i want to thank our troops for dieing for us. it is easy for me to sit and play games on the computer all day while our warriors are trying not to walk by a bicycle IED. and the lies being spewed no about getting them out quick. maybe they can but someone is telling fibs.i would probably want to be coming home too. i tried to sign up but was told i was too old and had a few too many duis. they carry a sidearm and they do not like it if yu have had more than 3 duis in a lifetime. but what about rifles. huh. bless jesus
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rather, pray for all troops that actually use a weapon to kill, pray that they never do or never have to ~ whether anyone thinks it to be noble, heroic or not - such action directly breaks both our Lord & Father's commandment regardless..
Thats a incorrect conclusion the commandment is about Murder the Hebrew is very clear on this word translated "Kill" it means not to lay plan and wait to murderThis is not the same as the solider being ordered into war, Nor is it about accidentally killing another God is very clear that he and he alone controls the Nations and its leaders if a government sends and army to do its bidding the soldier is not held responsible.
(kriss;17913)
Thats a incorrect conclusion the commandment is about Murder the Hebrew is very clear on this word translated "Kill" it means not to lay plan and wait to murderThis is not the same as the solider being ordered into war, Nor is it about accidentally killing another God is very clear that he and he alone controls the Nations and its leaders if a government sends and army to do its bidding the soldier is not held responsible.
i think not...it is written that the wicked that stand against God's word are subject to the curse of discord, but we have been given choice ~ we don't have to contribute to murder.. make no mistake, God forbids the act of murder & Jesus Christ warns not only against murder, but more-so against having enmity against thy neighbor.. do you really think that our Lord would agree with what you say? do you think that murder will be acceptable in day of judgement...Jesus teaches us to know others by the fruits they produce...i tell you the truth, i find no good fruits in the above response - therefore, i cannot & will not agree..read the scriptures, for it says that the greatest of commandments is to love thy God with all thy heart & all thy soul & with all thy strength, the second is to love thy neighbor as thyself & following, to treat everyone we meet with mercy.. even John the Baptist says to do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely.. if you still think i'm incorrect, then it will be clear to me that i'm in the wrong forum..one last thing, one who is in Christ will not be harmed - no matter what happens..
Thats a incorrect conclusion the commandment is about Murder the Hebrew is very clear on this word translated "Kill" it means not to lay plan and wait to murderThis is not the same as the solider being ordered into war, Nor is it about accidentally killing another God is very clear that he and he alone controls the Nations and its leaders if a government sends and army to do its bidding the soldier is not held responsible.
i think not...it is written that the wicked that stand against God's word are subject to the curse of discord, but we have been given choice ~ we don't have to contribute to murder.. make no mistake, God forbids the act of murder & Jesus Christ warns not only against murder, but more-so against having enmity against thy neighbor.. do you really think that our Lord would agree with what you say? do you think that murder will be acceptable in day of judgement...Jesus teaches us to know others by the fruits they produce...i tell you the truth, i find no good fruits in the above response - therefore, i cannot & will not agree..read the scriptures, for it says that the greatest of commandments is to love thy God with all thy heart & all thy soul & with all thy strength, the second is to love thy neighbor as thyself & following, to treat everyone we meet with mercy.. even John the Baptist says to do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely.. if you still think i'm incorrect, then it will be clear to me that i'm in the wrong forum..one last thing, one who is in Christ will not be harmed - no matter what happens..
do you really think that our Lord would agree with what you say?
Yes, absolutely. The consequences of what you propose would be to lay down and let the murderers kill you. You don't have to have enmity against thy neighbor to defend yourself. Also strategic attacks can fall in this category as well, due to the fact that killing your enemy can save lives. I don't expect everyone to understand this.
Yes, absolutely. The consequences of what you propose would be to lay down and let the murderers kill you. You don't have to have enmity against thy neighbor to defend yourself. Also strategic attacks can fall in this category as well, due to the fact that killing your enemy can save lives. I don't expect everyone to understand this.
Exodus 15:3 - The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.Jeremiah 21:4 - Thus saith the LORD God of Israel; Behold, I will turn back the weapons of war that are in your hands, wherewith ye fight against the king of Babylon, and against the Chaldeans, which besiege you without the walls, and I will assemble them into the midst of this city.Luke 22:36 - Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.Lovest thou in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
(faith;17902)
rather, pray for all troops that actually use a weapon to kill, pray that they never do or never have to ~ whether anyone thinks it to be noble, heroic or not - such action directly breaks both our Lord & Father's commandment regardless..
