Israel is the focus of the millennium

Shalom, all.

This is the result of confusing "salvation" in the prophecies with the concept of "justification by God." Sorry, but they are NOT synonymous. "Salvation" purely means "rescue" or "deliverance" and in the prophecies is used to describe the future "rescue" or "deliverance" of the nation of Isra'el as a PEOPLE, not as individuals. These verses (such as Isaiah 52:7) are not talking about a personal "justification by God!" Look carefully at Isaiah 52:7:

Isaiah 52:7
How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings,
that publisheth peace;
that bringeth good tidings of good,
that publisheth salvation (rescue);
that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
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This should be enough of its context to give you an understanding that this verse is not talking about personal "justification by God!" There's a beautiful word picture here that is somewhat lost in translation without an understanding of the culture during the reign of David's dynasty. However, one can pick up on this by the narrative in 2 Samuel 18:

2 Samuel 18:1-33
1 And David numbered the people that were with him, and set captains of thousands and captains of hundreds over them.
2 And David sent forth a third part of the people under the hand of Joab, and a third part under the hand of Abishai the son of Zeruiah (David's sister), Joab's brother, and a third part under the hand of Ittai the Gittite. And the king said unto the people, I will surely go forth with you myself also.
3 But the people answered, Thou shalt not go forth: for if we flee away, they will not care for us; neither if half of us die, will they care for us: but now thou art worth ten thousand of us: therefore now it is better that thou succour us out of the city.
4 And the king said unto them, What seemeth you best I will do. And the king stood by the gate side, and all the people came out by hundreds and by thousands.
5 And the king commanded Joab and Abishai and Ittai, saying, Deal gently for my sake with the young man, even with Absalom. And all the people heard when the king gave all the captains charge concerning Absalom.
6 So the people went out into the field against Israel: and the battle was in the wood of Ephraim;
7 Where the people of Israel were slain before the servants of David, and there was there a great slaughter that day of twenty thousand men.
8 For the battle was there scattered over the face of all the country: and the wood devoured more people that day than the sword devoured.
9 And Absalom met the servants of David. And Absalom rode upon a mule, and the mule went under the thick boughs of a great oak, and his head caught hold of the oak, and he was taken up between the heaven and the earth; and the mule that was under him went away.
10 And a certain man saw it, and told Joab, and said, Behold, I saw Absalom hanged in an oak.
11 And Joab said unto the man that told him, And, behold, thou sawest him, and why didst thou not smite him there to the ground? and I would have given thee ten shekels of silver, and a girdle (a cloth belt, possibly of honor or rank).
12 And the man said unto Joab, Though I should receive a thousand shekels of silver in mine hand, yet would I not put forth mine hand against the king's son: for in our hearing the king charged thee and Abishai and Ittai, saying, Beware that none touch the young man Absalom.
13 Otherwise I should have wrought falsehood against mine own life: for there is no matter hid from the king, and thou thyself wouldest have set thyself against me.
14 Then said Joab, I may not tarry thus with thee. And he took three darts in his hand, and thrust them through the heart of Absalom, while he was yet alive in the midst of the oak.
15 And ten young men that bare Joab's armour compassed about and smote Absalom, and slew him.
16 And Joab blew the trumpet, and the people returned from pursuing after Israel: for Joab held back the people.
17 And they took Absalom, and cast him into a great pit in the wood, and laid a very great heap of stones upon him: and all Israel fled every one to his tent.
18 Now Absalom in his lifetime had taken and reared up for himself a pillar, which is in the king's dale: for he said, I have no son to keep my name in remembrance: and he called the pillar after his own name: and it is called unto this day, Absalom's place.
19 Then said Ahimaaz the son of Zadok, Let me now run, and bear the king tidings, how that the Lord hath avenged him of his enemies.
20 And Joab said unto him, Thou shalt not bear tidings this day, but thou shalt bear tidings another day: but this day thou shalt bear no tidings, because the king's son is dead.
21 Then said Joab to Cushi, Go tell the king what thou hast seen. And Cushi bowed himself unto Joab, and ran.
22 Then said Ahimaaz the son of Zadok yet again to Joab, But howsoever, let me, I pray thee, also run after Cushi. And Joab said, Wherefore wilt thou run, my son, seeing that thou hast no tidings ready?
23 But howsoever, said he, let me run. And he said unto him, Run. Then Ahimaaz ran by the way of the plain, and overran Cushi.
24 And David sat between the two gates: and the watchman went up to the roof over the gate unto the wall, and lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold a man running alone.
25 And the watchman cried, and told the king. And the king said, If he be alone, there is tidings in his mouth. And he came apace, and drew near.
26 And the watchman saw another man running: and the watchman called unto the porter, and said, Behold another man running alone. And the king said, He also bringeth tidings.
27 And the watchman said, Me thinketh the running of the foremost is like the running of Ahimaaz the son of Zadok. And the king said, He is a good man, and cometh with good tidings.
28 And Ahimaaz called, and said unto the king, All is well. And he fell down to the earth upon his face before the king, and said, Blessed be the Lord thy God, which hath delivered up the men that lifted up their hand against my lord the king.
29 And the king said, Is the young man Absalom safe? And Ahimaaz answered, When Joab sent the king's servant, and me thy servant, I saw a great tumult, but I knew not what it was.
30 And the king said unto him, Turn aside, and stand here. And he turned aside, and stood still.
31 And, behold, Cushi came; and Cushi said, Tidings, my lord the king: for the Lord hath avenged thee this day of all them that rose up against thee.
32 And the king said unto Cushi, Is the young man Absalom safe? And Cushi answered, The enemies of my lord the king, and all that rise against thee to do thee hurt, be as that young man is.
33 And the king was much moved, and went up to the chamber over the gate, and wept: and as he went, thus he said, O my son Absalom, my son, my son Absalom! would God I had died for thee, O Absalom, my son, my son!
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So, Achiyma`ats (Ahimaaz) was a messenger of good news and was a fast runner but Kuwshiy (Cushi), an older man with more tact, was a bearer of bad news and was not as fast a runner as Achiyma`ats. In times of good news, a messenger swift of foot was sent to tell the good news to the king and to the people. In times of bad news, a messenger with a different gait was sent. This is the picture that Yesha`yahu (Isaiah) presented in Isaiah 52:7. A bearer of good news is running along the ridge of the mountains with the good news that rescue has come and God is now reigning!

