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LUKE 22:35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.22:37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.22:38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
 

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22:38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough
What makes yout think Jesus gave His dicsiples approval to use sward to kill or harm anyone? It seems that you are interpreting conveniently for your own benefit."Matthew 5:43-48 (King James Version)43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."love, hitomi
 

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How many times are you going to spam that same verse ? Your nothing but a troll and that is why I have you on ignore as you are like a broken record spamming the same verses over and over!!!
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How many times are you going to spam that same verse ? Your nothing but a troll and that is why I have you on ignore as you are like a broken record spamming the same verses over and over!!!
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FEMA wants you joyful troll!!!:eek:
I am repeating the same verse because you are ignoring them and pick and choosing the Bible. It is not how you are supposed to use the Bible. Those verses I quote; They are so simple and easy to understand and you cannot twist around any way.You still did not answer to my question what is FEMA?
 

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HolyWarrior, Joyful, You two are not getting along...Thou shalt not kill (Murder) Exodus 20:13, Deuteronomy 5:17, Matthew 5:21 Matthew 19:18, Mark 10:19, Luke 18:20, Romans 13:9, James 2:11Yes, we are suppose to love our enemy according to the scripture...however as Christians, we are not second class citizen...We are allowed to self-defense. Not to lie in wait (plan to kill somebody)Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
 

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HolyWarrior, Joyful, You two are not getting along...Thou shalt not kill (Murder) Exodus 20:13, Deuteronomy 5:17, Matthew 5:21 Matthew 19:18, Mark 10:19, Luke 18:20, Romans 13:9, James 2:11Yes, we are suppose to love our enemy according to the scripture...however as Christians, we are not second class citizen...We are allowed to self-defense. Not to lie in wait (plan to kill somebody)Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
There is no "however." Jesus is expecting more from His followers and Jesus did not say "except in self defense."love, hitomi
 

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It's called common sense Joyful. And Christ did use His common sense. Love is common sense, so is defending people (family, friends etc) common sense.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
 

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It's called common sense Joyful. And Christ did use His common sense. Love is common sense, so is defending people (family, friends etc) common sense.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
Jesus' message is very clear. Jesus' standard is much, much higher than secular common sense. Thats what makes Jesus' followers different. Even Muslims' say self-defense is ok. Jesus teachings are not the same as muslims or any other religion.
 

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Since when does the secular world ever use their common sense? Since when has evil ever use common sense, never. Again, Yahshua uses common sense, even the common sense of turning the table of the moneychangers.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.
 

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I've never read anything in the bible that made me think, even for a second, that I'm not supposed to defend myself and my family. Even those Matthew scriptures don't say "Don't defend yourself" or "Lay down your life for your enemy". I did hear loud and clear if you don't have the means to defend yourself sell your other stuff and go get it.
 

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Since when does the secular world ever use their common sense? Since when has evil ever use common sense, never. Again, Yahshua uses common sense, even the common sense of turning the table of the moneychangers.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.
Ok, Jag, We have a big difference in understanding God and Jesus. I believe "love your enemy" is utmost noble of Jesus teaching and I adhere to it. If you don't agree we have to wait and see from Jesus who is right. To me it is very simple but you seem to be switching around the reasonings.turning table has nothing to do with killing your enemy; there is a huge difference between killing and turning the tables.We have to agree to disagree. Love, hitomi
 

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I've never read anything in the bible that made me think, even for a second, that I'm not supposed to defend myself and my family. Even those Matthew scriptures don't say "Don't defend yourself" or "Lay down your life for your enemy". I did hear loud and clear if you don't have the means to defend yourself sell your other stuff and go get it.
I agree with you For Life.
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And yes it is written in the scripture(s)Luke 22:36 - Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
 

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I've never read anything in the bible that made me think, even for a second, that I'm not supposed to defend myself and my family. Even those Matthew scriptures don't say "Don't defend yourself" or "Lay down your life for your enemy". I did hear loud and clear if you don't have the means to defend yourself sell your other stuff and go get it.
Amen!!! joyful is just a pious troll who obviously just comes here to argue and contradict everything someone says!!!
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Luke 22:36 - Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
What makes you think Jesus wanted them to use sword for killing? You are interpreting to fit your desire. You interpretation is completely out of context. Two little swords would not be enough for 12 men, anyway.You don't love your enemy by killing them. There is no enemy to love if you kill them. Get real, people.
 

