revturmoil
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That has nothing to do with it! Sounds like you're a JW!
That too is incorrect. A mistranslation of the word ALL!
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That has nothing to do with it! Sounds like you're a JW!
That too is incorrect. A mistranslation of the word ALL!
Veteran wrote: " Not sure what you're trying to say there. Satan has already been judged and sentenced to perish, remember? God is not going go back on that. He has already shown us that a fire within Satan's midst will turn him to ashes upon the earth. "
I believe there is a difference between ...knowing what Satan will do and where Satan will go AND his in-ability to change, in other words his free will. Can Satan change? I believe so... Will Satan change? I believe not. Now, why the distinction? If he cannot change then he has not free will... If he can change, then he does have free will - this whether or not he changes.
I believe there is a difference between ...knowing what Satan will do and where Satan will go AND his in-ability to change, in other words his free will. Can Satan change? I believe so... Will Satan change? I believe not. Now, why the distinction? If he cannot change then he has not free will... If he can change, then he does have free will - this whether or not he changes.
Even if they are innocent? What kind of God do you follow that would allow an innocent persoin o death row to have the mark forced on him and go to hell?
But my post was not referenced to only death row inmates.
Now, could those in prison be given the choice take the Mark and be freed, take the Mark and continue their sentence or deny the mark and be beheaded? sure...it could and it may...or it may not. Your counting on Satan to do things as not to ...at least... attempt to... attack Christians.
Via a rapture.... that will not be available for him except those able to withstand persecution.
But my post was not referenced to only death row inmates.
Now, could those in prison be given the choice take the Mark and be freed, take the Mark and continue their sentence or deny the mark and be beheaded? sure...it could and it may...or it may not. Your counting on Satan to do things as not to ...at least... attempt to... attack Christians.
Via a rapture.... that will not be available for him except those able to withstand persecution.
My last response was about your speculation concerning SATAN,
You said:
So why... are you now throwing up at me about flesh inmates on death row???
The idea is... that there are reasons for the necessity of a rapture and then the concept of who this rapture would be intended.
Scripture clearly says there will be Christians who will be persecuted for not taking the Beast's Mark, unless one thinks that speaks only of Israel who inside its own boarders will be persecuted by the Palesitne people? That would require the philisitnes to be stronger than the Jews in Israel. Barring that would mean those persecuted are Christians that are not only pesecuted but also be-headed. Which means there ARE Christians that do suffer Tribulations. OK then... who is spared the wrath of Tribulations and how? This bings us to the Rapture... Now we go deeper to who is the Rapture for? So, we arrive at those un-able to deny the Beast's Mark... Now by "deny" we must then draw a "line in the sand"... and where is that "line in the sand" and who has the right tto define its placement? I ... expect... that line in the sand to be for those who (for what ever reason ) could not deny it.
And so.. a Christian death row inamte unable to deny the mark could get raptured... (especially if he was innocent of the crime )
This is my speculation...
Scripture clearly says there will be Christians who will be persecuted for not taking the Beast's Mark, unless one thinks that speaks only of Israel who inside its own boarders will be persecuted by the Palesitne people? That would require the philisitnes to be stronger than the Jews in Israel. Barring that would mean those persecuted are Christians that are not only pesecuted but also be-headed. Which means there ARE Christians that do suffer Tribulations. OK then... who is spared the wrath of Tribulations and how? This bings us to the Rapture... Now we go deeper to who is the Rapture for? So, we arrive at those un-able to deny the Beast's Mark... Now by "deny" we must then draw a "line in the sand"... and where is that "line in the sand" and who has the right tto define its placement? I ... expect... that line in the sand to be for those who (for what ever reason ) could not deny it.
And so.. a Christian death row inamte unable to deny the mark could get raptured... (especially if he was innocent of the crime )
This is my speculation...
revturmoil
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I keep telling you that the mark will not be worldwide and only imposed upon people within the ten nation Islamic Empire of the beast!
The only... necessity of there being a 'rapture' is within the minds of those who seek to escape the coming tribulation because of fear.
The hard truth of the matter is that the congregations depending on being raptured to not have to go through the tribulation are NOT being prepared to make a stand for Christ during it. And our Heavenly Father gave a major rebuke against those pastors who fail to help His people make that stand in the final days. Ezekiel 13 is one of those places He gave that specific rebuke. Our Lord Jesus admonished us to "overcome" in these final days, not seek to escape. He even forewarned what would happen to those who sought to escape the tribulation vs. those who don't that prepare to make a stand for Him. It's in that same Luke 17 chapter we were talking about in another thread.
Veteran wrote: " The only... necessity of there being a 'rapture' is within the minds of those who seek to escape the coming tribulation because of fear.
Ok, so what happens o those in a coma, those in prison, those in a hospital with 20 wires connected to them, Downs children and anyone else without the where-with-all to prevent themself from receiving the Beast's Mark? They have no way to prepare, they have no defense. With the amount of numbers falling into the category of not being able to defend themself...:? Do you consider these people not worthy of salvation? Remember Lot an his family was spared
The hard truth of the matter is that the congregations depending on being raptured to not have to go through the tribulation are NOT being prepared to make a stand for Christ during it. And our Heavenly Father gave a major rebuke against those pastors who fail to help His people make that stand in the final days. Ezekiel 13 is one of those places He gave that specific rebuke. Our Lord Jesus admonished us to "overcome" in these final days, not seek to escape. He even forewarned what would happen to those who sought to escape the tribulation vs. those who don't that prepare to make a stand for Him. It's in that same Luke 17 chapter we were talking about in another thread. "
Most of this post I whole heartily agree with.
Ok, so what happens o those in a coma, those in prison, those in a hospital with 20 wires connected to them, Downs children and anyone else without the where-with-all to prevent themself from receiving the Beast's Mark? They have no way to prepare, they have no defense. With the amount of numbers falling into the category of not being able to defend themself...:? Do you consider these people not worthy of salvation? Remember Lot an his family was spared
The hard truth of the matter is that the congregations depending on being raptured to not have to go through the tribulation are NOT being prepared to make a stand for Christ during it. And our Heavenly Father gave a major rebuke against those pastors who fail to help His people make that stand in the final days. Ezekiel 13 is one of those places He gave that specific rebuke. Our Lord Jesus admonished us to "overcome" in these final days, not seek to escape. He even forewarned what would happen to those who sought to escape the tribulation vs. those who don't that prepare to make a stand for Him. It's in that same Luke 17 chapter we were talking about in another thread. "
Most of this post I whole heartily agree with.
We are all in God's hands, even them. I suspect when the time comes Satan's host on earth will have many of those killed during the coming tribulation, along with many saints and anyone that refuse to bow to him and take his mark. That does not mean those will never have a time to believe and be saved. You apparently forget, as many Jews do, that it's not our flesh that is saved. Don't forget what Christ's future Millennium reign is going to encompass.