Sorry, Trekson, but that is NOT about the time after the Captivity to Bavel (Babylon) or Persia. Yesha`yahu is talking about the future restoration of Isra'el.

And, Terry, again this is NOT about personal justification by God! This is about the RESCUE of the Jews! Thus, Yeshua`, the Messiah of God, WILL rescue them when they need Him most! The battle at Har-Meggidown (Armageddon), the Mountain (or Tel) of Megiddo, is where this battle will end! Tel-Megiddo is a few miles southeast of Haifa in Isra'el. The invaders, routed from Yerushalayim and chased over the mountains of Isra'el and from whom the Jews are rescued, will think to take their stand against Him and His army (us) in the Valley of Yizr'a`el (Jezreel) east of Haifa. It is there that the blood will flow to the horses' bridles! I can guarantee you that, whether they believed in Yeshua` as their Messiah or not, THAT DAY they WILL believe! Seeing is believing! They will see the HERO of the prophecies with their own eyes!

John_8:32, you are correct to quote the rest of this passage for Trekson's sake; however, when you said,...




... you forgot about how water behaves and fluid dynamics. Being an engineer,

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Ah, a brother in arms, ME here. Reducing everything to numbers is the curse we must live with.

I can tell you that the force of the water's flow and the terrain can make the difference in how the waters pool. It doesn't have to be a miracle (although it could be). We aren't told how fast the water is flowing at its source or downstream. We know that it is flowing in the general direction of east toward the Dead Sea (which will have to be renamed), but we don't know how it will meander around the mountains and hills along the way. Obstructions can cause the waters to slow and pool at various locations before it makes its way to the sea.

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Yes, but if one reads carefully...

Eze 47:3 And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the waters were to the ankles.

The depth to the ankles, and finally...

Eze 47:5 Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over.

Typically, a river is the sum of the streams feeding it, minus evaporation and absorption, in this case the waters are much deeper and still flowing to the Dead Sea. Actually, this is the river that flows in...

Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

It begins flowing at the beginning of the Millenium and continues through the GWTJ and onward. It is at once a reality and a metaphor. The metaphorical aspect is this...

Joh 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Joh 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

On the Last Great Day...

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

When the vast majority of mankind will have their opportunity to choose life (salvation), the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of life) will be available to all. It is not so today...

