term "Pentecostal" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=215C-tadRmk
Those are some demonic manifestations (familiar spirits) try to come under the hood of the Holy Spirit. Grace and dignity is a dire need for the Charismatic movement.
Hyper-emotionalism. There needs to be a balance of both Spirit and the word of Truth. God we need a cleaning out of the house and a return to true prayer and repentance. The Apostolic Age was an age of persecution and prayer. And power followed and accompanied them. They did not prophesy or preach 'new anointings' they preached Jesus Christ saves and then the Holy Ghost empowered them to effectively witness and perform works and miracles. The birthing of the Pentecostal movement came with prayer, fasting, and the preaching of the gospel.
Thanks for posting these videos. I'm going to try to buy that book and teach it at my church.
Being a Pentecostal minister I believe that I can speak for the denomination or at least the United Holy Church of America Inc. we try to watch and test familiar spirits and "new" manifestations by the word of God and by the conviction of the Holy Spirit (1 John 4:1). Pentecostals are not to be expressive in worship but we are not hyper-emotionalistic. Now I do not doubt the faith of many of those Charismatic Christians but I doubt the manifestations and hyper-emotionalistc expressions. Here is another video of an outrageous church claiming these "new" manifestations are from God and they claim the term "Pentecostal" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=215C-tadRmk
All man-made churches of any kind are heretical, erroneous and not from Jesus , being that they are invented by mere men these 16th century onward churches along with their offspring cults carry with them a different conflicting ''gospel" from each other including of course Christ's One True Church ,none of these interloping man-made churches could ever be even remotely connected with Christ's Apostolic Church [ Eph.2: 19-20; Luke 10:16 ]
Everyone of your man-made churches greatly limits or disbelieves in sacramentalism, which is simply the extension of the incarnational principle and the belief that matter can convey grace. Some Protestant sects [ e.g. Baptists, many pentecostals] reject all sacraments.
Furthemore, many Protestant groups tend to separate life into categories of "spiritual" and " carnal', as if God is not Lord of all life. It forgets that all non-sinful endeavors are ultimately spiritual.
These new 16th century churches have removed the Eucharist from the center and focus of Christian worship services. Some Protestants observe it only monthly, or even quartely. This is against the Tradition of the early Church. Protestants regard the Eucharist symbolically , which is contrary to universal Christian Tradition up to the early sixteenth century. It is also against the Holy Bible [ Matt. 26:26-28;John 6:47-63; 1 Cor. 10:14-22; 11: 23-30 ], which hold to the "Real Presence" [ another instance of the antipathy to matter ].
Everyone of your man-made churches greatly limits or disbelieves in sacramentalism, which is simply the extension of the incarnational principle and the belief that matter can convey grace. Some Protestant sects [ e.g. Baptists, many pentecostals] reject all sacraments.
Furthemore, many Protestant groups tend to separate life into categories of "spiritual" and " carnal', as if God is not Lord of all life. It forgets that all non-sinful endeavors are ultimately spiritual.
These new 16th century churches have removed the Eucharist from the center and focus of Christian worship services. Some Protestants observe it only monthly, or even quartely. This is against the Tradition of the early Church. Protestants regard the Eucharist symbolically , which is contrary to universal Christian Tradition up to the early sixteenth century. It is also against the Holy Bible [ Matt. 26:26-28;John 6:47-63; 1 Cor. 10:14-22; 11: 23-30 ], which hold to the "Real Presence" [ another instance of the antipathy to matter ].
First thanks for this video. To give more insight into this phenom. We see in the video a comparing of the Christians, with the Hindu religions. Hold on to your hats--- Maitreya who has been predicted to come by Buddha is here. This is also a thing that is Hindu and those types of religions. Maitreya is the anti-Christ. On you tube if you watch ----Maitreya and the masters miracles--- you will see his work to unite both Christians and world religions together by his miracles already being done.
You don't want to miss this video, it is very hot. There are those Christians who believe they are called over comers, they believe they will be raptured before anti-Christ comes fully on the scene.. If they are over comers they must be ready soon. There is info. that the Benny Hinn ministry announced that Jesus would literally appear on the stage with him. He applies the kundalini spirit on people. I think it's Maitreya he is talking about. He by the way could fit the description of a false prophet. He says he got his anointing at the grave of a dead preacher woman Kathyrin Cullman sorry can't remember how to spell it. That is the operation of a familiar spirit.
He threatened one time if any spoke against him a curse would come on their children. Well that would be like Balaam cursing Israel, for it is written no curse or lying divination can bring harm to God's people. Balaam came to know it's a waste of time because he said I can only bless Israel.