Then God will judge me for the deaths that I will continue to commite so you can continue to keep your ignorant opinion on the matter.You have forgotten in the Old Testament where God commandes the Isrealites to kill every man, woman, child, and beast of nations who haved angered Him. But that's fine.I'm in an ill humor today so mind my foul mood.
rather, pray for all troops that actually use a weapon to kill, pray that they never do or never have to ~ whether anyone thinks it to be noble, heroic or not - such action directly breaks both our Lord & Father's commandment regardless..
Then God will judge me for the deaths that I will continue to commite so you can continue to keep your ignorant opinion on the matter.You have forgotten in the Old Testament where God commandes the Isrealites to kill every man, woman, child, and beast of nations who haved angered Him. But that's fine.I'm in an ill humor today so mind my foul mood.
(faith;17923)
i think not...it is written that the wicked that stand against God's word are subject to the curse of discord, but we have been given choice ~ we don't have to contribute to murder.. make no mistake, God forbids the act of murder & Jesus Christ warns not only against murder, but more-so against having enmity against thy neighbor.. do you really think that our Lord would agree with what you say? do you think that murder will be acceptable in day of judgement...Jesus teaches us to know others by the fruits they produce...i tell you the truth, i find no good fruits in the above response - therefore, i cannot & will not agree..read the scriptures, for it says that the greatest of commandments is to love thy God with all thy heart & all thy soul & with all thy strength, the second is to love thy neighbor as thyself & following, to treat everyone we meet with mercy.. even John the Baptist says to do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely.. if you still think i'm incorrect, then it will be clear to me that i'm in the wrong forum..one last thing, one who is in Christ will not be harmed - no matter what happens..
Hi faith,I would like to add add to yours.When you join the military, you are swearing an oath to your government. When you do they own you and you are being disloyal to your real Master which is breaking one of God's commandments. You cannot have two masterslove, hitomi
i think not...it is written that the wicked that stand against God's word are subject to the curse of discord, but we have been given choice ~ we don't have to contribute to murder.. make no mistake, God forbids the act of murder & Jesus Christ warns not only against murder, but more-so against having enmity against thy neighbor.. do you really think that our Lord would agree with what you say? do you think that murder will be acceptable in day of judgement...Jesus teaches us to know others by the fruits they produce...i tell you the truth, i find no good fruits in the above response - therefore, i cannot & will not agree..read the scriptures, for it says that the greatest of commandments is to love thy God with all thy heart & all thy soul & with all thy strength, the second is to love thy neighbor as thyself & following, to treat everyone we meet with mercy.. even John the Baptist says to do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely.. if you still think i'm incorrect, then it will be clear to me that i'm in the wrong forum..one last thing, one who is in Christ will not be harmed - no matter what happens..
Hi faith,I would like to add add to yours.When you join the military, you are swearing an oath to your government. When you do they own you and you are being disloyal to your real Master which is breaking one of God's commandments. You cannot have two masterslove, hitomi
(Joyful;17929)
Hi faith,I would like to add add to yours.When you join the military, you are swearing an oath to your government. When you do they own you and you are being disloyal to your real Master which is breaking one of God's commandments. You cannot have two masterslove, hitomi
Just like the oath you say in court
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Hi faith,I would like to add add to yours.When you join the military, you are swearing an oath to your government. When you do they own you and you are being disloyal to your real Master which is breaking one of God's commandments. You cannot have two masterslove, hitomi
Just like the oath you say in court
Reguardless God says we must follow civil laws and a nation is exspected to have a military. You are not held to the same standards as one who murders.The word kill appears 126 times in the bible and that doesnt include other forms of the word (killed,kills ex.) many of those times its ordered by God to his armies/people. Whether you like it or not wherther you understand it or not isn't important the fact is God uses armies of Nations to do his bidding. And thats Gods word on it. so what ever your opinion is its just that an opinion.
(Wakka;17932)
Just like the oath you say in court
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When you give an oath to the government (military), they own you. You cannot to say no to anything they order you without breaking your oath. When you give an oath to court, you are saying you will be absolutly honest. The court doesnt own you when you swear to tell the truth.love, hitomi
Just like the oath you say in court
When you give an oath to the government (military), they own you. You cannot to say no to anything they order you without breaking your oath. When you give an oath to court, you are saying you will be absolutly honest. The court doesnt own you when you swear to tell the truth.love, hitomi
(kriss;17935)
Reguardless God says we must follow civil laws and a nation is exspected to have a military. You are not held to the same standards as one who murders.The word kill appears 126 times in the bible and that doesnt include other forms of the word (killed,kills ex.) many of those times its ordered by God to his armies/people. Whether you like it or not wherther you understand it or not isn't important the fact is God uses armies of Nations to do his bidding. And thats Gods word on it. so what ever your opinion is its just that an opinion.