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

Only those whom the Father calls in this day and that is not everyone...

Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

But during the GWTJ...

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Could there be a reason why God's Temple wasn't built to His specs? Consider this:

This, explain the commentators, is the reason why they did not build the second Temple according to the specifications in the prophecy in Ezekiel. That Temple was to be an everlasting edifice, as the verse there states, “and I shall dwell among them forever.” Instead, when it came time to rebuild the second Temple, G‑d commanded through his prophets Chaggai, Zechariah and Malachi not to build it according to the specifications in Ezekiel.

Indeed, when the Rabbis referred to the second Temple period, they would say it was a partial redemption only. For not only were the Jews still under foreign rule, but the second Temple also lacked some key components—including the Holy Ark.
However, even though the second Temple did not have the everlasting quality of the Temple of Ezekiel’s prophecy, the builders did incorporate certain parts of the prophecy into its construction.

In commanding Ezekiel to describe the dimensions of the Temple to the Jewish people, G‑d says,

You, son of man, describe the House to the House of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities; let them measure its plan. And if they are ashamed of all that they have done, let them know the form of the House and its scheme, its exits and its entrances, and all its forms, and all its laws and all its teachings, and write it down in their sight so that they keep the whole form thereof and the laws thereof, and do them.

So we find that the specs given in Ez. 40-46 were for the second temple however God told them not to build to those specs for a reason, probably their lack of national repentance. Could at some point a third millennial temple be built to these specs? Absolutely, however this does explain the animal sacrifices and sin offerings described there as being for the second temple as they will have no place in the millennium.


John, I find it always problematic to create metaphors to describe a literal thing.

Could there be a reason why God's Temple wasn't built to His specs? Consider this:

This, explain the commentators, is the reason why they did not build the second Temple according to the specifications in the prophecy in Ezekiel. That Temple was to be an everlasting edifice, as the verse there states, “and I shall dwell among them forever.” Instead, when it came time to rebuild the second Temple, G‑d commanded through his prophets Chaggai, Zechariah and Malachi not to build it according to the specifications in Ezekiel.

Indeed, when the Rabbis referred to the second Temple period, they would say it was a partial redemption only. For not only were the Jews still under foreign rule, but the second Temple also lacked some key components—including the Holy Ark.
However, even though the second Temple did not have the everlasting quality of the Temple of Ezekiel’s prophecy, the builders did incorporate certain parts of the prophecy into its construction.

In commanding Ezekiel to describe the dimensions of the Temple to the Jewish people, G‑d says,
So we find that the specs given in Ez. 40-46 were for the second temple however God told them not to build to those specs for a reason, probably their lack of national repentance. Could at some point a third millennial temple be built to these specs? Absolutely, however this does explain the animal sacrifices and sin offerings described there as being for the second temple as they will have no place in the millennium.


John, I find it always problematic to create metaphors to describe a literal thing.

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But Trekson, my friend, there are some things that require metaphors...

Gen 4:10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

Did Abel's blood actually cry out? Nope, this was a metaphor.

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Would a literal chain really bind a spirit being? Nope, this is a metaphor.

Some things are taught by metaphor.

Shalom again, Trekson.

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Hmmm, Could Israel disobey God in the design of their temple? It's possible, however do you have the specs for the second temple for comparison purposes?

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These are not just specs for what they were supposed to build; this is a PROPHECY of what they WILL build! Furthermore, I don't personally have the second Temple's specs, but Isra'el does, through archaeological evidence, their own landmarks, and the archives they themselves possess and have been using for their models in designing a third Temple (which is currently being built off-site to be erected quickly, should the opportunity present itself). The model that is on display in Yerushalayim is built to scale from this evidence.

Trekson said:

Could there be a reason why God's Temple wasn't built to His specs? Consider this:

This, explain the commentators, is the reason why they did not build the second Temple according to the specifications in the prophecy in Ezekiel. That Temple was to be an everlasting edifice, as the verse there states, “and I shall dwell among them forever.” Instead, when it came time to rebuild the second Temple, G‑d commanded through his prophets Chaggai, Zechariah and Malachi not to build it according to the specifications in Ezekiel.

Indeed, when the Rabbis referred to the second Temple period, they would say it was a partial redemption only. For not only were the Jews still under foreign rule, but the second Temple also lacked some key components—including the Holy Ark.
However, even though the second Temple did not have the everlasting quality of the Temple of Ezekiel’s prophecy, the builders did incorporate certain parts of the prophecy into its construction.

