Here is what you said:7angels said:nowhere that i know of had i said we were under the law. i said we are still to obey the law. even Jesus gave us two commandments that encompasses all other commandments. to love God and love your neighbor. these are old testaments commandments that Jesus told us to obey. so if these two are still valid then there are others too. btw
physical circumcision is symbolic to being circumcised of the heart. but yes in answer to your question we are to follow the commandment to be circumcised(of the heart).
do you still have questions about what i am referring too? if not i will go on an explain more but i need to know you understand where i am at first before i go on.
grace does not cancel out the law but compliments the law(matt 5:17-48).
Where do you see this "compliments" the law? My Bible says, "Fulfills the law".
Jesus came not to negate the law but in all actuality he made the law more strict.
Actually, the Holy Spirit through Paul says that we are "delivered from the law".
Rom_7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Also, the law cannot get any stricter than it was. You cannot get any stricter than death for disobedience to the law.
It is because of grace that are able to conquer sin and be made righteous before God.
Well, it is because of grace but it is also because we have been delivered from the law, by grace (Romans_7:6) and made a new creature in Christ (something that never existed in the OT) and indwelt with the Holy Spirit. It is also because we have died with Christ and been raised to newness of life. The man that died in Christ was subject to the law. The new creature that was raised in Christ is now free from the law to marry another. Free to marry Christ. We cannot be married to the Law and to Christ. That is spiritual adultery and idolatry.
Rom_7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
The law for the church is to show us what we need to change in our lives to allow us to have a closer relationship with God.
No. The Law is for the lawbreaker not for the Church. The Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus is for the Church.
1Ti_1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
Matt 5:18 shows us not even the minutest part of the law shall perish until everything that God has declared happens. thus the old testament commands have not been declared null and void.
Yes, the law shall not perish, so that is why you must perish (die) in order to be free from the law and to serve Christ. When you were born-again (spiritually regenerated), your old man died and a new man rose in his place.
Eph_2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph_4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
If you put yourself under the law or think that you have not been delivered from it, then you are obligated to "continue in all things that are written in the book of the law to do them".
Gal_3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
It is true that the law WAS our schoolmaster. The Scriptures actually say that in Gal_3:24.
Gal_3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal_3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
But Gal_3:25 says that for those who have come to faith in Christ, "WE ARE NO LONGER UNDER A SCHOOLMASTER (the LAW)".
Gal_3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
So, if we are led by the Spirit we will love God with our all of our heart and we will not defraud our neighbor in any way. We will love our neighbor! This is what Jesus means by going further than what the law requires. Jesus fulfills the law by truly loving God and man from the heart and not just obeying the law from an outward point of view. In the OT they knew that the act of adultery was a transgression of the commandment. But, what about lust in their heart? Jesus deals with the sins of the heart (lust, hate, covetousness). Loving God and our neighbor from the heart (not just lip service), fulfills the law. It goes beyond the law. It is the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus.
Gal_5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
So, if you are led by the Spirit, you are NOT UNDER THE LAW. The simplicity of Gal_5:8 is an understatement. Does your Bible say that you ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW if you are being led by the Spirit?
Gal_5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Mat_22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat_22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat_22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat_22:40 On these two commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets.
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