Was there a pre-Adamic race?

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Was there a pre-Adamic race? God created all the races on the sixth day (Genesis 1:24-31). He rested on the seventh and then we are told he created THE man Adam, I base this on the fact that in Genesis 1:26, the word man does not have the definite article so it means mankind as a whole. In Genesis 2:7, the word man has the definite article and particle (eth-ha adham) and means THE man, Adam. Genesis 1:27 mankind was created and in Genesis 2:7 Adam was formed.Genesis 1:27 V27 So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.Hebrew word for Created (H1254) bara' (baw-raw'); a primitive root; (absolutely) to create;1) to create, shape, forma) (Qal) to shape, fashion, create (always with God as subject)1) of heaven and earth2) of individual man3) of new conditions and circumstances4) of transformations
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(Niphal) to be created1) of heaven and earth2) of birth3) of something new4) of miracles (qualified) to cut down (a wood), select, feed (as formative processes): -choose, create (creator), cut down, dispatch, do, make (fat).Take note of the differnt word formedGenesis 2:7V7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.Formed (H3335 yatsar (yaw-tsar'); 1) to form, fashion, framea) (Qal) to form, fashion1) of human activity2) of divine activitya) of creation1) of original creation2) of individuals at conception3) of Israel as a people
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to frame, pre-ordain, plan (fig. of divine) purpose of a situation)
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(Niphal) to be formed, be createdc) (Pual) to be predetermined, be pre-ordainedd) (Hophal) to be formedprobably identical with 3334 (through the squeezing into shape); ([compare 3331]); to mould into a form; especially as a potter; figuratively, to determine (i.e. form a resolution) Are we all descendants of Adam and Eve? No. All the races were created on the sixth day. Why is Eve called the mother of all living? She is called the mother of all living because it was through her offspring that Jesus Christ was born and we can only have eternal life through Him. Not because we are all descendants of Adam and Eve. Are Adam's descendants better than the other races? No. God created all the races on the sixth day (Genesis 1:24-31) and in verse 31 it tells us that God saw every thing He made and it was very good. No matter what race of people you happen to be, you are a child of the Living God and He loves you!This is Why there was no incest that created all mankind , This is why Cain went to land of Nod and married there, This is why Cain was scared he would be killed if he left and was send out into the world.Adam was the first of the Adamic line a specific bloodline that Christ would be born thru, It is the bloodline Satan was trying to destroyfrom the beginning.
 

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That is so true Kriss, it really does paint an absurd picture if we are all born of Adam and Eve. If you think about it, there would be tons of incest (which is sin) and it would likely to fill the cup a lot quicker than you think. :amen: and :blessyou:Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
 

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There is no pre-adamic race. And if there were, then they would be without souls.Luke 3:38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
 

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That's baloney Wakka where do you get that stuff. Its a ridiculous unfounded statement.
 

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There is no pre-adamic race. And if there were, then they would be without souls.Luke 3:38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Are you still holding on to the soulless men tradition Wakka? I'll just say this quite plainly. The people in Genesis 1:26-27 had no knowledge of the Word except for the fact YHWH told them to multiply and replenish (fill) the Earth. (Genesis 1:28) There you go, there's prove for races.Adam and Eve are a SPECIAL lineage for Yahshua (Christ) to come through.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
 

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According To The Bible, We Are All Descendants Of Adam And Eve=period.oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo WAKA WHAT SHE IS SAYING IS BALONEY=RIGHT ON YOUNG MAN, LEAD THE ASSUALT WAKA
 

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Honey I Can Read, Like Waka We Do Not Have To Write A Novel To Make A Simple Point. Huh. DUH, JESUS WROTE THAT NOVEL WHERE WE (WAKA AND MYSELF), DO NOT HAVE TO. NOW!
 

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Word except for the fact YHWH told them to multiply and replenish (fill) the Earth. (Genesis 1:28) There you go, there's prove for races.This was before Adam can you read it?
 

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Why Could Not Adam (1 Man) And Eve(1 Woman) Multiply And Replenish.=I THINK ADAM AND EVE DID MULTIPLY=I DO NOT THINK WE NEED ALL THE GENEOLOGY. IF YU WANT TO POINT OUT ANY SPECIFIC SCRIPTURE TO DEBATE THAT =FIRE AWAY! SHOOT. I WILL GO EAT AND PLAY POKER EHILE YOU COMPILE YOUR SHORT STORY.
 