In commanding Ezekiel to describe the dimensions of the Temple to the Jewish people, G‑d says,
So we find that the specs given in Ez. 40-46 were for the second temple however God told them not to build to those specs for a reason, probably their lack of national repentance. Could at some point a third millennial temple be built to these specs? Absolutely, however this does explain the animal sacrifices and sin offerings described there as being for the second temple as they will have no place in the millennium.


John, I find it always problematic to create metaphors to describe a literal thing.

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Perhaps, the better verses to quote would have been WITHIN chapters 40-46:

Ezekiel 43:1-7
1 Afterward he brought me to the gate, even the gate that looketh toward the east:
2 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory.
3 And it was according to the appearance of the vision which I saw, even according to the vision that I saw when I came to destroy the city: and the visions were like the vision that I saw by the river Chebar; and I fell upon my face.
4 And the glory of the Lord came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect is toward the east.
5 So the spirit took me up, and brought me into the inner court; and, behold, the glory of the Lord filled the house.
6 And I heard him speaking unto me out of the house; and the man stood by me.
7 And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places.
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This is a scene that has not happened, yet! If this was the place for YHWH'S throne where He would "dwell in the midst of the children of Isra'el for ever" and when His "holy name, shall the house(hold) of Isra'el no more defile," then this is yet in the future! This is also the passage of Scripture that stresses the importance of the eastern gate, also known as the "golden gate," which is buried below the section of wall of the Old City that currently exists and is so called.

Ezekiel 44:1-3
1 Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut.
2 Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.
3 It is for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate, and shall go out by the way of the same.
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Again, only Yeshua` (the Prince, Sar Shalom, the Prince of Peace) may use the eastern gate! At all other times, the gate will remain closed.

Therefore, this gate MUST exist when Yeshua` returns! Since the second Temple no longer exists, THIS Temple must in the future!

Ezekiel 45:1-7
1 Moreover, when ye shall divide by lot the land for inheritance, ye shall offer an oblation unto the LORD, an holy portion of the land: the length shall be the length of five and twenty thousand reeds, and the breadth shall be ten thousand. This shall be holy in all the borders thereof round about.
2 Of this there shall be for the sanctuary five hundred in length, with five hundred in breadth, square round about; and fifty cubits round about for the suburbs thereof.
3 And of this measure shalt thou measure the length of five and twenty thousand, and the breadth of ten thousand: and in it shall be the sanctuary and the most holy place.
4 The holy portion of the land shall be for the priests the ministers of the sanctuary, which shall come near to minister unto the LORD: and it shall be a place for their houses, and an holy place for the sanctuary.
5 And the five and twenty thousand of length, and the ten thousand of breadth, shall also the Levites, the ministers of the house, have for themselves, for a possession for twenty chambers.
6 And ye shall appoint the possession of the city five thousand broad, and five and twenty thousand long, over against the oblation of the holy portion: it shall be for the whole house of Israel.
7 And a portion shall be for the prince on the one side and on the other side of the oblation of the holy portion, and of the possession of the city, before the oblation of the holy portion, and before the possession of the city, from the west side westward, and from the east side eastward: and the length shall be over against one of the portions, from the west border unto the east border.
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When has such an "oblation" EVER been given to YHWH or a whole tract of land to the Prince Yeshua`? This is still to be experienced in the future!

So, to say that these chapters are about the second Temple is not a correct assessment.

You simply don't understand the need for the sacrifices. Just because they aren't "necessary" for our justification in God's sight doesn't mean that they aren't necessary for God's OWN reasons. I believe they are a MEMORIAL!

Hi Retro, Your words: "Again, only Yeshua` (the Prince, Sar Shalom, the Prince of Peace) may use the eastern gate! At all other times, the gate will remain closed."

I believe it was you that stated somewhere the term "prince" was used to describe the high priest, Christ would be the "Lord". I think what needs to be understood is that at a future date God will show Israel all the chances they had to bring in His kingdom. The possibility that Israel would obey God and have the kingdom abvailable at that time, has to be real for the prophecies to mean anything. God will have to show them why, because of their disobedience, these opportunities were delayed.


Hi John, Your words: "Did Abel's blood actually cry out? Nope, this was a metaphor." "Would a literal chain really bind a spirit being? Nope, this is a metaphor."