Christians must know the difference between true and false signs and wonders. crosses of light have nothing to do with crosses of wood. the cross in the bible was a curse. It was a instrument of death. It is Jesus alone taking our punishment --the cross. in our place.
There is nothing good about the cross. Unless you like punishment to. To carry our cross is a suffering. it is where self must be put to death. Then Jesus can live in us. Gal.2:20.
love and unity is where all religions unite with the anti -Christ and become followers of him. Proof of this is many Christians they say they are, believe Catholics and Mormons, church of Christ, and other cults are our brothers. They say we should love and embrace them. That is the plan of one world religion.
By the way , Oral Roberts and Ken Copeland , got the Kundalini anointing..
You don't want to miss this video, it is very hot. There are those Christians who believe they are called over comers, they believe they will be raptured before anti-Christ comes fully on the scene.. If they are over comers they must be ready soon. There is info. that the Benny Hinn ministry announced that Jesus would literally appear on the stage with him. He applies the kundalini spirit on people. I think it's Maitreya he is talking about. He by the way could fit the description of a false prophet. He says he got his anointing at the grave of a dead preacher woman Kathyrin Cullman sorry can't remember how to spell it. That is the operation of a familiar spirit.
He threatened one time if any spoke against him a curse would come on their children. Well that would be like Balaam cursing Israel, for it is written no curse or lying divination can bring harm to God's people. Balaam came to know it's a waste of time because he said I can only bless Israel.
Christians must know the difference between true and false signs and wonders. crosses of light have nothing to do with crosses of wood. the cross in the bible was a curse. It was a instrument of death. It is Jesus alone taking our punishment --the cross. in our place.
There is nothing good about the cross. Unless you like punishment to. To carry our cross is a suffering. it is where self must be put to death. Then Jesus can live in us. Gal.2:20.
love and unity is where all religions unite with the anti -Christ and become followers of him. Proof of this is many Christians they say they are, believe Catholics and Mormons, church of Christ, and other cults are our brothers. They say we should love and embrace them. That is the plan of one world religion.
By the way , Oral Roberts and Ken Copeland , got the Kundalini anointing..
The only church back then was apostolic, formed by Jesus , the only church that ever was apostolic at that early time and still today is Christ's Catholic Church. Not Baptist, not Methodists, Not Evangelical non-denominational, not Anglican ,not Mormon etc., no rapture churches, no billy-bob church , nope, just Christ's One Apostolic Church and that is only then as today -The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.The only Church that is not a "denominational or non-denominationa'l church is Christ's Catholic Church. because it never split from another church and that is because it is Christ made, not man-made as your particular Protestant sect, all non-Catholic so called Christian churches were formed heretically by being originally split from Christ's Catholic Church and that started a coninue splitting from another Protestant man-made church etc.
The Catholic Church never split from any other church because it is the Bride of Christ, Jesus never divorced His Catholic/Apostolic Church and never will, all of its apostolicdoctrinal teachings have been protected by Jesus. Not one Catholic Doctrine has ever been left out or changed since Pentecost 1st century. Try and name one doctrine that has been rejected or changed in the past two-thousand years.
Y'all still doing this:
Mark 16:17-18
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[sup]17 [/sup]And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; [sup]18 [/sup]they[sup][a][/sup] will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
How about this:
Matthew 10:7-8
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[sup]7 [/sup]And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ [sup]8 [/sup]Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead,[sup][a][/sup] cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.
And this:
John 14:12
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[sup]12 [/sup]“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
And:
James 5:14-15
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[sup]14 [/sup]Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. [sup]15 [/sup]And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.
Greek word is sozo meaning heal.
You do have this one but it has been perverted to mean "last rites" or extreme unction when they are sure the person will die. They usually do.
This one?
Matthew 23:9
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[sup]9 [/sup]Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
How about Mary remaining a virgin?
Matthew 13:53-56
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[sup]53 [/sup]Now it came to pass, when Jesus had finished these parables, that He departed from there. [sup]54 [/sup]When He had come to His own country, He taught them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished and said, “Where did this Man get this wisdom and these mighty works? [sup]55 [/sup]Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses,[sup][a][/sup] Simon, and Judas? [sup]56 [/sup]And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this Man get all these things?”
How about Peter as the first pope?
Galatians 2:11-13
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[sup]11 [/sup]Now when Peter[sup][a][/sup] had come to Antioch, I withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed; [sup]12 [/sup]for before certain men came from James, he would eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing those who were of the circumcision. [sup]13 [/sup]And the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy.