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Every human being on Earth has a soul. That includes Africans, disformed, and mentally handicapped people. There were no humans (ie: Us, me and you.) before Adam. And the Pre-Adamic docterine states that men were alive before Adam. Well, then those men should have been soulless because Adam was the first human with a soul.1 Corinthians 15:4545And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
 

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Every human being on Earth has a soul. That includes Africans, disformed, and mentally handicapped people. There were no humans (ie: Us, me and you.) before Adam. And the Pre-Adamic docterine states that men were alive before Adam. Well, then those men should have been soulless because Adam was the first human with a soul.1 Corinthians 15:4545And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
I'll say it again. The sixth day people has no knowledge of the Word whatsoever from YHWH, but He told them to multiply and replenish the earth.He is a thought that you may understand. Yahshua is the Son of the Living God. He is the Living Word. And Adam is a son of the Living God, and he is the STARTING line up to come for the Son of the Most High to come through.Satan wasn't even going after the 6th day peoples, until after the fall of Adam and Eve.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord.P.S. If we were from Adam & Eve, there would be tons of that sin (incest) committed and will fill up the cup quickly. And God can not sin at all period.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
 

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I'll say it again. The sixth day people has no knowledge of the Word whatsoever from YHWH, but He told them to multiply and replenish the earth.He is a thought that you may understand. Yahshua is the Son of the Living God. He is the Living Word. And Adam is a son of the Living God, and he is the STARTING line up to come for the Son of the Most High to come through.Satan wasn't even going after the 6th day peoples, until after the fall of Adam and Eve.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord.P.S. If we were from Adam & Eve, there would be tons of that sin (incest) committed and will fill up the cup quickly. And God can not sin at all period.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
I can not believe in a Pre-Adamic race, nor can I believe in a Gap Theory.Here's a quote from Henry Morris:" If the world existed prior to the pre-Adamic cataclysm, then it existed before the sin of Satan which brought on the cataclysm. that is, suffering and death existed for a billion years before the sin of Satan and the subsequent sin of Adam.The Bible says, however, that death came into the world only when Adam brought sin into the world ( Romans 5:12, 1 Cor. 15:21).This fact directly contradicts the assumption in the gap theory that death prevailed for ages before Adam. Furthermore, this primeval prevalence of suffering and death even before Satan's rebellion leaves only God Himself as responsible for such a state. But the very idea that the God of order and love would directly create and use a universal system based on randomness and cruelty seems almost blasphemous. These, however, are the implications of the gap theory."
 

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All the souls were created at the same time before this earth age. The fact that there were people before Adam does not mean they didn't have souls, just as animals have souls there is no living creature without a soul Wakka.Does that mean Adam was different Yes, What did God breathe into him that set him apart we dont know for sure only that it was a spark (as the Jews put it) of spirt God. And as we know we are made flesh, spirit and soul. So to say these people were souless is without foundation.Wakka listen to what Gods word says not men. How does it make you less of a believer to see God had a plan different than you thought?????
 

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Wakka How do you think believing God broke his own Laws of nature with causing Adam and Eve to commit incest somehow makes you a better Christian than one who believes God would never do such a thing that the reason the emphasis is on Adam is because that's what the Bible is about our Salvation how does that change to believe others were upon the earth????? What christian Law does that break???
 

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All the souls were created at the same time before this earth age. The fact that there were people before Adam does not mean they didn't have souls, just as animals have souls there is no living creature without a soul Wakka.Does that mean Adam was different Yes, What did God breathe into him that set him apart we dont know for sure only that it was a spark (as the Jews put it) of spirt God. And as we know we are made flesh, spirit and soul. So to say these people were souless is without foundation.Wakka listen to what Gods word says not men. How does it make you less of a believer to see God had a plan different than you thought?????
Because it's a human doctrine. I am very Orthodox in my beliefs. And I have set up a nice stronghold.Animals aren't capable of going to heaven after they die. God gave man a unique soul. And Adam was the first to receive that human soul.Also, if there was another race, then how would they have died? Adam and Eve were the only ones to bring death to the world from their sins. And the Bible states that death came from Adam.Romans 5:12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
 

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Wakka How do you think believing God broke his own Laws of nature with causing Adam and Eve to commit incest somehow makes you a better Christian than one who believes God would never do such a thing that the reason the emphasis is on Adam is because that's what the Bible is about our Salvation how does that change to believe others were upon the earth????? What christian Law does that break???
Was there a law against it at that time? We'll have to see after the day of Judgment. That's when we'll truly know everything. Well, 99.9%.
 

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So you say that God did not create a perfect world. Tell me Wakka, how can one only make many races if there were only 2 souls alive? (as you believe)Sorry to break that up to you Wakka, Human stronghold is difinately infinately weaker than God stronghold.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
 

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What you're telling me is blasphemy. God can create a perfect world with only two people. Unfortunately, for both of us, Genesis isn't as detailed as we want it to be.Might I also add, the book of Jasher, provides a detailed account parallel to that of Genesis, and two original beings. Adam and Eve.Read it. I read it on my youth group trip to Yellowstone/Montana.Also, easy. Races are made from adaptation (or micro evolution). It isn't evolution, adaptation is a God given gift. Why do you think creatures change in different environments, or with different diets. Darwin himself experimented on the beak size of different island birds of the same species. Birds from one island had thicker harder beaks because they ate nuts and hard food. While other birds from a different island had thinner beaks because they ate fruits. Man can also change to adapt to their surroundings. And there is only one race of man. That is Human.
 

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Blasphemy???? Its Gods word its in the Bible what you believe is mans doctrine not Gods word. If amimals dont go to heaven how do you explain the lion laying down with Lamb. blasphemy according to who? Men it certainly isnt to God. God made the laws of Nature he made incest so as those that commited it would suffer deformatives and die out. Why would he make a law that he had to break???