Given the scriptures in Daniel 12, in which God told Daniel that the prophetic scriptures would remain sealed and closed to understanding until the time of the end, Is it therefore possible that "the Antichrist" theory and all the teachings regarding the Antichrist, are fables?
Is "the Antichrist" teaching a fable?
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revturmoil
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They are more like misinterpretations that millions have accepted as truth. Pretribulationism has added fuel to the fire of misunderstanding the end times.
The experts have people convinced that the man of sin i.e. "the anti-christ" will be a global dictator. They have people believing in a unified global religion and be required to accept, "the mark of the beast" that they say is a micro-chip implant mandatory for monetary transactions.
None of that is true. So it is all fables.
I'll say it again.
The ten horned beast is the kingdom of the anti-christ. It's a ten nation Islamic empire and Islam is the religion of that beast. It's not global.
The two horned beast is Islam and the the mother of the harlots offspring who initiates the 'mark'. The two horns could be symbolic of the two major sects of Islam.
There's a good chance that bible prophecy teaches "more than one end time ten nation empire" seeking dominance of the Mid-East region. There could be two ten nation empires pushing for power of the Middle-East in the last days and those kingdoms are soon to rise. The Arab/Islamic world is now in apostasy and the man of sin will unite ten nations of the region.
Saddam, who I think is still alive, could also return as the beast...in the spirit of Nebuchadnezzar... They are both "the beast that was and is not"... "the mortally wounded anti-christ"... to fulfill the remaining 3 1/2 years of Nubuchadnezzar's 70 year prophecy of the Jewish captivity.
The next 911 is just around the corner and so is the end of things as we know it.
We'll soon see who believes in fables.
Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Sealed until the end because that's when the prophecies start to unravel. The seals begin to open. But so many christians have already formed their beliefs and few are willing to change their mind. It's easier for them and the experts to remain in denial until proven wrong than it is to admit they've made a mistake. The experts have them deceived.
Thanks, kao.
It appears that you too have bought the traditional teaching of a coming false messiah or "Antichrist".
How do you justify the teaching of a coming Antichrist when that theory was created and put together by 18th century John Darby?
Seeing that God said the prophetic scriptures would not be understood until the time of the end, how is it that John Darby was able to understand those prophecies?
Could it be that he added the term "Antichrist" to the terms "man of sin; son of perdition"?
And, is it possible that he misinterpreted the terms "daily sacrifice", "the temple of God", "the holy place", "the abomination of desolation", and other terms in the scriptures?
Could it be that he created his own private interpretation of 2nd Thessalonians 2 and of the prophetic scriptures?
It appears that you too have bought the traditional teaching of a coming false messiah or "Antichrist".
How do you justify the teaching of a coming Antichrist when that theory was created and put together by 18th century John Darby?
Seeing that God said the prophetic scriptures would not be understood until the time of the end, how is it that John Darby was able to understand those prophecies?
Could it be that he added the term "Antichrist" to the terms "man of sin; son of perdition"?
And, is it possible that he misinterpreted the terms "daily sacrifice", "the temple of God", "the holy place", "the abomination of desolation", and other terms in the scriptures?
Could it be that he created his own private interpretation of 2nd Thessalonians 2 and of the prophetic scriptures?
John Darby was just one link in the chain. The various forms of the futurist doctrine commonly taught in todays churches can all be traced back to the writings of Ribera (16[sup]th[/sup] century). The antichrist, man of sin and the beast of Rev13 are not the same entity. Antichrist’s are those that deny Christ/God and they were already here when John first wrote about them. Those seeking to understand the man of sin must first understand what/where the temple of God is (see 1Cor3:16-17, 2Cor6:16, Eph2:19-21, Heb8:1-2). As Scripture tells us and history proves beasts are kingdoms (not antichrists).
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces
If the Word/God does not change then if a beast was a kingdom in Daniel it will still be a kingdom in Rev.
To gain a full understanding of all this please read the Free online book The False Prophet <link
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces
If the Word/God does not change then if a beast was a kingdom in Daniel it will still be a kingdom in Rev.
To gain a full understanding of all this please read the Free online book The False Prophet <link
Hi Ridgerunner,
The modern-day churches and prophesy teachers are basically teaching that which John Darby taught, which was:
The Antichrist will make a treaty with Israel, and will break the treaty.
The Antichrist will take away the daily animal scrificing in Israel, and will sit in a new constructed temple in Israel, and proclain that he is God.