It is my conviction that whoever supports and join the military is committing a grave sin against YHWH and Jesus.Love, hitomi
Reguardless God says we must follow civil laws and a nation is exspected to have a military. You are not held to the same standards as one who murders.The word kill appears 126 times in the bible and that doesnt include other forms of the word (killed,kills ex.) many of those times its ordered by God to his armies/people. Whether you like it or not wherther you understand it or not isn't important the fact is God uses armies of Nations to do his bidding. And thats Gods word on it. so what ever your opinion is its just that an opinion.
It is my conviction that whoever supports and join the military is committing a grave sin against YHWH and Jesus.Love, hitomi
And sense you and I have been through this
You know I disagree but respect I your right to your opinion God Blessjoyful
You know I disagree but respect I your right to your opinion God Blessjoyful(Joyful;17929)
When you join the military, you are swearing an oath to your government. When you do they own you and you are being disloyal to your real Master which is breaking one of God's commandments. You cannot have two masters
I am not allowed to defend a country that God has given power over? Who would do it if not I? You? Unlikely.(Joyful;17944)
When you give an oath to the government (military), they own you. You cannot to say no to anything they order you without breaking your oath. When you give an oath to court, you are saying you will be absolutly honest. The court doesnt own you when you swear to tell the truth.
Own me, correct; own my soul, no. I, like any soldier, can deny an order three times. On the third time an order is denied there better be a damn good reason why I am refusing to obey a lawfull order. There are two types of orders: lawfull and unlawfull orders. It is requested that one followes through on a lawfull order (unless it goes against one's values).I suggest you keep your mouth shut over something you have no idea about.
When you join the military, you are swearing an oath to your government. When you do they own you and you are being disloyal to your real Master which is breaking one of God's commandments. You cannot have two masters
I am not allowed to defend a country that God has given power over? Who would do it if not I? You? Unlikely.(Joyful;17944)
When you give an oath to the government (military), they own you. You cannot to say no to anything they order you without breaking your oath. When you give an oath to court, you are saying you will be absolutly honest. The court doesnt own you when you swear to tell the truth.
Own me, correct; own my soul, no. I, like any soldier, can deny an order three times. On the third time an order is denied there better be a damn good reason why I am refusing to obey a lawfull order. There are two types of orders: lawfull and unlawfull orders. It is requested that one followes through on a lawfull order (unless it goes against one's values).I suggest you keep your mouth shut over something you have no idea about.
(E Nomine;17927)
Then God will judge me for the deaths that I will continue to commite so you can continue to keep your ignorant opinion on the matter.You have forgotten in the Old Testament where God commandes the Isrealites to kill every man, woman, child, and beast of nations who haved angered Him. But that's fine.I'm in an ill humor today so mind my foul mood.
to do violence to no man, this did John the Baptist preach to the soldiers ~ both you & kriss are quick to judge that it's only my opinion, more or less that i could possibly know nothing compared to you...if you think ill of me, so be it ~ nothing i could do about that i suppose *shrugs* but if i am to be judged, at least use righteous judgement, for if you know the scriptures then you would also know that what i say does not come from me, but directly from the teachings of Jesus Christ, our Lord.. do doubt that if you claim i'm only stating an opinion, then what does that say about our Lord that taught it? do you think that his teaching is only an opinion?God forbid..ray3:Nomine, i hearken you to hear ~ do not be deceived by Babylon, for this city is ruled by that which opposes good - including the ranks of the military which you seem to swear allegiance to...as it is written by the prophets, come out of Babylon & sin no more ~ live in accordance to the living God through the blood of the Lamb, for this be truth - that death & hell will have no place in heaven, nor murderers & despisers of good will ever be allowed in heaven.. if you have done so already, seek repentance through Jesus Christ & abide in the forgiveness that he alone offers ~ to deny his grace will hold consequence of our Father denying you, as it is written..