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Amen!!! joyful is just a pious troll who obviously just comes here to argue and contradict everything someone says!!!
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I dont need to join any secret organiztion. I have Jesus.
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love, hitomi
 

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Luke 22:36 - Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
What makes you think Jesus wanted them to use sword for killing? You are interpreting to fit your desire. You interpretation is completely out of context. Two little swords would not be enough for 12 men, anyway.You don't love your enemy by killing them. There is no enemy to love if you kill them. Get real, people.*sigh* Who said using a physical weapon was meant to be used for hatred? My true Sword, is the Word. Do you not realize that David killed Goliath for defending Israel?Killing is not exactly murder (if used self-defense) Do you not have a right and common sense to defend yourself and your children?(HolyWarrior;16197)
Amen!!! joyful is just a pious troll who obviously just comes here to argue and contradict everything someone says!!!
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Who are you to call her a troll? I do not like the fact that you must name calling on people. That was pretty immature of you.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
 

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*sigh* Who said using a physical weapon was meant to be used for hatred? My true Sword, is the Word. Do you not realize that David killed Goliath for defending Israel?
Yes, he did, in OT time God directly ordered to destroy evil ones. We are not god and neither the gorvernments. we should not use OT wars to justify nowadays wars. God knows what He is doing and humans dont.
Killing is not exactly murder (if used self-defense)
Military is not a godly organization. That's why Jesus telling us not to kill the enemy. Can you trust your politicians? what makes you think they are telling the truth why they are starting the war?
Do you not have a right and common sense to defend yourself and your children?
I can trust God that He will give us discernment on how to handle any predicaments without harming anyone, especially killing. My family and I have strong faith. We don't rely on weapons whatsoever.Jag, I ask you simple question; how can you love your enemy if you kill them?love, hitomi
 

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*sigh* Who said using a physical weapon was meant to be used for hatred? My true Sword, is the Word. Do you not realize that David killed Goliath for defending Israel?
Yes, he did, in OT time God directly ordered to destroy evil ones. We are not God and neither the gorvernments. we should not use OT wars to justify nowadays wars. God knows what He is doing and humans dont.No true Christians would claim to be God. In fact God never changed His ways. (except we can repent)Matthew 5:17-18 - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.The funny thing is, while humans don't know what they are doing, God still use humans for His plans.
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Killing is not exactly murder (if used self-defense)
Military is not a godly organization. That's why Jesus telling us not to kill the enemy. Can you trust your politicians? what makes you think they are telling the truth why they are starting the war?Politics? I hate polotics with a passion...Who need politics when we got the Sword, the Word with us. The only good thing that comes from them (by reading articles) is that it gets closer each day. Even though I hate politics, I still prefer defending my family instead of letting evil wins. I so can't wait to meet the AntiChrist. He's a pain.
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Do you not have a right and common sense to defend yourself and your children?
I can trust God that He will give us discernment on how to handle any predicaments without harming anyone, especially killing. My family and I have strong faith. We don't rely on weapons whatsoever.Jag, I ask you simple question; how can you love your enemy if you kill them?love, hitomiI can trust that YHWH in Yahshua's name to give me discernment and common sense to defend myself and my family. But of course, Love is not always sweet.I ask you a simple question too, How can you love thyself and your family, if you decide to let evil murder you and your family?Anyway, I'm sure we will agree to disagree.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
 

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No true Christians would claim to be God. In fact God never changed His ways. (except we can repent)
You are right, He never change but He has plans. Killing evil time is over, my friend. God was ordering the war and nothing else was approved by Him.
Matthew 5:17-18 - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Yes, law He is talking about is "Love God" and "love your neighbor". Please be consistant with the context of God and Jesus charactors.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
He has fulfilled the low by loving God and loving us. God's plan is still not finished yet as eveyone knows.
The funny thing is, while humans don't know what they are doing, God still use humans for His plans.
Thats right, all we can do is try our best to follow Jesus' teachings even loving our enemy.
Politics? I hate polotics with a passion...Who need politics when we got the Sword, the Word with us.
You are approving using the "weapon" by approving military not trusting God by using God's Sward..
The only good thing that comes from them (by reading articles) is that it gets closer each day. Even though I hate politics, I still prefer defending my family instead of letting evil wins.
You are preaching to trust chariots and horses instead of trusting God and His defense. Winning the war is not victory as God's people. It is actually defeat. You should try God and Jesus prospectives instead of human's. God says our thoughts are not His thoughts. Most Christians are being just like any other religion by their action of apporving and joining the military. This is very serious mistake my friends.
I so can't wait to meet the AntiChrist. He's a pain.
He is already at work fiercely. Look at the wars and fierce crimes everywhere.
I can trust that YHWH in Yahshua's name to give me discernment and common sense to defend myself and my family. But of course, Love is not always sweet.
You seem to trust weapon rather than His protection of our spirits.
I ask you a simple question too, How can you love thyself and your family, if you decide to let evil murder you and your family?
You did not answer to my question and gave me a question instead. but I can answer you.Please, don't put your word into my mouth. I trust God to protect us to do the right things as Christins without using the weapon and harming and killing anyone. We are Christians. We live by faith. Abraham and other men of faith lived by faith. I am sure you know what I am talking about. Are you saying Abraham was not God's servant becaseu he obeyed and was prepared to sacrifice his loving son? He just trusted God completely, that is faith; trusing God.
Anyway, I'm sure we will agree to disagree.
that's the only one I can agree in your arguments in this subject.love, hitomi
 

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Who is a good neighbor?I know someone, who came across a gang, beating a young man to death.There were no phones around and no time to get to one to call for help.So he took his life in his hands, attacked the gang, they were so surprised by his attack that they fled but not without inflicting injuries. Both the young man and his rescuer recovered after a long stay in the hospital. Who was the good neighbor? Should we run from evil or stand up to it. "Be Strong and Courageous"John 15"13Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."