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Amy

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Another chapter of shame on Islam and Muslims​
On September 1, 2004 Chechen Muslim terrorists raided a school in Beslan Russia . They packed the children into the school gym with wired explosives. They kept hundreds of children with thirst and raped them at gunpoint. On the third day the standoff ended when shooting broke out between the hostage takers and Russian security forces. According to official data, 344 civilians were killed, 186 of them children and hundreds more wounded.
 

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Never forget the evil we are dealing with. Never forget the depravity in the heart of every true Muslim.Russian Soldiers helping ...
 

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If you are still a Muslim, shame on you! Leave this cult of hate! curse Muhammad, this messenger of Satan and reclaim your humanity today. God does not prize you for being stupid.
 

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Muslims are delivering their message loud and clear. Are you listening?
 

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Proverbs 6:16-19 - These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.Proverbs 8:13 - The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.Romans 3:10-18 - As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes.Romans 1:21-23, Romans 1:25 - Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.Romans 1:29-32 - Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.II Corinthians 4:4 - In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
 

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I weep. This is exactly the lack of integrity I was trying to tell you about. I would never direct a Muslim to such hate filled posts.Christianity has a bloody history as well. Christianity in the hands of Christians is as fallible as Islam in the hands of Muslims. Why is it that Muslims more frequently exert this behaviour visibly today? Because most of them live in the world of the Middle east. I have never met a Muslim in Canada who had ever done any such thing or supported it.This is a grossly false perception of Islam as a religion. I myself as a Christian have done terrible things. However, can one judge the integrity of my religion based on my actions? No, they cannot. Horrible things happen all around the world, every day. Don't be one of those who perpetuates the hate and hurt.Time for us "the Pot" to stop calling the kettle black.In ever present hope, Tyrel.
 

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(Biblical Tetragramaton;19304)
I weep. This is exactly the lack of integrity I was trying to tell you about. I would never direct a Muslim to such hate filled posts.Christianity has a bloody history as well. Christianity in the hands of Christians is as fallible as Islam in the hands of Muslims. Why is it that Muslims more frequently exert this behaviour visibly today? Because most of them live in the world of the Middle east. I have never met a Muslim in Canada who had ever done any such thing or supported it.This is a grossly false perception of Islam as a religion. I myself as a Christian have done terrible things. However, can one judge the integrity of my religion based on my actions? No, they cannot. Horrible things happen all around the world, every day. Don't be one of those who perpetuates the hate and hurt.Time for us "the Pot" to stop calling the kettle black.In ever present hope, Tyrel.
Correction. Christianity in the hands of Catholics.
 

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I weep. This is exactly the lack of integrity I was trying to tell you about. I would never direct a Muslim to such hate filled posts.Christianity has a bloody history as well. Christianity in the hands of Christians is as fallible as Islam in the hands of Muslims. Why is it that Muslims more frequently exert this behaviour visibly today? Because most of them live in the world of the Middle east. I have never met a Muslim in Canada who had ever done any such thing or supported it.This is a grossly false perception of Islam as a religion. I myself as a Christian have done terrible things. However, can one judge the integrity of my religion based on my actions? No, they cannot. Horrible things happen all around the world, every day. Don't be one of those who perpetuates the hate and hurt.Time for us "the Pot" to stop calling the kettle black.In ever present hope, Tyrel.
Dear BT,What i am about to say is not to hurt your feelings but this is how I feel honestly:There is something majorly wrong in the way you think or the world you live in. I suggest you move to an Islamic country and get a reality check !True there has been crusades in early christian era, BUT IT IS NOT TAUGHT IN BIBLE. Whereas Jihad is taught in Quran, Talibans go exactly by the book and majority of muslims don't know better as they are brain-washed. Were you so lost in the pictures that you didn't check the refrences to few verses from the quran that causes this mass hysteria? PROPOGATE HATE & HURT??? WHAT ABOUT AWARENESS COURSE FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU !!! We are way past the level of propogating anything, wake up this is real.If you don't dare to be aware of the reality, sit in your little corner and pray that you will be safe there.Have you ever had a chance to experience any of this? Or talk to anyone who has been through this? I have, not once but many times. Unlike you making asumptions, I know what we are dealing with here. I speak on behalf of millions who suffer (some I know personally), is that wrong? On a human level I don't depise muslims. They are also human but they are following an evil religion and I feel the ressponsibility to spread awareness of evil. But whenever a religion is an issue people are offended. Should that stop me from speaking the truth?
 