Then God will judge me for the deaths that I will continue to commite so you can continue to keep your ignorant opinion on the matter.You have forgotten in the Old Testament where God commandes the Isrealites to kill every man, woman, child, and beast of nations who haved angered Him. But that's fine.I'm in an ill humor today so mind my foul mood.
to do violence to no man, this did John the Baptist preach to the soldiers ~ both you & kriss are quick to judge that it's only my opinion, more or less that i could possibly know nothing compared to you...if you think ill of me, so be it ~ nothing i could do about that i suppose *shrugs* but if i am to be judged, at least use righteous judgement, for if you know the scriptures then you would also know that what i say does not come from me, but directly from the teachings of Jesus Christ, our Lord.. do doubt that if you claim i'm only stating an opinion, then what does that say about our Lord that taught it? do you think that his teaching is only an opinion?God forbid..
ray3:Nomine, i hearken you to hear ~ do not be deceived by Babylon, for this city is ruled by that which opposes good - including the ranks of the military which you seem to swear allegiance to...as it is written by the prophets, come out of Babylon & sin no more ~ live in accordance to the living God through the blood of the Lamb, for this be truth - that death & hell will have no place in heaven, nor murderers & despisers of good will ever be allowed in heaven.. if you have done so already, seek repentance through Jesus Christ & abide in the forgiveness that he alone offers ~ to deny his grace will hold consequence of our Father denying you, as it is written..Now I don't know about E Nomine, but I can tell that Kriss was not judging at all.Matthew 5:17-18 - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Christ never changed the law from the OT, it still exist today. We should use common sense.Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
Nomine, i hearken you to hear ~ do not be deceived by Babylon, for this city is ruled by that which opposes good - including the ranks of the military which you seem to swear allegiance to...as it is written by the prophets, come out of Babylon & sin no more ~ live in accordance to the living God through the blood of the Lamb, for this be truth - that death & hell will have no place in heaven, nor murderers & despisers of good will ever be allowed in heaven.. if you have done so already, seek repentance through Jesus Christ & abide in the forgiveness that he alone offers ~ to deny his grace will hold consequence of our Father denying you, as it is written..
well said, faith.BTW, most forums are run by trinitrians and most of them support and join the military, so that you know you can find hardly any forum you will get support for your protest.love, hitomi
well said, faith.BTW, most forums are run by trinitrians and most of them support and join the military, so that you know you can find hardly any forum you will get support for your protest.love, hitomi
The only time I refused His grace was when I worshiped Death and Chaos. I do not now and I will never again. I rependt daily for each sin that I knowingly commit and for those that I have no idea that I have done - aswell as those that I will commite.I joined the military because I felt called to do so just as He called David to kill Goliath. Just as he called David to kill all his sons save for Solomon. Just as God will kill all non-believers at the End of Days.I joined to defend my family, my country, my belifes, and my God from those who hate all of these things. I know you do not understand and I will not waste my time to explain it to you. I believe that if you refuse to hear then you will never do so.Take care, and if I sounded condecending I was. I was already in a bad mood and your opinions didn't help me any. Forgive me?
(E Nomine;17984)
The only time I refused His grace was when I worshiped Death and Chaos. I do not now and I will never again. I rependt daily for each sin that I knowingly commit and for those that I have no idea that I have done - aswell as those that I will commite.I joined the military because I felt called to do so just as He called David to kill Goliath. Just as he called David to kill all his sons save for Solomon. Just as God will kill all non-believers at the End of Days.I joined to defend my family, my country, my belifes, and my God from those who hate all of these things. I know you do not understand and I will not waste my time to explain it to you. I believe that if you refuse to hear then you will never do so.Take care, and if I sounded condecending I was. I was already in a bad mood and your opinions didn't help me any. Forgive me?
Our time is Jesus' time and spreading Him: YHWH tells His followers to listen to Jesus. Jesus tells us to love our enemy, not to kill them. David got order from God directly and you think God is calling you to kill your enemy contradicting Jesus' command.Love, hitomi
The only time I refused His grace was when I worshiped Death and Chaos. I do not now and I will never again. I rependt daily for each sin that I knowingly commit and for those that I have no idea that I have done - aswell as those that I will commite.I joined the military because I felt called to do so just as He called David to kill Goliath. Just as he called David to kill all his sons save for Solomon. Just as God will kill all non-believers at the End of Days.I joined to defend my family, my country, my belifes, and my God from those who hate all of these things. I know you do not understand and I will not waste my time to explain it to you. I believe that if you refuse to hear then you will never do so.Take care, and if I sounded condecending I was. I was already in a bad mood and your opinions didn't help me any. Forgive me?
Our time is Jesus' time and spreading Him: YHWH tells His followers to listen to Jesus. Jesus tells us to love our enemy, not to kill them. David got order from God directly and you think God is calling you to kill your enemy contradicting Jesus' command.
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