The Antichrist will suffer a mortal head wound, and come back to life.
The Antichrist will lead the nations of "Gog" against Israel.
The Antichrist will go after the Christian Jews in Israel to persecute them.
These are the basic things that Darby taught regarding the end-time prophecies, and that the modern-day church leaders are teaching.
And yet there are no scriptures in Daniel or Revelation which remotely resemble those teachings.
Therefore it would appear that Darby; using his own private interpretation of 2nd Thess. 2, created a myth and fables which the present-day churches have bought into.
The modern-day churches and prophesy teachers are basically teaching that which John Darby taught, which was:
The Antichrist will make a treaty with Israel, and will break the treaty.
The Antichrist will take away the daily animal scrificing in Israel, and will sit in a new constructed temple in Israel, and proclain that he is God.
The Antichrist will suffer a mortal head wound, and come back to life.
The Antichrist will lead the nations of "Gog" against Israel.
The Antichrist will go after the Christian Jews in Israel to persecute them.
These are the basic things that Darby taught regarding the end-time prophecies, and that the modern-day church leaders are teaching.
And yet there are no scriptures in Daniel or Revelation which remotely resemble those teachings.
Therefore it would appear that Darby; using his own private interpretation of 2nd Thess. 2, created a myth and fables which the present-day churches have bought into.
Darby was just one link in the chain. Ribera started that chain in the 16th century it went through numerous changes before it got to Darby. Darby was the one who inspired CI Scofield of the Scofiels bible (if memory serves me correctly) which made the pretrib, premil position popular in the U.S. The commonly held belief that "the Antichrist" is an end time world leader is a myth. The commonly held belief that the "man of sin" is an endtime world leader is a myth. The commonly held belief that the leopard,bear lion beast of Rev13 is "the Antichrist" is a myth. Please read the free online book I posted a link to in my earlier post if you would like to gain a better understanding of the view I hold. Be blessed!
revturmoil
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No I haven't. what I believe is all different. Why the presumption?
I have nothing to do with Darby. My beliefs are from my own research.
Darby wasn't living during the time of the end. Darby told us what he believed and I disagree with the bulk of it. You've got me all wrong!
Darby added nothing. Loook at the original text! I don't know how Darby arrived at his conclusions and really don't care. I know how I arrived at mine.
A lot of people misinterpret it. I don't believe in any of that pre-trib global stuff so you've got me all wrong from the get go!
Every body's interpretation is private. Nobody has it all right.
God’s Word has defined what antichrist is in the following verses.
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
This is part of the problem when we rely on man’s definition instead of God’s definition of what antichrist is. And it is my opinion this is where many people err in the understanding of what antichrist is.
Anti
AN'TI
, n. [Gr. See Ante.] A preposition signifying against, opposite, contrary, or in place of; used in many English words.
Christ
CHRIST
, n. THE ANOINTED; an appellation given to the Savior of the World, and synonymous with the Hebrew Messiah. It was a custom of antiquity to consecrate persons to the sacerdotal and regal offices by anointing them with oil.
Man wants to take this word antichrist break it down into two words which the above definitions give us. And this leads to a false exegesis of scripture.
Are we to trust man’s definition of what antichrist is or should we trust God’s definition of what antichrist is?
Doesn’t scripture tell us it is better to trust in the Lord than put our confidence in man. Psalms 118:8
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
This is part of the problem when we rely on man’s definition instead of God’s definition of what antichrist is. And it is my opinion this is where many people err in the understanding of what antichrist is.
Anti
AN'TI
, n. [Gr. See Ante.] A preposition signifying against, opposite, contrary, or in place of; used in many English words.
Christ
CHRIST
, n. THE ANOINTED; an appellation given to the Savior of the World, and synonymous with the Hebrew Messiah. It was a custom of antiquity to consecrate persons to the sacerdotal and regal offices by anointing them with oil.
Man wants to take this word antichrist break it down into two words which the above definitions give us. And this leads to a false exegesis of scripture.
Are we to trust man’s definition of what antichrist is or should we trust God’s definition of what antichrist is?
Doesn’t scripture tell us it is better to trust in the Lord than put our confidence in man. Psalms 118:8
revturmoil
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Kingdom's have a king and a system. It's not that difficult to understand if you research it a bit that there is a person involved.
There's a difference between the spirit of anti-christ and the end-time figure that brings the world to Armageddon. We just happen to call that person the final 'anti-christ'!
I understand it like this .....