Veteran wrote: " We are all in God's hands, even them. I suspect when the time comes Satan's host on earth will have many of those killed during the coming tribulation, along with many saints and anyone that refuse to bow to him and take his mark. That does not mean those will never have a time to believe and be saved. You apparently forget, as many Jews do, that it's not our flesh that is saved. Don't forget what Christ's future Millennium reign is going to encompass. "
You cannot say "many" for your idead to be correct... you must say "all" But why would Satan allow this to be done without fist marking them? Remember in ObamaCare a provision is mafr fore hospitals to install micro-chips.
You cannot say "many" for your idead to be correct... you must say "all" But why would Satan allow this to be done without fist marking them? Remember in ObamaCare a provision is mafr fore hospitals to install micro-chips.
revturmoil
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Is it your contention that the micro-chip program is not part of the ObamaCare plan? Understand We can go on the internet and enter what we consider trusted sites and end up receiving lies,,, both pro and con, for and against, one saying it is included and another saying it is not... AND all of these sites giving the vast pages of it which they edited for their purpose. I have noticed ithis in areas one would think should be un-biased. AND that is staggering.
News companies and government offices alike are skewing the information they spew to obtian the direction they desire.
News companies and government offices alike are skewing the information they spew to obtian the direction they desire.
The nations of the earth are under the manipulative influence of the "harlot", Babylon the Great, being "drunk with the wine of her fornication".(Rev 17:2) Being a global false religious empire, she has "a kingdom over the kings of the earth"(Rev 17:18), allowing her to sit on "peoples and crowds and nations and tongues."(Rev 17:15)
A "kingdom" that rules over other "kingdoms" is an empire. Babylon the Great places herself above earthly kings, exercising power and influence over them. She rides the symbolic "scarlet-colored wild beast" (Rev 17:3), which is also the "wild beast" that went into the "abyss" but then later comes out of it.(Rev 17:8)
Being that the "wild beast" at Revelation 13:1, 2 is the entire earthly political arrangement created by Satan (who is identified as the "dragon" at Rev 12:9) from the "sea" or the restless masses of mankind (Isa 57:20), the "scarlet-colored wild beast" is also a political composition. This "scarlet-colored wild beast" that the harlotrous "woman" is riding, becomes "is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction."(Rev 17:8)
What political organization was created, then disappeared for a while, then reappeared ? As World War I came to a close, president Woodrow Wilson of the United States and British prime minister, David Lloyd George proposed a League of Nations. This came into existence in 1920 with 42 original members. But with the start of World War II (on September 1, 1939), it became ' is not ', non-existent, but almost 6 years later, on June 26, 1945, it ' ascended out of the abyss ' as the United Nations, being resurrected, and now standing as "an eighth king".(Rev 17:11)
Being a false religious empire, she causes "all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!” (Rev 14:8) Hence, she teaches that which is false or untruths, such as immortality of the soul, the trinity, hellfire, Mary as "the mother of God", veneration of "saints".
And at Revelation 18:24, the word "all" is there, for the Greek word panton is used, meaning "any, every, all" (Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, G3956, as well Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, pg 491)
That is very... close to the Biblical prophecy about MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT...
In Carrol Quigley's 1960's work Tragedy and Hope, he revealed how the military generals wanted to make the final conventional battle step onto Japan's homeland to end its empire instead of using nuclear weapons. The powers above them rushed to use it, because what it did was to provide later support for all nations joining together in the United Nations idea, to end all wars.
At Revelation 17, an angel says to the apostle John: "Come, I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, whereas those who inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”(Rev 17:1, 2) This "harlot" is later given a name, a "mystery: "Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” (Rev 17:5)
Who is this mystic "Babylon the Great", that (1) "sits on many waters", (2) commits ' fornication with the kings of the earth', (3) has made ' those who inhabit the earth drunk with the wine of her fornication', (4) is "drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus" (Rev 17:6), (5) and is "sitting upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns" (Rev 17:3), (6) that has misled ' all the nations with her spiritistic practices' ?(Rev 18:23)
Revelation 17:18 says that Babylon the Great "has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.” Thus, she wields tremendous power and authority over even "the kings of the earth", greatly influencing how they use their authority, and forming political policy. Since this "harlot" is named "Babylon the Great", then ancient Babylon provides clues as to her identification.
At Jeremiah 50, it calls ancient Babylon "a land of graven images".(Jer 50:38) Isaiah 46:1 names two of its gods - Bel and Nebo. At Daniel 5:4, it says concerning Belshazzar and his "grandees", that "they drank wine, and they praised the gods of gold and of silver, copper, iron, wood and stone." Furthermore, some 70 years earlier, Belshazzar's grandfather, Nebuchadnezzar used divination concerning Jerusalem, for Ezekiel 21:21 says that "the king of Babylon stood still at the crossways, at the head of the two ways, in order to resort to divination. He has shaken the arrows. He has asked by means of the teraphim; he has looked into the liver."
In addition, archaeologists has unearthed the ruins of ancient Babylon, finding out that the fertility goddess Ishtar had at least 180 altars devoted to her alone, notwithstanding all the other gods. An ancient cunieform inscription was unearthed that revealed that there were in Babylon 53 temples of the chief gods, 55 chapels of Marduk, 300 chapels for the earthly deities, 600 for the heavenly deities, 180 altars for the goddess Ishtar, 180 for the gods Nergal and Adad and 12 other altars for different gods.(The Bible as History, W Keller, 1964, pg 301) Thus, ancient Babylon was extremely religious, and in which no decisions were made without looking to one of their gods.
The "harlot", Babylon the Great, "sits on many waters" or "peoples and crowds and nations and tongues"(Rev 17:15), as a "mother of the harlots" or individual religious denominations and sects over the earth, such as Catholicism, Protestantism, Buddhist, Shintoism, as one survey identified 19 major religious faiths and some 10,000 smaller religions worldwide.
She has ' committed fornication with the kings of the earth', having made intimate alliances with many of the nations on earth. For example, on July 20, 1933, the Catholic church made an alliance with Hitler, with Cardinal Pacelli (who later became Pope Pius XII) signing the Reichskonkordat or treaty between the Catholic church and Nazi Germany. This one step made it possible for Hitler to attain to world power and gave thrust to Hitler starting World War II.
In his book Satan in Top Hat (1941), Tibor Koeves writes of this, stating: “The Concordat was a great victory for Hitler. It gave him the first moral support he had received from the outer world, and this from the most exalted source.” The concordat required the Vatican to withdraw its support from Germany’s Catholic Center Party, thus sanctioning Hitler’s one-party “total state.”
