A bit of a mess in the White House.

Reggie Belafonte · Apr 2, 2025

Lizbeth said:
It's based on simple observation. We in Canada have somehow mysteriously just ended up with a new Liberal Prime Minister who identifies as European and has lived and worked over in Europe up until recently and there has already been talk and hints about joining the EU because of the tariffs. First thing he did as new PM was to fly over to Europe to greet Macron and King Charles. Hmmm.....oh dear.

This tariff war and threat of annexing Canada has also (apparently, if the media or the polls are to believed) detrimentally affected the polls in favour of the woke Liberal party. The more sensible Conservatives had gained and been way ahead of the Liberals up until that. We have a federal election at the end of this month. I hope for your sakes too that America first doesn't end up meaning America alone. Hope your administration down there is considering all the domino affects of what they are doing. The tariffs and "stick-it-to-you" rhetoric are affecting more things than just money.

Anyway.....the "good and evil" of this fallen world. What might seem good in one way can turn out to be evil in other ways. It's all in God's hands. Only His blessing addeth no sorrow to it......... if/when He is blessing.

Canada needs to change to a Conservative Party now, to save Canadans ! well it's been dominated by Satanic Socialist for far to long ! the same is with France, for the Socialist have been undermining the real Canadians and French for how long now, shafting them all with Satanic ends in fact !
In France Their own Socialist Party have openly said that they hate the French ! That is their main intention, to destroy the original people of the Lands and full it up with trash who hate the Nations real people and it is in full swing all over Europe ! Denmark as well is full of trash that hate the Danes as well and backed up 100% by Socialist Governments who are Hell bent on underming what was once their pride of Denmark ! It's the same deal in every Nation in the West ! Australia as well is attacked by the same Socialist filthy Whore who bags averything that built the Nation up, it's History is bastardised no end by the Satanic Cultural Marxist Socialist ! for what, The lowest common denominator trash who are made out to be Hero's ! for they can not even turn up to work, they have no work ethic, they are a joke ! a bunch of dead beats with no etics worth jack ! How could they run a Nation ? they can not ! Communism will only dominate over them.

So looks like only the USA will be the land of the free with Trump setting it up to be free from all such Satanic cultural Marxist Socialist dingbats !

You all know that issue regarding the Tariffs, is not Trumps fault at all in fact, but others leachers who only want to take advantage of the USA in fact ! It was clearly the USA Tax payer who was paying the price and the rest are just like freeloaders in fact ! who now only want to bite the hand that feeds them in fact !

Message to all Nations, Vote your Socialst Partys out of Office, for they are clearly Satanist !

Reggie Belafonte · Apr 2, 2025

Triumph1300 said:
All four a bunch of ungodly money and power hungry politicians.

You only just worked that out ? that's the way it's always been. not all ! but do not be suprised.

But what does Trump get out of it ? does he need the money and at his age ? why put up with being totaly attacked 24/7 by every Shark in the Swamp. Who could put up with such a relentless pounding attacks and at that age !

Trump is the Greatest !
The future for blacks in the USA will have jobs soon and a future that does not involve nothing but a life that's leading to Drugs and crime, as with all USA people will have a future now.

How great Trump is !

ProDeo · Apr 3, 2025

Triumph1300 said:
All four a bunch of ungodly money and power hungry politicians.

New tariffs here, but our export to US is only 5%, how is that in Canada?

Wrangler · Apr 3, 2025

ProDeo said:
New tariffs here, but our export to US is only 5%, how is that in Canada?

The % of trade is not the issue but % of tariff against US interests. What % tariff does your country, the Netherlands, impose on US goods?

Lizbeth · Apr 3, 2025

Wrangler said:
Better hell rain down in Tehran than America or Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East.

The point is that it's the job of earthly governments to deal with such things, not the body of CHRIST. HIS kingdom, to which we belong, is not of this world.

Lizbeth · Apr 3, 2025

marks said:
Well, I have to admit, I've been a bit perplexed at what you and t1300 and tlhkaj have been saying, way over the top, so why not me, eh?

Unless you are actually projecting that angst onto me, that could be it, right? The more I think about it, the more I think I'm saying things that aren't well received, and it's easier to just say I'm mad or something.

Anyway, I think you guys have enough trouble with you own country, and you are not qualified to speak of ours. Obviously there is a huge difference in awareness between the person who lives here and the person who doesn't.

