Paul said??

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MickinEngland

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Did Paul say even he's unsure wether he himself is saved or not???
Yes, he showed great humbleness by saying it, and is an example to us all not to drop our guard by assuming we're saved -OSAS by MickSome christians believe in OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) which means they dangerously think Jesus's sacrifice guarantees them free entry to heaven, so they take off their body armour, drop their guard, put their feet up and relax.Satan will have 'em for breakfast, we can almost hear him whispering in their gullible ears - "Psst, Jesus saved you, you're heaven-bound so relax from now on, you can trust me, would I lie?"Me, i'll keep my flak jacket on til my dying day
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"Put on the full armour of God against the wiles of the devil" -Eph 6:11-18 And i'll take Jesus's good advice - "Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” -Luke 21:36Even Paul was man enough to admit he didn't know if he was heaven-bound -"I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court, indeed, I do not even judge myself. My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time" -1 Cor 4:3-5".. if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don't fall" -1 Cor 10:12
 

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Yes, he showed great humbleness by saying it, and is an example to us all not to drop our guard by assuming we're saved -OSAS by MickSome christians believe in OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) which means they dangerously think Jesus's sacrifice guarantees them free entry to heaven, so they take off their body armour, drop their guard, put their feet up and relax.Satan will have 'em for breakfast, we can almost hear him whispering in their gullible ears - "Psst, Jesus saved you, you're heaven-bound so relax from now on, you can trust me, would I lie?"Me, i'll keep my flak jacket on til my dying day
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"Put on the full armour of God against the wiles of the devil" -Eph 6:11-18 And i'll take Jesus's good advice - "Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” -Luke 21:36Even Paul was man enough to admit he didn't know if he was heaven-bound -"I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court, indeed, I do not even judge myself. My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time" -1 Cor 4:3-5".. if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don't fall" -1 Cor 10:12
This is complete and utter garbage. Your straw man will not work against the Sword, my friend. You keep scaring people into believing lies, be my guest, but obviously, you are not being watchful enough of yourself. Your presumption is a sin.I believe in eternal security, yet how can I respond to your post when I cannot even recognise my beliefs in your writings at all. I know for a fact that you will not find a more watchful people of themselves working out their salvation with fear and trembling than those who believe in eternal security. “There is no attribute of God more comforting to his children than the doctrine of Divine Sovereignty. Under the most adverse circumstances, in the most severe troubles, they believe that Sovereignty hath ordained their afflictions, that Sovereignty overrules them, and that Sovereignty will sanctify them all. There is nothing for which the children of God ought more earnestly to contend than the dominion of their Master over all creation—the kingship of God over all the works of his own hands—the throne of God, and his right to sit upon that throne. On the other hand, there is no doctrine more hated by worldlings, no truth of which they have made such a foot-ball, as the great, stupendous, but yet most certain doctrine of the Sovereignty of the infinite Jehovah. Men will allow God to be everywhere except on his throne. They will allow him to be in his workshop to fashion worlds and to make stars. They will allow him to be in his almonry to dispense his alms and bestow his bounties. They will allow him to sustain the earth and bear up the pillars thereof, or light the lamps of heaven, or rule the waves of the ever-moving ocean; but when God ascends his throne, his creatures then gnash their teeth; and when we proclaim an enthroned God, and his right to do as he wills with his own, to dispose of his creatures as he thinks well, without consulting them in the matter, then it is that we are hissed and execrated, and then it is that men turn a deaf ear to us, for God on his throne is not the God they love. They love him anywhere better than they do when he sits with his sceptre in his hand and his crown upon his head. But it is God upon the throne that we love to preach. It is God upon his throne whom we trust.” –Charles H. Spurgeon, “Divine Sovereignty,” The New Park Street Pulpit, Vol. 2, (Pasadena, TX: Pilgrim Publications, 1981), p. 185.1 Peter 1:4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. Maybe you should take the time to look past the propaganda and actually try to understand what it is you are critisizing. Dave
 

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Did Paul say even he's unsure wether he himself is saved or not???
:eek: Is this a rhetorical question?
 

MickinEngland

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This is complete and utter garbage. Your straw man will not work against the Sword, my friend. You keep scaring people into believing lies..
Which of the Bible quotes I used do you think are garbage and lies mate?You then go on to quote at length from someone called Charles H. Spurgeon.Who saves, Jesus or Charles H. Spurgeon?
 

MickinEngland

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I was like MickinEngland until yesterday (searching, uncertain, unsure)...
Oh dear mate, if you're so utterly wide of the mark and hopelessly wrong in believing that, how do we know you're not just as wide of the mark and hopelessly wrong in everything else you say?