Does God still love Jews?

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tim_from_pa

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Here's a link that will clarify the question on this thread about the Jews.Normally, I do my own explaining and for the record I am not officially a member of the site's organization, but I think they do as good of a job as I do explaining about Israel. I sometimes get weary of rewriting the same thing over again.When you click on the link, go to the BIG YELLOW BOX below that states,"5 steps for understanding God's plan for the ages and Israel's role in it"http://www.britishisrael.co.uk/
 

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Why aren't you a member? You're certainly welcome.Thank you for that link!
 

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I'm sorry to disagree with you but that's not true......the un-repented dead will be brought back from the dead, in what the Bible calls the second resurrection.
To be judged and thrown into Hell--not to be given a second chance.
 

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Why aren't you a member? You're certainly welcome.Thank you for that link!
I meant I wasn't a member of that church, but I agree with the site's interpretation.
 

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To be judged and thrown into Hell--not to be given a second chance.
No not the vast majority of them......I will give you scriptures proving my point, but right now I am getting ready fro work.
 

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god IS A JEW=JESUS, so i believe god still loves his family, do not you?
God loves all people equally and just as He did not forsake the Gentiles, so it is with the Jews.Acts 10:34-35 (KJV) 34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
 

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To be judged and thrown into Hell--not to be given a second chance.
The people of ancient Israel who have died without an hope will be brought back to life, then God will pure out His Holy Spirit in them as He has done to us. Also understand that is Israel is an example of what God will do for all the unsaved dead.37:1-14 (KJV) 1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones, 2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry. 3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest. 4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. 5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: 6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD. 7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone. 8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them. 9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live. 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. 11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD. The rest of the dead will not live again untill after the 1,000 year rule of Jesus and the saints. The rest of the dead are those who were not saved when they were alive. This includes the House of Israel and all the Gentiles who have died.Revelation 20:4-5 - And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgement was committed to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the Word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or it’s images, and not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
 

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This was already accomplished during the Harrowing of Hell. It does not need to be done again. Those ancients who have died before Christ's comeing was givin the chance to believe in Him when Christ, as a responce to taken on all our sin when He died, went to Hell to proclaim that not only did He defeat Death but that He is God.The Second Judgemrnt is just that. It is to judge all of mankind based upon their deeds in service of God.
 

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This was already accomplished during the Harrowing of Hell. It does not need to be done again. Those ancients who have died before Christ's comeing was givin the chance to believe in Him when Christ, as a responce to taken on all our sin when He died, went to Hell to proclaim that not only did He defeat Death but that He is God.The Second Judgemrnt is just that. It is to judge all of mankind based upon their deeds in service of God.
Boy you are really twisting scriptures to your belief. Did you not read where it says they were to be resurrected from the dead? The verse said nothing of Jesus/messiah going to Hell and preached to these Israelites. It simply mentions God giving His prophet instructions in regard to the House of Israel. The two scriptures are talking about the same thing. Are you aware that the Bible mentions three resurrections? Are you aware that Jesus will return to set up His kingdom on the earth, and that the saints will rule on the earth with Him? Are you aware that Jesus' kingdom will be set up in Jerusalem? Are you aware that the saints will be kings and priest on the earth? In order for you to understand those who will be in the second resurrection you need to know something about the questions that I have asked. There are many of us who do not want God to be merciful to others.....remember Jonah? He tried to run away from God because he did not want God to be merciful to the people of Nineveh.God tells Jonah to preach to the people of Nineveh, but he ran away because he did not want God to have pity on them.Jonah 1:1-3 (KJV) 1 Now the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the son of Amittai, saying, 2 Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me. 3 But Jonah rose up to flee unto Tarshish from the presence of the LORD, and went down to Joppa; and he found a ship going to Tarshish: so he paid the fare thereof, and went down into it, to go with them unto Tarshish from the presence of the LORD. God told him the second time to go and preach to the City of NinevehJonah 3:1-4 (KJV) 1 And the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the second time, saying, 2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee. 3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey. 4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. The people changed there waysJonah 3:5-10 (KJV) 5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them. 6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. 7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water: 8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands. 9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not? 10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. But Jonah is displeased with God's mercyJonah 4:1-2 (KJV) 1 But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry. 2 And he prayed unto the LORD, and said, I pray thee, O LORD, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil. God reason with Jonah about his attitudeJonah 4:6-11 (KJV) 6 And the LORD God prepared a gourd, and made it to come up over Jonah, that it might be a shadow over his head, to deliver him from his grief. So Jonah was exceeding glad of the gourd. 7 But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that it withered. 8 And it came to pass, when the sun did arise, that God prepared a vehement east wind; and the sun beat upon the head of Jonah, that he fainted, and wished in himself to die, and said, It is better for me to die than to live. 9 And God said to Jonah, Doest thou well to be angry for the gourd? And he said, I do well to be angry, even unto death. 10 Then said the LORD, Thou hast had pity on the gourd, for the which thou hast not laboured, neither madest it grow; which came up in a night, and perished in a night: 11 And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle? Jonah had a very bad attitude, just like some of us; we want God to punish the wicked for there sins, because this is how we feel. We fail to see that this is not what God is about. God is slow to anger and quick to forgive.We fail to understand that people cannot turn to God, unless God Himself reaches out and touch that person. So if the person does not repent, its because God has not called him or her. When God call someone they will respond.
 