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I weep. This is exactly the lack of integrity I was trying to tell you about. I would never direct a Muslim to such hate filled posts.Christianity has a bloody history as well. Christianity in the hands of Christians is as fallible as Islam in the hands of Muslims. Why is it that Muslims more frequently exert this behaviour visibly today? Because most of them live in the world of the Middle east. I have never met a Muslim in Canada who had ever done any such thing or supported it.This is a grossly false perception of Islam as a religion. I myself as a Christian have done terrible things. However, can one judge the integrity of my religion based on my actions? No, they cannot.Horrible things happen all around the world, every day. Don't be one of those who perpetuates the hate and hurt.Time for us "the Pot" to stop calling the kettle black.In ever present hope, Tyrel.
Dear BTThere is something entirely wrong with the way you are thinking...If you think we are hating muslims because of that actions, you are dead wrong... We are attacking the spirits of the antichrists. Have you not read Amy's signature yet?We wrestle NOT flesh, BUT the spirits of the antichrists. What point don't you get? I guess it's time for His Word to speak again.Psalm 97:10 - Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.Amos 5:15 - Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.We need to WAKE UP! Evil needs to be aware and evil needs to end. The truth will set us free if we listen and look for it.(Amy;19308)
Dear BT,What i am about to say is not to hurt your feelings but this is how I feel honestly:There is something majorly wrong in the way you think or the world you live in. I suggest you move to an Islamic country and get a reality check !True there has been crusades in early christian era, BUT IT IS NOT TAUGHT IN BIBLE. Whereas Jihad is taught in Quran, Talibans go exactly by the book and majority of muslims don't know better as they are brain-washed. Were you so lost in the pictures that you didn't check the refrences to few verses from the quran that causes this mass hysteria? PROPOGATE HATE & HURT??? WHAT ABOUT AWARENESS COURSE FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU !!! We are way past the level of propogating anything, wake up this is real.If you don't dare to be aware of the reality, sit in your little corner and pray that you will be safe there.Have you ever had a chance to experience any of this? Or talk to anyone who has been through this? I have, not once but many times. Unlike you making asumptions, I know what we are dealing with here. I speak on behalf of millions who suffer (some I know personally), is that wrong? On a human level I don't depise muslims. They are also human but they are following an evil religion and I feel the responsibility to spread awareness of evil. But whenever a religion is an issue people are offended. Should that stop me from speaking the truth?
I agree with you dear sister Amy. No flesh should stop anyone from telling truth. As telling the truth is not come from the flesh, but by the Spirit. (Galatians 5:17) Amy, you are doing a marvelous job in exposing Islam right where it needs to be done. Hey, we all may have different talents.
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...Some same and some different talents. At the same time, The Body should work together. And we should not give up on people,
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as there is still time to repent for everybody...I repeat WE NEED TO WAKE UP!Much love, JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
 