Babylon the Great has made all the earth "drunk with the wine of her fornication."(Rev 17:2) A drunken person cannot reason rationally, but often makes illogical decisions, being influenced by alcohol. Likewise of those who are under the "harlot's" influence, these being "drunk" or under her control, closely following what she dictates in the form of false religion, promoting such false religious doctrines as the trinity, hellfire, immortality of the soul, worship of Mary and the "saints", having a clergy-laity distinction, calling the religious leaders by such titles as Holy Father, Father, abbott, priest, Reverend, Most Right Reverend, Monsignor (meaning "my Lord"), Eminence, Cardinal, Lord, etc.
This notorious "harlot" also is "drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus."(Rev 17:5) Jesus told the Jewish religious leaders that they were part of this global false religious empire, saying: "Serpents, offspring of vipers, how are you to flee from the judgment of Ge·hen´na? For this reason, here I am sending forth to you prophets and wise men and public instructors. Some of them you will kill and impale, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city; that there may come upon you all the righteous blood spilled on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zech·a·ri´ah son of Bar·a·chi´ah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar."(Matt 23:33-35)
Jesus placed responsibility for the deaths of all the righteous ones, from Abel to Zechariah, at their feet, and putting them as part of the "harlot", Babylon the Great, for "in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy ones and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”(Rev 18:24) Through her making all the nations "drunk" with her false religious teachings and practices, she has been found guilty of "all those who have been slaughtered on the earth." What monumental shedding of blood for which she will pay with her life, especially "the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus" !
She sits "upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns."(Rev 17:3) This "scarlet-colored wild beast" is a political institution that is granted "breath" or life by means of "another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon."(Rev 13:11)
The "wild beast" that looks like a "lamb", but speaks as a "dragon" is the Anglo-American dual world power. In 1920, America with the assistance of Britian, set up the League of Nations, that continued on until 1939, when it went defunct. Thus, Britain/America gave "breath" or life to it.(Rev 13:15) Hence, initially, the League of Nations is the "scarlet-colored wild beast", but it became ' as not' in 1939 with the outbreak of WWII, yet ascended "out of the abyss" in 1945 as the United Nations, that now has 194 members.
Why is the "scarlet-colored wild beast" noted by Jehovah God as "full of blasphemous names" ? Because, as Revelation 17: 8 further says, that "those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly" concerning this "image of the wild beast" (Rev 13:14), giving accolade upon accolade to it, praising it, with it replacing God's kingdom as the only hope for peace on earth in the eyes of the nations, including those who are part of Christendom.
Before the League of Nations came to reality, as early as December 18, 1918, the body now known as the National Council of the Churches of Christ in America adopted a declaration that declared in part: “Such a League is not a mere political expedient; it is rather the political expression of the Kingdom of God on earth. . . . The Church can give a spirit of good-will, without which no League of Nations can endure. . . . The League of Nations is rooted in the Gospel. Like the Gospel, its objective is ‘peace on earth, good-will toward men.’”
On January 2, 1919, the San Francisco Chronicle carried the front-page headline: “Pope Pleads for Adoption of Wilson’s League of Nations.” Thus, Babylon the Great has had great influence in the political arena, swaying political leaders in this or that direction.
By her "spiritistic practices" she continues to mislead "all the nations". However, in the last few years, there has been a change toward her, for many are turning against religion, with some seeing her corruption. Her "waters" or the "peoples and crowds" that are her support, are ' drying up '.(Rev 16:12)
This makes the way "for the kings from the rising of the sun", Jehovah God and his appointed king, Jesus Christ. In the near future, her destruction will be by the very "beast" she is riding, the United Nations, in which, at its behest, direct the "ten horns" or all the political governments on earth, to "hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire."(Rev 17:16)
This order to destroy the "harlot" does not originate with either "the scarlet-colored wild beast" or the "ten horns", but "God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished."(Rev 17:17)
Who is this mystic "Babylon the Great", that (1) "sits on many waters", (2) commits ' fornication with the kings of the earth', (3) has made ' those who inhabit the earth drunk with the wine of her fornication', (4) is "drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus" (Rev 17:6), (5) and is "sitting upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns" (Rev 17:3), (6) that has misled ' all the nations with her spiritistic practices' ?(Rev 18:23)
Revelation 17:18 says that Babylon the Great "has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.” Thus, she wields tremendous power and authority over even "the kings of the earth", greatly influencing how they use their authority, and forming political policy. Since this "harlot" is named "Babylon the Great", then ancient Babylon provides clues as to her identification.
At Jeremiah 50, it calls ancient Babylon "a land of graven images".(Jer 50:38) Isaiah 46:1 names two of its gods - Bel and Nebo. At Daniel 5:4, it says concerning Belshazzar and his "grandees", that "they drank wine, and they praised the gods of gold and of silver, copper, iron, wood and stone." Furthermore, some 70 years earlier, Belshazzar's grandfather, Nebuchadnezzar used divination concerning Jerusalem, for Ezekiel 21:21 says that "the king of Babylon stood still at the crossways, at the head of the two ways, in order to resort to divination. He has shaken the arrows. He has asked by means of the teraphim; he has looked into the liver."
In addition, archaeologists has unearthed the ruins of ancient Babylon, finding out that the fertility goddess Ishtar had at least 180 altars devoted to her alone, notwithstanding all the other gods. An ancient cunieform inscription was unearthed that revealed that there were in Babylon 53 temples of the chief gods, 55 chapels of Marduk, 300 chapels for the earthly deities, 600 for the heavenly deities, 180 altars for the goddess Ishtar, 180 for the gods Nergal and Adad and 12 other altars for different gods.(The Bible as History, W Keller, 1964, pg 301) Thus, ancient Babylon was extremely religious, and in which no decisions were made without looking to one of their gods.
The "harlot", Babylon the Great, "sits on many waters" or "peoples and crowds and nations and tongues"(Rev 17:15), as a "mother of the harlots" or individual religious denominations and sects over the earth, such as Catholicism, Protestantism, Buddhist, Shintoism, as one survey identified 19 major religious faiths and some 10,000 smaller religions worldwide.
She has ' committed fornication with the kings of the earth', having made intimate alliances with many of the nations on earth. For example, on July 20, 1933, the Catholic church made an alliance with Hitler, with Cardinal Pacelli (who later became Pope Pius XII) signing the Reichskonkordat or treaty between the Catholic church and Nazi Germany. This one step made it possible for Hitler to attain to world power and gave thrust to Hitler starting World War II.
In his book Satan in Top Hat (1941), Tibor Koeves writes of this, stating: “The Concordat was a great victory for Hitler. It gave him the first moral support he had received from the outer world, and this from the most exalted source.” The concordat required the Vatican to withdraw its support from Germany’s Catholic Center Party, thus sanctioning Hitler’s one-party “total state.”