I mean no disrespect but I don't limit God. Could God as a creator of blood hear Abels blood cry out? I think He can. Can God create a chain the would hold a spirit being? I think He can.

The point is maybe they are metaphors and maybe they're not. Jesus said in Luke 19:40 - "And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out."

If the creator wanted to make stones cry out, He could. I don't put any limitations on God just because there are things out there I don't understand. Common sense tells me stones won't cry out, but my God has no limits to what He can and can't do, so I just don't assume metaphors. I think first, could this really happen? With God all things are possible. Usually, in the word when metaphors are used, they are generally explained.

Shalom, Trekson.

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Hi Retro, Your words: "Again, only Yeshua` (the Prince, Sar Shalom, the Prince of Peace) may use the eastern gate! At all other times, the gate will remain closed."

I believe it was you that stated somewhere the term "prince" was used to describe the high priest, Christ would be the "Lord". I think what needs to be understood is that at a future date God will show Israel all the chances they had to bring in His kingdom. The possibility that Israel would obey God and have the kingdom abvailable at that time, has to be real for the prophecies to mean anything. God will have to show them why, because of their disobedience, these opportunities were delayed.


Hi John, Your words: "Did Abel's blood actually cry out? Nope, this was a metaphor." "Would a literal chain really bind a spirit being? Nope, this is a metaphor."

I mean no disrespect but I don't limit God. Could God as a creator of blood hear Abels blood cry out? I think He can. Can God create a chain the would hold a spirit being? I think He can.

The point is maybe they are metaphors and maybe they're not. Jesus said in Luke 19:40 - "And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out."

If the creator wanted to make stones cry out, He could. I don't put any limitations on God just because there are things out there I don't understand. Common sense tells me stones won't cry out, but my God has no limits to what He can and can't do, so I just don't assume metaphors. I think first, could this really happen? With God all things are possible. Usually, in the word when metaphors are used, they are generally explained.

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Nope. I wasn't the one who said that. In the Millennium, the first 1000 years of Yeshua`s reign, He is both. He is the King of Y'hudah, then the King of Isra'el, and finally the King of kings, as the individual kings either get on board or are subdued; however, He is also the world's go-between for a relationship with YHWH.

But, you're right about Yeshua` setting straight the matter regarding their missed opportunities; however, that will be a brief revelation, because their ancestors will already be lamenting His treatment and His death as they would for a first-born son or for an only son (Zech. 12). They will NOT miss the seriousness of their crime. However, only the sons of Tsadok will be allowed to serve YHWH directly, which will be a constant reminder and personal affront to the other Levi'iym (Levites) and cohaniym (priests).

As far as metaphors, you both should know that sometimes it's not about metaphors but about impossible scenarios. As surely as rocks don't cry out, so the disciples and the children couldn't keep quiet! It was IMPOSSIBLE for them to keep quiet! That's what the phrase means! We are NOT meant to expect rocks to cry out! EVER! And, the P'rushiym (Pharisees) should not have been expecting to keep the people quiet when it was already prophesied that they would so react to His arrival!

Also, we make several assumptions that may not be accurate. IS haSatan a "spirit being?" That is NOT how he is portrayed in Scripture! Look carefully at the verses in Revelation:

Rev. 12:9
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
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Rev. 20:2-3
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
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In both of these locations, it is not the Devil and Satan which is the dragon, the original snake; it is the dragon, the original snake, that is the Devil (the Slanderer) and haSatan (the Enemy)! Who's to say he's not more literal and physical than we understand him to be? I believe that literal chains WILL hold him!

Hi Retro, Your words:"We are NOT meant to expect rocks to cry out! EVER!"

I once heard a preacher teach that with advanced technology and the use of metals (from rocks) gold, silver, iron, etc. that an argument could be given that instruments, radios, satellites, etc. when used in the praise and worship of God, could be considered as "rocks crying out", if one wanted to look at this prophetically. Either way I don't limit God on anything. Imo, the total combined knowledge of humanity is just a tiny speck in a vast ocean of the unknown knowledge that will one day be revealed to us.

Your words: "IS haSatan a "spirit being?"

Eph. 6:12 seems to imply that he's not "physical" as we understand it, just as Christ wasn't physical after His resurrection, in the way we understand it. That the spirit can act and be physical is without question but that is only one small aspect, imo, of what the spiritual reality is capable of.