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Dear Amy,I can understand where you are coming from. However, when the Crusades happened people taught that the Bible clearly allowed for the Chosen people of God to exact his judgment. Thus, since Israel had lost that rite, and the Church had become that institution, the Church had the right to wage war. This is not something we today would consider to be true. However, the people of that age would have debated with us greatly. While I can understand that you are pointing to these things because you think that the violence is irrevocably a direct result of the teachings of Islam, I think that you are in the wrong for more than one reason.First, though I agree with your interpretation of the Qur'an, there are many Imam's who would debate those passages, and who, in their own eyes, have practiced their religion to the fullest, without ever having done the things depicted in your pictures. What I am saying is that, while your point is perhaps valid, I think you are attacking the uncivilized world, not Islam. Islam's teachings, just as Christianity's, are interpreted first, then taught. In my eyes, you are attacking Islam, because of the interpretation of Third world Muslims.Again, while I mostly agree with your interpretation {though Jihad requires that no women or children [or innocents] be killed}, what are you proving here to us Christians?Think about who is reading these things. There are some Christians, who are far removed from Islam and know little to nothing about it. These posts will only help them be less accepting and loving towards Muslims. Furthermore, they have been given a grossly inaccurate picture of Islam as a whole. Then there are some Muslims, who are not drawn any closer to Christ, but are either hurt, or simply think it's ridiculous to portray Islam in such a light because of the Third World.What you posted, while I agree is true, I argue is misleading for the Christians who know little about Islam, along with not being valid points to bring up against Islam in so far as debating is concerned.I myself have not had the opportunity to go to the middle east. My x-pastor has, but that's not me. Perhaps one day I will, though I doubt it. The Muslims I have spoken to and evangelized, are those here in Canada. They know their religion as I know mine. Just as when one of their friends would attack me with the question of the Gospel of Barnabas, and they put their heads down in shame, I also put my head down in shame when one brings such a weak point as this against Islam.You cannot attack Islam on the grounds that people have killed other people in the Third World, many of whom were Muslim. That is ridiculous.My point is that your posts do not do anything good. They don't make Christians more prepared to tackle the falsehood of Islam. They don't make Christians more ready to evangelize. They don't make Christians more aware of the Religion itself. They don't bring Muslims closer to considering the truth of the Gospel.I see nothing useful or good in your posts except an innocent purity, or zeal. Zeal perhaps misused. Now, please understand, I don't mean to insult you or come off abrasive. However, I would never send a Muslim to you if this is all you would present to them. I would never send a Christian wishing to learn about Islam to you either. I generally tell Christians to go to Muslims and ask them about their faith. Ask for a Qur'an and they will gladly give you one, then you can study it for yourself, and if you need help, I'm here. That's what I tell people.I do not mean to be insulting. I simply am stunned and saddened by your posts. Not because they aren't true, but because these are the points you bring up against Islam. I don't know what you've been through, but if a young girl was raped by a Priest and for the rest of her life argued that the Church is evil because of sex scandals and the like, their points would be just as invalid {except that, as you are correct in saying, the source of your examples is likely the old interpretations of the Qur'an itself}. The fact that Muslims have different interpretations means that different interpretations are possible, and thus the Qur'an doesn't necessarily teach that. You can attack the interpretation of Islam in the Middle east with these points, but you cannot tackle Islam as a whole with these points. Even if you could, would you truly wish to approach the subject this way? Is this the best way you have to do this? Have you found no manner more effective and above all loving?All I am saying is that I believe you are feeding hate. What love do you see in your posts? I myself see no love. Please don't take offense. I do not come to offend. I simply want to understand how in the world you consider what you are doing is 'Christian'. Is this how Jesus would have approached it? I can't really get my head around it. You are an intelligent Christian who knows Islam seemingly inside out. How can you be convinced that the manner in which you are preaching is appropriate? How can you be convinced that this manner will bring clarity like the dawn? You aren't even bringing it back to Christ as the central theme. You seem, to me, to simply be attacking Islam for the flaws you see. How? Why? I don't understand it. Is putting Islam down leading anyone closer to Christ? Have you seen Muslims react positively to this? NO; it's not about numbers or pleasing man, but if by the end the Muslim isn't angry with Christ, but instead is upset at what you have said, perhaps you didn't do an awesome job. If nobody has ever reacted by coming closer to the Truth, then perhaps you are pushing them away.Now, you don't have to listen to me. If you are convinced that the manner in which you are teaching Christians, and evangelizing Muslims, is correct, then ignore me. I, however, am likewise convinced that these posts will never and would never, save by some miraculous act of God, bring any Muslim closer, or bring any Christian clarity.~Truth without love is brutality.
 

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Correction. Christianity in the hands of Catholics.
Don't be silly. It was Christianity in the hands of Christians. Catholics are Christian. I say that with great conviction, having studied the Catechism and with knowledge of their doctrines. I don't agree with all the doctrines, but I find myself in greater disagreement with many other denominations. Catholics WERE the Christians back then. Yes, there were others, but Roman Catholics have stood as a stunning example of Christians, throughout the ages. Don't be narrow minded or fooled. I used to be anti-Catholic. Then I studied and grew up. There is absolutely nothing in catholicism which is by any means unchristian.
 
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