Babylon the Great has made all the earth "drunk with the wine of her fornication."(Rev 17:2) A drunken person cannot reason rationally, but often makes illogical decisions, being influenced by alcohol. Likewise of those who are under the "harlot's" influence, these being "drunk" or under her control, closely following what she dictates in the form of false religion, promoting such false religious doctrines as the trinity, hellfire, immortality of the soul, worship of Mary and the "saints", having a clergy-laity distinction, calling the religious leaders by such titles as Holy Father, Father, abbott, priest, Reverend, Most Right Reverend, Monsignor (meaning "my Lord"), Eminence, Cardinal, Lord, etc.
This notorious "harlot" also is "drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus."(Rev 17:5) Jesus told the Jewish religious leaders that they were part of this global false religious empire, saying: "Serpents, offspring of vipers, how are you to flee from the judgment of Ge·hen´na? For this reason, here I am sending forth to you prophets and wise men and public instructors. Some of them you will kill and impale, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city; that there may come upon you all the righteous blood spilled on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zech·a·ri´ah son of Bar·a·chi´ah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar."(Matt 23:33-35)
Jesus placed responsibility for the deaths of all the righteous ones, from Abel to Zechariah, at their feet, and putting them as part of the "harlot", Babylon the Great, for "in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy ones and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”(Rev 18:24) Through her making all the nations "drunk" with her false religious teachings and practices, she has been found guilty of "all those who have been slaughtered on the earth." What monumental shedding of blood for which she will pay with her life, especially "the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus" !
She sits "upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns."(Rev 17:3) This "scarlet-colored wild beast" is a political institution that is granted "breath" or life by means of "another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon."(Rev 13:11)
The "wild beast" that looks like a "lamb", but speaks as a "dragon" is the Anglo-American dual world power. In 1920, America with the assistance of Britian, set up the League of Nations, that continued on until 1939, when it went defunct. Thus, Britain/America gave "breath" or life to it.(Rev 13:15) Hence, initially, the League of Nations is the "scarlet-colored wild beast", but it became ' as not' in 1939 with the outbreak of WWII, yet ascended "out of the abyss" in 1945 as the United Nations, that now has 194 members.
Why is the "scarlet-colored wild beast" noted by Jehovah God as "full of blasphemous names" ? Because, as Revelation 17: 8 further says, that "those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly" concerning this "image of the wild beast" (Rev 13:14), giving accolade upon accolade to it, praising it, with it replacing God's kingdom as the only hope for peace on earth in the eyes of the nations, including those who are part of Christendom.
Before the League of Nations came to reality, as early as December 18, 1918, the body now known as the National Council of the Churches of Christ in America adopted a declaration that declared in part: “Such a League is not a mere political expedient; it is rather the political expression of the Kingdom of God on earth. . . . The Church can give a spirit of good-will, without which no League of Nations can endure. . . . The League of Nations is rooted in the Gospel. Like the Gospel, its objective is ‘peace on earth, good-will toward men.’”
On January 2, 1919, the San Francisco Chronicle carried the front-page headline: “Pope Pleads for Adoption of Wilson’s League of Nations.” Thus, Babylon the Great has had great influence in the political arena, swaying political leaders in this or that direction.
By her "spiritistic practices" she continues to mislead "all the nations". However, in the last few years, there has been a change toward her, for many are turning against religion, with some seeing her corruption. Her "waters" or the "peoples and crowds" that are her support, are ' drying up '.(Rev 16:12)
This makes the way "for the kings from the rising of the sun", Jehovah God and his appointed king, Jesus Christ. In the near future, her destruction will be by the very "beast" she is riding, the United Nations, in which, at its behest, direct the "ten horns" or all the political governments on earth, to "hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire."(Rev 17:16)
This order to destroy the "harlot" does not originate with either "the scarlet-colored wild beast" or the "ten horns", but "God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished."(Rev 17:17)
Now you've gone totally... in the wrong direction.
The Babylon Harlot that is in control over all nations are those who love money, the internationalists who are attempting to bring all peoples and nations under their idea of a "one world government". It's religion is the worship of Lucifer. So comparisons of that to Christianity is completely out of the ball park.
When the coming pseudo-Christ arrives on the scene, proclaiming himself as God, working miracles and great signs, THAT is WHEN the actual working of the 'religious' aspect of the Babylon Harlot will manifest on earth. Until then, it is outwardly only as a political movement to engulf all nations and peoples under its power and influence. When the abomination is setup in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem with the false messiah, THAT is when the Rev.17 chapter is going to really apply.
Hi Trekson,
I too believe America is Babylon. Here is a list of scriptures a woman named Sherry Shriner compiled and put together. No other nation can fulfill these but one, America. You can read more at: http://www.thewatche...com/america.htm
In the last days the Bible talks about a dominant city that is a major center of commerce that will be destroyed in one hour. Mystery Babylon The Great. The churches will tell you it is referring to the Vatican in Rome. They are wrong.
The Lord showed me several years ago how this last days Babylon is America. I have also seen it in the Bible Codes how America is indeed this prophesied last days Babylon.
To hold the view that this Babylon is referring to the Vatican, you basically ignore 98% of the Scriptures referring to it and hold to one verse that can be easily discredited because a misunderstanding of one term in one verse that can easily be clarified. That is how warped the whole Vatican theory is that most churches and prophecy 'gurus' preach today when it comes to Revelation chapters 17 and 18. Why? Why do they want the focus on somewhere else instead of where the Bible is really speaking of?
Consider this: The former prophets all warned of this coming Great Babylon. Let's look at what each one said about it:
Isaiah said:
1. Babylon would be noted for its architecture, buildings and skyline (Isaiah 13:22)
2. Is the lone super power of the world (Isaiah 47:5,8)
3. Is the most respected and envied around the world and yet at the same time is hated by the world. (Isaiah 18:2)
4. Has a unique and remarkable beginning, different from other nations and has been awe-inspiring from it's conception. (Isaiah 18:2).
5. Babylon would the QUEEN AMONG THE NATIONS (Isa 47:5,7)
6. Babylon would be an END TIME GREAT NATION (Rev 17,18; Isa 13:6)
7. Babylon is called a lady, and has the symbol of the Lady (Isa 47:7-9). "LIBERTY" on our money, and sits in the New York Harbor.