The instruction is to Daniel (to seal up the scroll) because it does not concern him (or his generation) .... because it is far in the future (time of the end)
Now regarding whom it does concern (during the time of the end) ..... is clearly says .... those who are wise will understand
It could very well be modern (wise) scholars (like Darby for example) who are on the right track. (or Hal Lindsey etc.)
But I expect that does not interest you genny ..... it appears your motive is simply to bash them.
Please correct me if I am wrong ,... , but that is how I perceive your motive on this thread you started. Thanks.
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[sup]12:9 [/sup]He replied, “Go your way, Daniel, because the words are rolled up and sealed until the time of the end. [sup]10 [/sup]Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
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Our time would be better spent determining who the wise are .... and hopefully we will be included as the wise ones genny.
Best wishes.
Arnie
revturmoil
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His motive is to critic them as I do. Bashing them is ok too since they promote the lie of pretribulationism, globalism, and that the church will produce the demonic duo! I'm in total agreement with genny. None of the following is true.....
Lindsey and the host of other pre-trib prophecy teachers are way off on their teachings.
I understand your position kaoticprophit , you (and many others) feel free to fault legitimate scholars year after year .....fine .... yet are never able to provide an accurate description of what you think will occur at the end.
I would greatly appreciate a short paragraph from you , in your own words , what you feel will take place.
It does not have to be a perfect description , just a generality in your own words .
Please do not copy and paste 10 pages of old arguments .... it has already been done to death on this forum.
I am interested in discussing these topics as wise folks trying to become wiser.
thanks.
revturmoil
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One short paragraph doesn't do it. Look at my post and topics if you want to see what I believe.
But to make it simple.
Not true! There will not be a peace treaty with Israel. The word 'covenant' isn't a peace treaty it's an alliance.
Not true. The anti-christ will authenticate himself in the Dome of the Rock or Al'aqsa mosque. No temple needs to be rebuilt and no sacrifices need resumption only to be ended for prophecy to be fulfilled.
True to a point I suppose. MAYBE there is some truth to that.
I'm not sure Gog is the anti-christ. He may be.
He will attempt to exterminate all 'infidels' within his kingdom. And the harlot's offspring will kill many through terrorism believing they are doing God's will.
No globalism. No one world religion. And no pre-trib rapture. No micro chip. No peace treaty with Israel. No temple rebuilt. No resumption of animal sacrifices.
The idea that a temple needs to be rebuilt is a mis-translation of Daniel 9:27 and people today are actually trying to enable this prophecy.
So the Dome needs to be destroyed. A Jewish temple needs to be rebuilt. Animal sacrifices need to resume....only to have them cease!
I don't fall for it!
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
The popular amplified interpretation of this verse goes as follows:
The antichrist will enter into a peace treaty with Israel for seven years. The peace treaty will allow him to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem. In the middle of the seven years, he will put an end to Jewish worship in the temple, and will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
DAN 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:...
The word covenant is briyth ber-eeth' from 1262 (in the sense of cutting (like 1254)); a compact (because made by passing between pieces of flesh):--confederacy, (con-)feder(-ate), covenant, league.
The word covenant means alliance or confederacy. These are always made with friends. Peace treaties are made with enemies. What is mentioned in Daniel 9:27 is not a peace treaty. It's an alliance of nations who want to destroy Israel!
The man of sin will sit in the temple of God. What is the temple of God? What is "the holy place?"
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Temple in this verse = Strong's # 3485
1) used of the temple at Jerusalem,
2) any heathen temple or shrine
Vine's Expository dictionary of New Testament words say's,
Shrine:
"the inmost part of a temple, a shrine," is used in the plural in Act 19:24, of the silver models of the pagan "shrine" in which the image of Diana (Greek Artemis) was preserved.
I don't believe that this temple or "holy place" as described by Jesus in Mt. 24 is the holy of holies or a Jewish temple at all.
Upon the holy place, Where Solomon's and Herod's temple stood, stands the Dome of the Rock and an Islamic complex of buildings that extend to the Al'aqsa mosque. When Christ mentioned the "the holy place" in Mathew 24 he was refering to the surrounding area of the temple which is now an Islamic holy site complex. Not the Holy of Holies. The "holy place" is the either the Dome of the Rock or Al'aqsa mosque, or the entire complex.
Arab/Islamic countries, who by the way have always been Israel's long time bitter and hateful enemy, will successfully invade Israel and re-capture the old city of East Jerusalem which is Gods only claimed piece of real estate on the planet. Muslim's will once again have complete control of the city and the Dome area. East Jerusalem will quite possibly become the capital city of the united ten nation Islamic Empire of the anti-christ, making the old city the hub of Islamic terrorism or "the whore of Babylon".
