dragonfly said:
1 Chronicles 2:55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.
Hemath is actually Chammath, a city in the area alloted to Naphtali. But this 1 Chron.2:55 verse was after these Kenites had joined within Israel.
Jer 35:10-11
10 But we have dwelt in tents, and have obeyed, and done according to all that Jonadab our father commanded us.
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But it came to pass, when Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon came up into the land, that we said, Come, and let us go to Jerusalem for fear of the army of the Chaldeans, and for fear of the army of the Syrians: so we dwell at Jerusalem.
(KJV)
Just prior to Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, coming upon Jerusalem, those Kenites left their lands and wanderings out of fear, and went to Jerusalem for protection under Judah (it didn't help).
1 Sam 15:5-7
5 And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.
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And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye shewed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.
7 And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.
(KJV)
That Scripture shows those Kenites dwelt among the Amalakites (descendents of Esau), with Saul warning them to escape his coming attack upon the Amalkites, since the Kenites were kind to Israel when the children of Israel trekked through the desert to go into the land of Canaan. That's another Scripture showing the Kenites were not of the children of Israel, but were also in lands Israel sojourned through on the way to Canaan.
It must be understood that Israel failed to destroy all the Canaanite nations God commanded Israel to literally destroy (Deut.20). Per Judges 2 & 3, Joshua 9, and 1 Kings 9, those of the Canaanite nations Israel did not destroy became bondservants to Israel. The Kenites lived in the deserts of Sinai, Midian, Edom, i.e., areas south of Judea all the way down to the Sinai peninsula. They were wanderers in the desert.
Num 24:21-22
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And he looked on the Kenites, and took up his parable, and said, Strong is thy dwellingplace, and thou puttest thy nest in a rock.
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Nevertheless the Kenite shall be wasted, until Asshur shall carry thee away captive.
(KJV)
That was a parable about Israel conquering their lands, as God had promised to Israel the lands of Canaan. So it shows those Kenites were in the lands of Canaan too, like the Gen.15 especially does:
Gen 15:18-21
18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
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The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,
20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,
21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.
(KJV)
Judg 1:16-17
16 And the children of the Kenite, Moses' father in law, went up out of the city of palm trees with the children of Judah into the wilderness of Judah, which lieth in the south of Arad; and they went and dwelt among the people.
17 And Judah went with Simeon his brother, and they slew the Canaanites that inhabited Zephath, and utterly destroyed it. And the name of the city was called Hormah.
(KJV)
Mose's father-in-law was actually a Midianite priest (Exo.3:1). So he was not of the Kenites, but a Midianite having dwelt among the lands of Kenites that lived in the same areas, i.e., like those in the above 1 Sam.15 Scripture which lived among the Amalekites. The lands of Midian were east of the Jordan and reached all the way down to the Sinai peninsula.
Purity said:
Yes and for the gentile Christian the equivalent is Jas 1:8 (two souled)
Your last sentence didn't ring any bells. Where in the context of our discussion have you been led to believe I worship men?
You would agree its an odd conclusion you have drawn too?
Purity
Nothing missed Veteran that I can see.
The term "Canaanite" is used in this verse for ecclesiastical traders, such as the clergy of Christendom, and all purveyors of religious error and apostasy. The use of this word throughout Scripture illustrates that fact. When Abraham entered the Land of Promise, the record states that "the Canaanite was then in the land" Gen 12:6.
The word "Canaanite" comes from a root kana signifying "to bend the knee," hence to pretend humility, and thus a trader seeking to persuade his client to purchase his wares. Because of this, the RSV renders the word in Zec 14:21 as "trader."
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That's some of the biggest BULL I've ever heard.
Gen 10:15-20
15 And Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn, and Heth,
16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite,
17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,
18 And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad.
19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.
20 These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.
(KJV)
The Canaanites were peoples that lived in the lands which God gave to Israel when they left Egypt. They were offspring of Ham's son Canaan.
And the majority of them INDEED BENT THE KNEE TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL.
But not all of them did, and the ones that haven't still exist today, and are joined within Judah's ranks.
That's what that last verse of Zech.14 is about, how when Christ sets up His de facto reign over all nations on this earth in our near future, those leftover remnants of Canaanites that crept in... among Israel, will be CAST OUT OF HIS HOUSE.
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