8. Babylon is nation "peeled", or timbered, a land of open fields (Isa 18:2).
9. Babylon is land quartered by mighty rivers (Isa 18:2).
10. Babylon is a land that is measured out, and populated throughout (Isa 18:2).
11. Babylon destroys her own land, with pollution and waste (Isa 14:20, 18:2, 7).
12. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD
13. Babylon has a huge aviation program (Isa 14:13-14;
14. Babylon is a REPUBLIC or a DEMOCRACY, it is ruled by many counsels (Isa 47:13).
15. Babylon's governmental system breaks down (Isa 47:13).
16. Babylon is bogged down with deliberations and cannot govern properly (Isa 47:13).
17. Babylon's leaders use astrology, seers and mystics for guidance (Isa 47:13; Rev 18:2).
18. Babylon labored in the occult from her very inception (Isa 47:12).
19. Babylon is a nation of religious confusion (Isa 47:12-13).
20. THE KING OF BABYLON is called LUCIFER, the ANTICHRIST (Isa 14:4-6).
21. The King of Babylon will rule from THE GREAT CITY BABYLON (Isa 14:4-6; Rev 17: 18).
22. A world government entity will rise up to rule the world from BABYLON THE CITY
23. This entity will rise up and use the military power of Babylon the nation to RULE THE WORLD (Isa 14:4-6;
24.Babylon is a nation of higher education and learning (Isa47:10, implied throughout).
25. Babylon is a VIRGIN NATION, her lands untouched by major war (Isa 47:1).9. Babylon's enemy will lie on the opposite side of the world,over the poles (Isa 13:5)
26. The enemy of Babylon will be noted for her cruelty (Isa 13,14, Jer 50, 51, Rev 17, 18).
27. The people of Babylon would think they are God's elect and eternal (Isa 47:7-8,
28. The nation Babylon dwells carelessly before the Lord (Isa 47:8).
29. Babylon becomes proud, haughty, and does not consider her end (Isa 47:7-8).
30. Babylon deals in the occult, in sorceries and drugs (Isa 47:9, 12; Rev 18:23)
31. The people of Babylon are deep into astrology and spiritism (Isa 47:12; Rev 18:2).
32. Babylon's enemy will lie on the opposite side of the world,over the poles (Isa 13:5)
Jeremiah prophesied:
1. Babylon would be the center of a one world Luciferian religious movement (Jer 51:44)
2. Babylon would be the youngest and greatest of the end time nations (Jer 50:12). USA
3. Babylon would be the most powerful nation in the world (Isa 47, Jer 50, 51, Rev 18). USA
4. Babylon would be the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH (Jer 50:23; Rev 18:23). USA
5. Babylon would be the praise of the WHOLE EARTH (Jer 51:41). USA
6. Babylon is a land rich in mineral wealth (Jer 51:13).
7. Babylon is a the leading agricultural nation of the world (Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
8. Babylon is the leading exporting nation in the world (Jer 51:13; Rev 18).
9. Babylon is the leading importing nation of the entire world.(Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
10. Babylon is a nation filled with warehouses and granaries (Jer 50:26).
11. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
12. Babylon is noted for her horses (Jer 50:37). Think Kentucky
13. Babylon is noted for her cattle, sheep and other livestock (Jer 50:26, 27; Rev 18:13).
14. Babylon is noted for her fine flour and mill operations (Rev 18:13)
15. Babylon is a nation of farmers and harvests huge crops (Jer 50:16, 26, 27).28. Babylon has a huge aviation program (Isa 14:13-14; Jer 51:53; Hab 1:6-10).
16. Babylon's skies are filled with the whisper of aircraft wings (Isa 18:1; Jer 51:53).
17. Babylon has a huge space industry, has "mounted up to the heavens" (Jer 51:53).
18. Babylon fortifies her skies with a huge military aviation program (Jer 51:53).
19. Babylon is portrayed as a leading in high tech weapons and abilities (Jer 51:53; Hab 1:6-10; implied throughout).
20. Babylon is a coastal nation and sits upon MANY WATERS (Jer 51:13).
21. Babylon is nation filled with a "mingled" people (Jer 50:37).
22. Babylon is a SINGULAR NATION founded upon OUT OF MANY, ONE (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51, Hab 1).
23. Babylon was born as a CHRISTIAN NATION (Jer 50:12).
24. Babylon turns upon its heritage and destroys it all in the end (Jer 50:11).
25. Babylon's Christian leaders lead their flock astray in prophecy and salvation (Jer 50:6; implied Rev 18:2).
26. Babylon's Christian leaders are strangers in the Lord's Houses of Worship (Jer 51:51).
27. Babylon sets of detention centers for Jews and Christians and rounds them up for extermination (Jer 50:7, 33; 51:35, 49; Rev 17:6; 18:24).
28. Babylon has a mother nation that remains in existence from her birth to death (Jer 50: 12). (ENGLAND)
29. The mother of Babylon has the symbol of the LION (Dan7:4; Eze 38:13; Jer 51:38; Psalms 17:12).
30. The mother of Babylon will rule over her daughter her entire life (Dan 7:4; Jer 50:12). Follow the money, we are under total control of England's Banks, and have been since 1914
31. The mother of Babylon will be a state of major decline as the end nears (Jer 50:12).
32. Babylon is considered to be a lion's whelp (Eze 38:13; Jer 51:38).58.
33. Babylon will have the symbol of the EAGLE and builds her nest in the stars (Dan 7:4 EAGLE WINGS; Isa 14:13-14; Jer 51:53). Who else has a space program as we do?
34. Babylon is a huge producer and exporter of automobiles (Jer 50:37; Rev 18:13).
35. Babylon is a nation of CRAFTSMEN, experts in their trade (Jer 50, 51, Rev 18:22).
36. Babylon is a nation with a GREAT VOICE in world affairs (Jer 51:55)
37 .Babylon will be instrumental in the setting up of Israel in the Middle East, and is the home of God's people (Jer 50:47;51:45).
38. Babylon will have a major enemy to her north (Jer 50:3, 9, 41).
39. The enemy of Babylon will also have a huge aviation military machine (Jer 50:9, 14, Rev 18:8, 18 implied throughout).
40. Babylon will have all of her borders cut off, and there will be no way of escape (Jer 50:28; 51:32).
41. Babylon is land vast land with huge cities, towns and villages throughout (Implied throughout).
42. Babylon will have been a huge missionary nation for Jesus Christ (Jer 50:11; 51:7).
43. Babylon would be a home to multitudes of Jews who leave (Jer 50:4-6, 8; 51:6, 45)
44. The people of Babylon would not know their true identity(Jer 50:6, implied throughout).
45. The people of Babylon would grow mad upon their idols (Jer 50:2, 38; Hab 2:18).
46. How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations! -Jeremiah 50:23
47. O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness. The LORD of hosts hath sworn by himself, saying, Surely I will fill thee with men, as with caterpillars; and they shall lift up a shout against thee. -Jeremiah 51:12-14
48. Plays a leadership role in Outer Space Exploration (Jer. 51:3)
49. Is where the world's leaders meet and assemble (Jer. 51:44)
50. Incorporated many aspects of the old Babylonian religion (Jer. 50:2).
The Apostle John said in the Book of Revelation:
1. Babylon deals in the occult, in sorceries and drugs (Isa 47:9, 12; Rev 18:23)
2. The people of Babylon would go into deep sins of all kinds (Rev 18:5).
3. The people of Babylon would think they are God's elect and eternal (Isa 47:7-8, Rev 18:7).
4. The people of Babylon would enjoy the highest standard of living in the world (Rev 18:7).
5. Babylon will be destroyed by nuclear fire (Implied throughout)
6. Babylon is land vast land with huge cities, towns and villages throughout (Implied throughout).
7. The enemy of Babylon will be noted for her cruelty (Isa 13,14, Jer 50, 51, Rev 17, 18).
8. The enemy of Babylon will also have a huge aviation military machine (Jer 50:9, 14, Rev 18:8, 18 implied throughout).
9. Babylon has a vast military machine (Jer 50:36; 51:30; Hab 1 & 2, Rev 13:4).
10. This entity will rise up and use the military power of Babylon the nation to RULE THE WORLD (Isa 14:4-6; Hab 1 & 2, Rev 13, 17).