Let me put it this way to you Arnie. I'll open a can of worms. I believe...
The four horsemen of the Apocalypse are all Arab and Islamic and that all prophecies point to the Arab's and Islam. The first two seals have opened in the name of bin laden/Muhammad (white horse) and Hussein (red horse). At the next 9 11 the third and fourth seal happen in rapid sucession just as seal one and two passed. Babylon falls twice...
Isaiah 21:9 tells me (so far and subject to change) that the seals may pass in two's!
Isaiah 21:9 And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground.
"When he sees riders, horsemen in pairs, A train of donkeys, a train of camels, Let him pay close attention, very close attention.
"The covenant with many....
That's either Psalm 83 or Ez. 38-39.
The beast has ten horns....My conclusion...The antichrist kingdom has ten nations. There may be more than one kingdom that emerges for dominance of the Arab Middle East to include Israel.
No temple will ever be rebuilt. The Dome complex is where the man of sin authenticates himself.
Islam is the religion of the beasts. Catholicism and the EU will have nothing to do with this end time kingdom other than become recipients of it's abominations and become it's enemy.
Saddam...Bin Laden... could be the returning mahdi (muhammad) and dajjal who I think are the biblical false prophet and man of sin.
Assad and Ahmadinnijad could be seal three and four.
The Mid-East is in the prophecied apostasy. As dictators fall and the Islamist conspire to take over, the man of sin arrives and unifies a ten nation kingdom that appear to have only seven kings.
There could also be another beast that emerges for dominance of the region. They are both islamic and want Israel destroyed.
I think the next 911 happens around the same time the enablers of Islamic prophecy bring the Mid-East in complete chaos.
Nebuchadnezzar's yoke of Iron has not yet been broken and the seventy year captivity still has 3 1/2 years yet to be fulfilled.
Saddam believed he was the re-incarnation of Nebuchadnezzar. He is the soon to return ASSYRIAN anti-christ.
For now...I believe that the spirit of Nebuchadnezzar will ascend from the bottomless pit in the form of the still living Saddam Hussein and possess him to fulfill these prophecies. ( 70 years and Nebu's yoke of Iron)
Now that I've opened a can of worms...
ANY QUESTIONS?
I think you all are missing the whole point of this thread.
The question is,
Is it possible that "the Antichrist" teaching is a fable, along with everything else that's being taught today regarding the end-time scriptures?
I read the scriptures in Daniel 12 to mean that Daniel's prophetic scriptures, along with all other of the prophetic scriptures, will not be understood until the time of the end, AFTER those prophecies have come to fruition.
Based on that, I believe the proper way, and in fact the ONLY way to interpret a prophetic scripture is after an event occurs which matches that prophecy.
Therefore, how in the world could anyone in the 18th century or earlier, interpret for instance, "the daily sacrifice" as meaning animal sacrifices when it's not even being practiced by the Jews today?
Another example would be the term "temple of God".
How could anyone interpret "the temple of God" in the prophetic scriptures, as meaning a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem without one having been built? Did they ever stop to think that "the temple of God" means the Church?
These are just a couple of examples where Darby and others may have used their own private interpretation of the prophetic scriptues.
The question is,
Is it possible that "the Antichrist" teaching is a fable, along with everything else that's being taught today regarding the end-time scriptures?
I read the scriptures in Daniel 12 to mean that Daniel's prophetic scriptures, along with all other of the prophetic scriptures, will not be understood until the time of the end, AFTER those prophecies have come to fruition.
Based on that, I believe the proper way, and in fact the ONLY way to interpret a prophetic scripture is after an event occurs which matches that prophecy.
Therefore, how in the world could anyone in the 18th century or earlier, interpret for instance, "the daily sacrifice" as meaning animal sacrifices when it's not even being practiced by the Jews today?
Another example would be the term "temple of God".
How could anyone interpret "the temple of God" in the prophetic scriptures, as meaning a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem without one having been built? Did they ever stop to think that "the temple of God" means the Church?
These are just a couple of examples where Darby and others may have used their own private interpretation of the prophetic scriptues.
revturmoil
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Daniel 12 doesn't imply that understanding prophecy cannot be understood until after the fact. It implies that our understanding of them comes only during the time of the end. We seek and pray for understanding and the signs are there. If it were true that we would never understand these things until after they pass then the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation were a waste of time.
Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
If we are unable to understand God's Word of Prophecy, then why is the book of Revelation the only book in the bible with a blessing for those who read it both at the beginning and the end of it?
Revelation 1:3 ¶Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
Revelation 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
The words temple of God don't always mean the church. In fact those words usually indicate a real temple. Look how many words there are for temple before you make those kind of blanket statements.
http://www.eliyah.co...&isindex=temple
I posted in the following link what many of the early Church fathers understood about the coming Antichrist as a singular entity, a king, sitting in a stone temple in Jerusalem. Their understanding of the coming Antichrist came from the Book of Daniel, from Christ Himself in His Olivet Discourse, from Paul in 2 Thess.2:3-4 and 2 Corinthians 11, and in Revelation 9, 11, 12, 13, 16, and 17.
So, by trying to say God's Word does not teach about the coming a singular Antichrist while so much Scripture evidence exists, of which the early Churches fathers agreed, it makes those who refuse to heed it begin to look very silly.
http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/16501-johns-first-phrase-of-1-john-218/#entry163351
"The folly of interpreters has been to foretell times and things by this prophecy [Revelation], as if God designed to make them prophets. By this rashness they have not only exposed themselves, but brought the prophecy also into contempt. The design of God was much otherwise. He gave this and the prophecies of the Old Testament, not to gratify men's curiosities by enabling them to foreknow things, but that after they were fulfilled they might be interpreted by the event, and his own providence, not the interpreters', be then manifested thereby to the world. For the event of things predicted many ages before will then be a convincing argument that the world is governed by Providence." - Sir Isaac Newton
“Those things of God which are now dark and obscure will hereafter be made clear, and easy to be understood. Truth is the daughter of time. Scripture prophecies will be expounded by the accomplishment of them; therefore they are given, and for that expectation they are reserved. Therefore they are told us before, that, when they do come to pass, we may believe”. - Matthew Henry
You are not alone in your belief. If you will take the time to read the free online book The False Prophet <LINK you will see that the futurist view commonly taught has been exposed as error. Sadly most in today’s churches have their doctrinal filters glued in place and are unwilling to explore the possibility the doctrines they have been taught and cling to could be in error. I guess it only demonstrates 2Tim4:3 is correct
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
So let’s look at every time Paul used the term temple of God and see if he gives us any reason to believe he meant any other temple then the body of a believer or the corporate body of believers.
1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth
in you?
1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are
2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people
Eph 2:19-22 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens
with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the
apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
The only time Paul referred to the temple of God that could possibly be considered a man made building in 2Th2;3 and to use that verse to prove itself is nothing more then circular reasoning that requires one to ignore the definition Scripture itself gives.
I can understand how a Jew that has given the spirit of slumber might believe that the temple will be rebuilt and animal sacrifices resumed, but as Christians we should understand that we have a New Covenant and a new temple.
Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Heb 8:1-2 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an
high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A
minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not
man.
Yes and as was pointed out in that thread you use the doctrines of men to justify your belief while ignoring the fact that in Scripture John told us exactly who/what the antichrist they heard shall come was when he said “this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world”
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Isn’t it rather hypocritic of you to accuse others of following the doctrines of men while your doctrine is based on the writings of men and ignores what Scripture actually states?
revturmoil
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Ridgerunner,
I can see your having trouble understanding this. This really is very simple. Maybe a warm cup of milk and an open mind would help!
I can see your having trouble understanding this. This really is very simple. Maybe a warm cup of milk and an open mind would help!
And yet you continue to promote the website www.beholdthebeast.com which espouses (and proves with Scripture and history) the same view I hold concerning antichrist, man of sin, temple of God and the identity of the beasts of Rev13. Ironic you would promote a website that espouses a view you disagree with.
revturmoil
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I promote Behold the Beast because I agree that Islam is the beast of Revelation and there's a lot of good information there. It's impossible to promote any site that I completely agree with.
But if you tell me what you're specifically refering to I'll comment.
If you mean this page.
http://www.beholdthe...mple_of_god.htm
yes I do disagree with him.
Or this...
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/antichrist.htm
Yes I do disagree with some of it.
Anti-christ is anything that is against Christ. The one we call 'the anti-christ' is the person who rules an end-time ten nation kingdom.
The term temple of God is like any other term in scripture. Sometimes it's literal...and usually is. Sometimes it's symbolic.
It's not that difficult to figure out if you look at the context and the authors intended meaning.
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