1 Corinthians 9:5
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[sup]5 [/sup]Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
How about all the additional unscriptural RCC works/requirements for salvation when the Bible says this:
Ephesians 2:8-10
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[sup]8 [/sup]For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, [sup]9 [/sup]not of works, lest anyone should boast. [sup]10 [/sup]For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
Notice the good works come after or as a result of salvation not to earn it.
Here it is put another way:
Romans 10:9-10 (New King James Version)
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[sup]9 [/sup]that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. [sup]10 [/sup]For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
1 Timothy 2:5
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[sup]5 [/sup]For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,
This eliminates the priesthood and Mary.
Deuteronomy 4:15-17
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Beware of Idolatry
[sup]15 [/sup]“Take careful heed to yourselves, for you saw no form when the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, [sup]16 [/sup]lest you act corruptly and make for yourselves a carved image in the form of any figure: the likeness of male or female, [sup]17 [/sup]the likeness of any animal that is on the earth or the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air,
How about water baptism by immersion in Jesus' name of an age of understanding?
Acts 8:36-38
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[sup]36 [/sup]Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, “See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?”
[sup]37 [/sup]Then Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.”
And he answered and said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”[sup][a][/sup]
[sup]38 [/sup]So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him.
Note the Greek word is baptizo process of immersion, submersion and emergence.
I now have a question for you. Please state one doctrine of the Bible that the RCC has not perverted beyond recognition.
You really don't have a clue to how to properly interpret the Bible, do you. First, learn how to understand the Bible as it was intended.That is you must learn how to read and interpret the Holy Bible as understood by the early Christians, not by one of the 33,000 + ways of interpretations of today. Don't you understand that there is only "ONE " Interpretation.
You are one hurting dude when it comes to taking verses out of context , learn to read the Holy Bible correctly.
Why is it, with all the above writing from you that you still haven't given me one Catholic Church doctrine that the Catholic Church has changed or left out in the two-thousand years since Jesus made it His Church.
Why can't you show me "just one doctrine" ?
I listed 13 doctrines that are taught by Jesus and the apostles from the scripture that the RCC no longer does or has perverted. Now please give just one that the RCC has not perverted.
The Catholic Church has never changed any defined doctrine. Disciplinary matters, such as priestly celibacy or abstaining from meat on Fridays in Lent, can and do change, but these items are not doctrines and do not come from the deposit of faith left by the apostles. Consequently, the Church may change or dispense such matters as it sees fit.
Also, while you may see certain differences and even changes within or between the teachings of individual theologians, but when the Church defines something as dogma, it doesn't change.
For developments in Catholic teaching to be grounds for accusations of false religion, these would have to involve reversals of defined doctrine. But this simply has never happened in the Church's entire history.So where is that doctrine that you will give me?Perhaps you are confused about Christianity and do not know what a Christian doctrine is , can you at least give me one Catholic doctrine that Christ's Catholic Church has rejected or changed since the Holy Spirit entered the Catholic/Apostolic Church at Pentecost approximately two-thousand years ago. Name one.
Mary remaining a virgin, salvation by grace through faith, Peter as an infallible "first pope", James 5:14-15 healing of the sick, Mary as co mediator with Christ, Acts 2:4 experience, worshiping/bowing down to statutes, repetitive prayer Matthew 6:7, Praying to Mary and the "saints", believers doing Matthew 10:7-8 and Mark 16:17-18, infant baptism by sprinkling instead of immersion at the age of being able to believe as the Bible teaches,
These are all contrary to scripture as taught in the Bible by the apostles and Christ. If the RCC contradicts Jesus and the apostles' clear teaching it disqualifies it from being "apostolic" or Christian. Christians follow the teachings of Christ as the NT apostles did. Read Acts 19:1-6, Acts 10:44-48, Romans 10:9-10 and Ephesians 2:8-10. This is what Jesus and the apostles taught and did. The RCC does not teach or believe this for how one is saved, baptized in the Holy Spirit with speaking in new tongues, or water baptized. Please show me in the Bible how this is not true because what the RCC teaches on these fundamental Christian beliefs does not say what the Bible says.
Show me the Catholic doctrine to any one of those that you have printed above, just one for starters, then we can examine it.
Let me see if I can help you , for example, there isn't any doctrine that tell us that we must pray to Mary in the way that you think., Now ,would you kindly show me any Catholic Doctrine that applies to any of those other beliefs and we will take a look at where it has been rejected or changed by the Catholic Church from its conception at Pentecost 1st. century..
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