11. Babylon is a huge producer and exporter of automobiles (Jer 50:37; Rev 18:13).
12. Babylon is a nation of CRAFTSMEN, experts in their trade (Jer 50, 51, Rev 18:22).
13. Babylon is noted for her jewelry of gold and silver (Rev 18:22).
14. Babylon is a huge importer and exporter of spices (Rev 18:13).
15. Babylon is a huge exporter of fine marble products (Rev 18:22).
16. Babylon is noted for her iron and steel production (Rev 18:12).
17. Babylon has huge corporations that have bases around the world (Rev 18:23, implied throughout)
18. A world government entity will rise up to rule the world from BABYLON THE CITY (Isa 14; Hab 2, Rev 13, 17, 18).
19. Babylon turns totally antichrist and is the leading antichrist power at the end (Rev 18:2; Isa 14:4-6).
20. The King of Babylon will rule from THE GREAT CITY BABYLON (Isa 14:4-6; Rev 17: 18).
21. Babylon turns upon its own people and imprisons and slays them by millions (Jer 50:7,33; 51:35; 39; Dan 7:25; Rev 13:7;17:6; 18:24).
22. Babylon sets of detention centers for Jews and Christians and rounds them up for extermination (Jer 50:7, 33; 51:35, 49; Rev 17:6; 18:24).
23. The people of Babylon are deep into astrology and spiritism (Isa 47:12; Rev 18:2).
24. Babylon becomes the home of all antichrist religions in the world (Rev 18:2).
25. Babylon's Christian leaders lead their flock astray in prophecy and salvation (Jer 50:6; implied Rev 18:2).
26. Babylon falls to the occult just before her end by nuclear fire (Rev 18:2)
27. Babylon's leaders use astrology, seers and mystics for guidance (Isa 47:13; Rev 18:2).
28. Babylon trades with all who have ships in the sea year round(Rev 18:17-18).
29. Babylon is a nation filled with warm water seaports (Rev 18:17-19).
30. Babylon is a huge exporter of MUSIC (Rev 18:22).
31. Babylon's musicians are known around the world (Rev 18:22)
32. Babylon is noted for her cattle, sheep and other livestock (Jer 50:26, 27; Rev 18:13).
33. Babylon is noted for her fine flour and mill operations (Rev 18:13)
34. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
35. Babylon is a the leading agricultural nation of the world (Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
36. Babylon is the leading exporting nation in the world (Jer 51:13; Rev 18).
37. Babylon is the leading importing nation of the entire world.(Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
38. Babylon is center of world trade (Jer 51:44; Rev 17:18; 18:19).USA
39. Babylon would grow to be the richest nation in the world (Rev 18:3, 7, 19, 23). USA
40. All nations that traded with Babylon would grow rich (Rev 18:3). USA
41. The merchants of Babylon were the GREAT MEN OF THE EARTH (Rev 18:23). USA, all one need to do is look at the huge multi-national corporations that exist. American companies (merchants) the greatest on Earth.
42. Babylon would the QUEEN AMONG THE NATIONS (Isa 47:5,7; Rev 18:7). USA
43. Babylon would be the most powerful nation in the world (Isa 47, Jer 50, 51, Rev 18). USA
44. Babylon would be the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH (Jer 50:23; Rev 18:23). USA
45. Babylon would be the center for the move to a global economic order (Rev 13:16).
46. The Great City Babylon would be the economic nerve center of the world (Rev 18:3). New York is the Financial Capital of the World.
47. Babylon would be an END TIME GREAT NATION (Rev 17,18; Isa 13:6).
48. Babylon would have a huge seaport city within its borders (Rev 18:17). New York harbor is the biggest in theWorld.
49. The Great City Babylon is the home of a world government attempt (Rev 17:18). This can only be NEW YORK, where the United Nations sits.
50. Is considered intoxicating for it's high society lifestyle (Rev. 17:2, 18:3,23)
51. Is noted for its elegant and extravagant lifestyle (Rev. 18:14).
52. Is noted for being a city/nation of immigrants from all over the world (Rev. 18:15).
53. Is noted for a massive population (Rev. 18:15).
54. Is noted for its importation of drugs (Rev. 18:23).
55.Is the leading center of Commerce (Rev. 17:2)
56. Is the leading center of imports and consumption (Rev. 18:11)
57.Is a leading center of manufacturing (Rev. 18:22)
58. Is the center for world trade in gold, silver, copper, oil, precious gems, cloth, clothing, fashions, lumber, containers, household items, furniture, wine, livestock, transportation, health products, cosmetics, spices, marble, irony, and iron. (Rev. 18:11-13)
I too believe America is Babylon. Here is a list of scriptures a woman named Sherry Shriner compiled and put together. No other nation can fulfill these but one, America. You can read more at: http://www.thewatche...com/america.htm
In the last days the Bible talks about a dominant city that is a major center of commerce that will be destroyed in one hour. Mystery Babylon The Great. The churches will tell you it is referring to the Vatican in Rome. They are wrong.
The Lord showed me several years ago how this last days Babylon is America. I have also seen it in the Bible Codes how America is indeed this prophesied last days Babylon.
To hold the view that this Babylon is referring to the Vatican, you basically ignore 98% of the Scriptures referring to it and hold to one verse that can be easily discredited because a misunderstanding of one term in one verse that can easily be clarified. That is how warped the whole Vatican theory is that most churches and prophecy 'gurus' preach today when it comes to Revelation chapters 17 and 18. Why? Why do they want the focus on somewhere else instead of where the Bible is really speaking of?
Consider this: The former prophets all warned of this coming Great Babylon. Let's look at what each one said about it:
Isaiah said:
1. Babylon would be noted for its architecture, buildings and skyline (Isaiah 13:22)
2. Is the lone super power of the world (Isaiah 47:5,8)
3. Is the most respected and envied around the world and yet at the same time is hated by the world. (Isaiah 18:2)
4. Has a unique and remarkable beginning, different from other nations and has been awe-inspiring from it's conception. (Isaiah 18:2).