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the only way to salvation is jesus. jesus is a jew. if you die and have not recieved jesus as your savior, you are lost=to gehenna. but i believe the jews will be given a a second chance at unmistakable proof that jesus is god. we have that proof now.
 

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12. Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13. And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14. And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORDMatthew 27:50-54 (King James Version) 50.Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51.And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52.And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53.And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. 54.Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.1 Peter 3:19-20.19.By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20.Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.Jonah did not have a bad attitude. He did not want to see the people punished, he saves the crew on the ship by telling them to throw him overboard. Hardly the actions of someone not caring about the lives of sinners. He knew God and knew they would repent. So that God would not punish them, and people would then mock Jonah because there would always be the ones who said, " see it did not happen some prophet you are."Because even though they repented they did not know God personally like Jonah.Jonah knew God and he also knew what they would say once God forgave them. Jonah just didn't want the flack afterwards.faithful.
 

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the only way to salvation is jesus. jesus is a jew. if you die and have not recieved jesus as your savior, you are lost=to gehenna. but i believe the jews will be given a a second chance at unmistakable proof that jesus is god. we have that proof now.
That's not true either, because as the scripture said, "God is no respecter of persons" Everyone who has died who have not accepted Jesus will be offered salvation in the second resurrection......and it is not a second chance; there is no second chance mentioned in the Bible. The unsaved dead will be given there one and only one chance, in the second resurrection; they were not given that in there first life to begin with. Now, the third resurrection will be for all those who were offered salvation and rejected it, they are the ones who will suffer the second death, by being cast into the fire, which will be on the earth by the way. The entire earth will be set ablaze, and once they and everything on the surface is burnt up, the fire will go out. This is where the new heaven and the new earth come in. The earth will look entirely different than it does now. For example, there will be no sea. The earth was created for mankind, and this is were we will live, in fact God the father will come down and live with us, in the New earth. But this is not the end, it’s only the beginning. From here we will expand the kingdom of God by making life on all the planets which God created possible…..the kingdom of God will expand forever. This is our purpose, to have an intimate and deep relationship with God and rule over all creation just like God.
 

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Jonah did not have a bad attitude. He did not want to see the people punished, he saves the crew on the ship by telling them to throw him overboard. Hardly the actions of someone not caring about the lives of sinners. He knew God and knew they would repent. So that God would not punish them, and people would then mock Jonah because there would always be the ones who said, " see it did not happen some prophet you are."Because even though they repented they did not know God personally like Jonah.Jonah knew God and he also knew what they would say once God forgave them. Jonah just didn't want the flack afterwards.
Yes, Jonah did have bad attitude about Nineveh. He did not like God giving them mercy becasue God gave them another chance when they repented.love, hitomi
 

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Because even though they repented they did not know God personally like Jonah.faithful.
Yes that is true, but all God wanted was that they repent of there evil deeds....the time will come when God will resurrect the people of Nineveh, then they will know God as Jonah did.
 

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Yes, Jonah did have bad attitude about Nineveh. He did not like God giving them mercy becasue God gave them another chance when they repented.love, hitomi
Jonah 3:9-10 (King James Version) 9.Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not? 10.And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.Jonah 4 1.But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry. 2.And he prayed unto the LORD, and said, I pray thee, O LORD, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil.As you can see Jonah own words and the actions of God show what I have said to be true. Jonah knew God would not punish them when they repented.Love Faithful.
 

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Jonah 3:9-10 (King James Version) 9.Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not? 10.And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.Jonah 4 1.But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry. 2.And he prayed unto the LORD, and said, I pray thee, O LORD, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil.As you can see Jonah own words and the actions of God show what I have said to be true. Jonah knew God would not punish them when they repented.Love Faithful.
And that was why Jonah ran away, in fact Jonah even said this.Jonah knew that God is merciful and would not punish the people of Nineveh, if the repented. But that was not what Jonah wanted, but rather he wanted God to destroy that nation, that's why Jonah was displeased and angry. Isn't that like some of us? Don't we get a little upset when someone tells us that God will not condemn the sinner who has died without Christ? Don't we want God to punish them because the did not receive Jesus in there lives?Take a look at this parable that Jesus gave, it illustrates my point and the attitude that some have like Jonah had.The parable of the agreed wages of the vineyard workersMatthew 20:1-16 (KJV) 1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. 2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, 4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. 5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. 6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? 7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. 8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. 9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. 10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. 11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, 12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. 13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? 14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee. 15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? 16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
 

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.......the Jews are no better or worse than anyone else. They do things right and wrong like everyone else.......
Are you joking mate?Christians love and accept Jesus as the Son of God.Jews don't.So who in the eyes of God are worse, Christians or Jews?Don't forget, the only UNFORGIVABLE sin is blasphemy against the holy spirit, so what greater blasphemy is there than to reject the Son of God?Jesus said:- "Whoever rejects me rejects God" (Luke 10:16)So people should take great care before leaping to the defence of the Jews..
 

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I'm sorry to disagree with you but that's not true......the un-repented dead will be brought back from the dead, in what the Bible calls the second resurrection.
So according to you, the Jesus-rejecters are brought back to life and given a second chance to accept Jesus?Which of them is going to be dumb enough to then say - "Nope, I still won't accept Jesus, send me to hell!"That's why the "Second Chance Cults" have got Satans fingerprints all over them, we can almost hear him whispering in gullible ears - "Psst don't worry if you die a nonchristian, God will give you a second chance to repent, you can trust me, would I lie?"