5. Babylon would the QUEEN AMONG THE NATIONS (Isa 47:5,7)
6. Babylon would be an END TIME GREAT NATION (Rev 17,18; Isa 13:6)
7. Babylon is called a lady, and has the symbol of the Lady (Isa 47:7-9). "LIBERTY" on our money, and sits in the New York Harbor.
8. Babylon is nation "peeled", or timbered, a land of open fields (Isa 18:2).
9. Babylon is land quartered by mighty rivers (Isa 18:2).
10. Babylon is a land that is measured out, and populated throughout (Isa 18:2).
11. Babylon destroys her own land, with pollution and waste (Isa 14:20, 18:2, 7).
12. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD
13. Babylon has a huge aviation program (Isa 14:13-14;
14. Babylon is a REPUBLIC or a DEMOCRACY, it is ruled by many counsels (Isa 47:13).
15. Babylon's governmental system breaks down (Isa 47:13).
16. Babylon is bogged down with deliberations and cannot govern properly (Isa 47:13).
17. Babylon's leaders use astrology, seers and mystics for guidance (Isa 47:13; Rev 18:2).
18. Babylon labored in the occult from her very inception (Isa 47:12).
19. Babylon is a nation of religious confusion (Isa 47:12-13).
20. THE KING OF BABYLON is called LUCIFER, the ANTICHRIST (Isa 14:4-6).
21. The King of Babylon will rule from THE GREAT CITY BABYLON (Isa 14:4-6; Rev 17: 18).
22. A world government entity will rise up to rule the world from BABYLON THE CITY
23. This entity will rise up and use the military power of Babylon the nation to RULE THE WORLD (Isa 14:4-6;
24.Babylon is a nation of higher education and learning (Isa47:10, implied throughout).
25. Babylon is a VIRGIN NATION, her lands untouched by major war (Isa 47:1).9. Babylon's enemy will lie on the opposite side of the world,over the poles (Isa 13:5)
26. The enemy of Babylon will be noted for her cruelty (Isa 13,14, Jer 50, 51, Rev 17, 18).
27. The people of Babylon would think they are God's elect and eternal (Isa 47:7-8,
28. The nation Babylon dwells carelessly before the Lord (Isa 47:8).
29. Babylon becomes proud, haughty, and does not consider her end (Isa 47:7-8).
30. Babylon deals in the occult, in sorceries and drugs (Isa 47:9, 12; Rev 18:23)
31. The people of Babylon are deep into astrology and spiritism (Isa 47:12; Rev 18:2).
32. Babylon's enemy will lie on the opposite side of the world,over the poles (Isa 13:5)
Jeremiah prophesied:
1. Babylon would be the center of a one world Luciferian religious movement (Jer 51:44)
2. Babylon would be the youngest and greatest of the end time nations (Jer 50:12). USA
3. Babylon would be the most powerful nation in the world (Isa 47, Jer 50, 51, Rev 18). USA
4. Babylon would be the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH (Jer 50:23; Rev 18:23). USA
5. Babylon would be the praise of the WHOLE EARTH (Jer 51:41). USA
6. Babylon is a land rich in mineral wealth (Jer 51:13).
7. Babylon is a the leading agricultural nation of the world (Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
8. Babylon is the leading exporting nation in the world (Jer 51:13; Rev 18).
9. Babylon is the leading importing nation of the entire world.(Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
10. Babylon is a nation filled with warehouses and granaries (Jer 50:26).
11. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
12. Babylon is noted for her horses (Jer 50:37). Think Kentucky
13. Babylon is noted for her cattle, sheep and other livestock (Jer 50:26, 27; Rev 18:13).
14. Babylon is noted for her fine flour and mill operations (Rev 18:13)
15. Babylon is a nation of farmers and harvests huge crops (Jer 50:16, 26, 27).28. Babylon has a huge aviation program (Isa 14:13-14; Jer 51:53; Hab 1:6-10).
16. Babylon's skies are filled with the whisper of aircraft wings (Isa 18:1; Jer 51:53).
17. Babylon has a huge space industry, has "mounted up to the heavens" (Jer 51:53).
18. Babylon fortifies her skies with a huge military aviation program (Jer 51:53).
19. Babylon is portrayed as a leading in high tech weapons and abilities (Jer 51:53; Hab 1:6-10; implied throughout).
20. Babylon is a coastal nation and sits upon MANY WATERS (Jer 51:13).
21. Babylon is nation filled with a "mingled" people (Jer 50:37).
22. Babylon is a SINGULAR NATION founded upon OUT OF MANY, ONE (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51, Hab 1).
23. Babylon was born as a CHRISTIAN NATION (Jer 50:12).
24. Babylon turns upon its heritage and destroys it all in the end (Jer 50:11).
25. Babylon's Christian leaders lead their flock astray in prophecy and salvation (Jer 50:6; implied Rev 18:2).
26. Babylon's Christian leaders are strangers in the Lord's Houses of Worship (Jer 51:51).
27. Babylon sets of detention centers for Jews and Christians and rounds them up for extermination (Jer 50:7, 33; 51:35, 49; Rev 17:6; 18:24).
28. Babylon has a mother nation that remains in existence from her birth to death (Jer 50: 12). (ENGLAND)
29. The mother of Babylon has the symbol of the LION (Dan7:4; Eze 38:13; Jer 51:38; Psalms 17:12).
30. The mother of Babylon will rule over her daughter her entire life (Dan 7:4; Jer 50:12). Follow the money, we are under total control of England's Banks, and have been since 1914
31. The mother of Babylon will be a state of major decline as the end nears (Jer 50:12).
32. Babylon is considered to be a lion's whelp (Eze 38:13; Jer 51:38).58.
33. Babylon will have the symbol of the EAGLE and builds her nest in the stars (Dan 7:4 EAGLE WINGS; Isa 14:13-14; Jer 51:53). Who else has a space program as we do?
34. Babylon is a huge producer and exporter of automobiles (Jer 50:37; Rev 18:13).
35. Babylon is a nation of CRAFTSMEN, experts in their trade (Jer 50, 51, Rev 18:22).
36. Babylon is a nation with a GREAT VOICE in world affairs (Jer 51:55)
37 .Babylon will be instrumental in the setting up of Israel in the Middle East, and is the home of God's people (Jer 50:47;51:45).
38. Babylon will have a major enemy to her north (Jer 50:3, 9, 41).
39. The enemy of Babylon will also have a huge aviation military machine (Jer 50:9, 14, Rev 18:8, 18 implied throughout).
40. Babylon will have all of her borders cut off, and there will be no way of escape (Jer 50:28; 51:32).
41. Babylon is land vast land with huge cities, towns and villages throughout (Implied throughout).
42. Babylon will have been a huge missionary nation for Jesus Christ (Jer 50:11; 51:7).
43. Babylon would be a home to multitudes of Jews who leave (Jer 50:4-6, 8; 51:6, 45)
44. The people of Babylon would not know their true identity(Jer 50:6, implied throughout).
45. The people of Babylon would grow mad upon their idols (Jer 50:2, 38; Hab 2:18).
46. How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations! -Jeremiah 50:23
47. O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness. The LORD of hosts hath sworn by himself, saying, Surely I will fill thee with men, as with caterpillars; and they shall lift up a shout against thee. -Jeremiah 51:12-14
48. Plays a leadership role in Outer Space Exploration (Jer. 51:3)
49. Is where the world's leaders meet and assemble (Jer. 51:44)
50. Incorporated many aspects of the old Babylonian religion (Jer. 50:2).
The Apostle John said in the Book of Revelation:
1. Babylon deals in the occult, in sorceries and drugs (Isa 47:9, 12; Rev 18:23)
2. The people of Babylon would go into deep sins of all kinds (Rev 18:5).
3. The people of Babylon would think they are God's elect and eternal (Isa 47:7-8, Rev 18:7).
4. The people of Babylon would enjoy the highest standard of living in the world (Rev 18:7).
5. Babylon will be destroyed by nuclear fire (Implied throughout)
6. Babylon is land vast land with huge cities, towns and villages throughout (Implied throughout).
7. The enemy of Babylon will be noted for her cruelty (Isa 13,14, Jer 50, 51, Rev 17, 18).
8. The enemy of Babylon will also have a huge aviation military machine (Jer 50:9, 14, Rev 18:8, 18 implied throughout).
9. Babylon has a vast military machine (Jer 50:36; 51:30; Hab 1 & 2, Rev 13:4).
10. This entity will rise up and use the military power of Babylon the nation to RULE THE WORLD (Isa 14:4-6; Hab 1 & 2, Rev 13, 17).
11. Babylon is a huge producer and exporter of automobiles (Jer 50:37; Rev 18:13).
12. Babylon is a nation of CRAFTSMEN, experts in their trade (Jer 50, 51, Rev 18:22).
13. Babylon is noted for her jewelry of gold and silver (Rev 18:22).
14. Babylon is a huge importer and exporter of spices (Rev 18:13).
15. Babylon is a huge exporter of fine marble products (Rev 18:22).
16. Babylon is noted for her iron and steel production (Rev 18:12).
17. Babylon has huge corporations that have bases around the world (Rev 18:23, implied throughout)
18. A world government entity will rise up to rule the world from BABYLON THE CITY (Isa 14; Hab 2, Rev 13, 17, 18).
19. Babylon turns totally antichrist and is the leading antichrist power at the end (Rev 18:2; Isa 14:4-6).
20. The King of Babylon will rule from THE GREAT CITY BABYLON (Isa 14:4-6; Rev 17: 18).
21. Babylon turns upon its own people and imprisons and slays them by millions (Jer 50:7,33; 51:35; 39; Dan 7:25; Rev 13:7;17:6; 18:24).
22. Babylon sets of detention centers for Jews and Christians and rounds them up for extermination (Jer 50:7, 33; 51:35, 49; Rev 17:6; 18:24).
23. The people of Babylon are deep into astrology and spiritism (Isa 47:12; Rev 18:2).
24. Babylon becomes the home of all antichrist religions in the world (Rev 18:2).
25. Babylon's Christian leaders lead their flock astray in prophecy and salvation (Jer 50:6; implied Rev 18:2).
26. Babylon falls to the occult just before her end by nuclear fire (Rev 18:2)
27. Babylon's leaders use astrology, seers and mystics for guidance (Isa 47:13; Rev 18:2).
28. Babylon trades with all who have ships in the sea year round(Rev 18:17-18).
29. Babylon is a nation filled with warm water seaports (Rev 18:17-19).
30. Babylon is a huge exporter of MUSIC (Rev 18:22).
31. Babylon's musicians are known around the world (Rev 18:22)
32. Babylon is noted for her cattle, sheep and other livestock (Jer 50:26, 27; Rev 18:13).
33. Babylon is noted for her fine flour and mill operations (Rev 18:13)
34. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
35. Babylon is a the leading agricultural nation of the world (Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
36. Babylon is the leading exporting nation in the world (Jer 51:13; Rev 18).
37. Babylon is the leading importing nation of the entire world.(Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
38. Babylon is center of world trade (Jer 51:44; Rev 17:18; 18:19).USA
39. Babylon would grow to be the richest nation in the world (Rev 18:3, 7, 19, 23). USA
40. All nations that traded with Babylon would grow rich (Rev 18:3). USA
41. The merchants of Babylon were the GREAT MEN OF THE EARTH (Rev 18:23). USA, all one need to do is look at the huge multi-national corporations that exist. American companies (merchants) the greatest on Earth.
42. Babylon would the QUEEN AMONG THE NATIONS (Isa 47:5,7; Rev 18:7). USA
43. Babylon would be the most powerful nation in the world (Isa 47, Jer 50, 51, Rev 18). USA
44. Babylon would be the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH (Jer 50:23; Rev 18:23). USA
45. Babylon would be the center for the move to a global economic order (Rev 13:16).
46. The Great City Babylon would be the economic nerve center of the world (Rev 18:3). New York is the Financial Capital of the World.
47. Babylon would be an END TIME GREAT NATION (Rev 17,18; Isa 13:6).
48. Babylon would have a huge seaport city within its borders (Rev 18:17). New York harbor is the biggest in theWorld.
49. The Great City Babylon is the home of a world government attempt (Rev 17:18). This can only be NEW YORK, where the United Nations sits.
50. Is considered intoxicating for it's high society lifestyle (Rev. 17:2, 18:3,23)
51. Is noted for its elegant and extravagant lifestyle (Rev. 18:14).
52. Is noted for being a city/nation of immigrants from all over the world (Rev. 18:15).
53. Is noted for a massive population (Rev. 18:15).
54. Is noted for its importation of drugs (Rev. 18:23).
55.Is the leading center of Commerce (Rev. 17:2)
56. Is the leading center of imports and consumption (Rev. 18:11)
57.Is a leading center of manufacturing (Rev. 18:22)
58. Is the center for world trade in gold, silver, copper, oil, precious gems, cloth, clothing, fashions, lumber, containers, household items, furniture, wine, livestock, transportation, health products, cosmetics, spices, marble, irony, and iron. (Rev. 18:11-13)
Sherry Shriner is completely submitted to Satan. However, I will say she undertook a much needed task in order to compile that list. No one but America fits this description.
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