Your voices are just like all the leftist voices that are trying to drown us here. No need for this to continue. Maybe I should have said that a few pages ago.

I've gotten more used to the gaslighting and projection and misrepresentation from the leftists here, I don't need it on the "Christian" forum.

Much love!

It's how you are coming across. I'm not leftist, and I would much rather see honesty and integrity in government and wise and sensible policies rather than destructive ones. That is such a rare thing in all of mankind's sad and often horrible history. The last couple of generations has had things unbelievably good....maybe the world hasn't seen the like since King David sat the throne in Israel. But unfortunately we're going the same way our example Israel went, who forgot God, and tried to mix Him up with the world's ways (ways of the heathen) and so can expect the same judgments, since the Lord doesn't change. That crew in Washington laying hands on the President should be taking the opportunity to preach and exhort and call the nation and church to repentance.....instead they are cheering on earthly government policies. Don't you see a problem there?

Wrangler · Apr 3, 2025

Lizbeth said:
The point is that it's the job of earthly governments to deal with such things, not the body of CHRIST. HIS kingdom, to which we belong, is not of this world.

Yet, this thread is about the job of Earthly governments. Everything else is a distraction.

Trump is doing a great job! A recent poll on his handling of the border showed 75% approval rating. Te Leftists propagandist who reported the poll even said an approval rating that high in American politics is unheard of these days. You must concede how deeply polarized our country's has been for a generation. It makes governing, either way, increasingly untenable.

It's Ukraine's war, not ours. Trump is smart to withdraw US support as we never should have gotten involved in the first place. Said differently, Biden's policy to go along with NATO globalists was wrong and not in America's interests.

A nuclear armed Iran, on the other hand, has only 2 targets. They don't chant, "Death to America! Death to Israel." For nothing. While @Triumph1300 criticizes how Trump is MAGA, putting our financial house in order and making America safe again, he offers no solutions. You both have TDS! "Orange man bad" is the mantra but what you're for is lost. You're both just obstructionists, election deniers and a threat to democracy. Trump's policies is what Americans want. And complaining about him is not helpful.

Wrangler · Apr 3, 2025

Lizbeth said:
I'm not leftist

Lizbeth · Apr 3, 2025

Wrangler said:
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Yes right. That's why I generally vote Conservative and why I agree with most of your Republican policies in principle at least. You are not getting what I and others have been saying at all. No ears to hear I assume. That's ok, those who know the Lord and follow Him understand.

I would have thought of all people that conservative evangelicals and in America of all places, would be against the mixing of church and state. This is such a red flag......not a good sign for the evangelical church.

mailmandan · Apr 3, 2025

When and how did these tarriffs become so out of balance and unfair for the US and why hasn't anything been done sooner to balance the scales in fairness?

Lizbeth · Apr 3, 2025

Wrangler said:
Yet, this thread is about the job of Earthly governments. Everything else is a distraction.

You've got it backwards. The church is being distracted from its mission and mandate by these earthly fears and concerns.

Wrangler said:
rump is doing a great job! A recent poll on his handling of the border showed 75% approval rating. Te Leftists propagandist who reported the poll even said an approval rating that high in American politics is unheard of these days. You must concede how deeply polarized our country's has been for a generation. It makes governing, either way, increasingly untenable.

It's Ukraine's war, not ours. Trump is smart to withdraw US support as we never should have gotten involved in the first place. Said differently, Biden's policy to go along with NATO globalists was wrong and not in America's interests.

A nuclear armed Iran, on the other hand, has only 2 targets. They don't chant, "Death to America! Death to Israel." For nothing.

Happen to agree on these issues in principle.....just my opinion for what it's worth.

Wrangler said:
While @Triumph1300 criticizes how Trump is MAGA, putting our financial house in order and making America safe again, he offers no solutions. You both have TDS! "Orange man bad" is the mantra but what you're for is lost. You're both just obstructionists, election deniers and a threat to democracy. Trump's policies is what Americans want. And complaining about him is not helpful.

I think some people are seeing dangers and pitfalls that you are just blind to.

TLHKAJ · Apr 3, 2025

Lizbeth said:
Yes right. That's why I generally vote Conservative and why I agree with most of your Republican policies in principle at least. You are not getting what I and others have been saying at all. No ears to hear I assume. That's ok, those who know the Lord and follow Him understand.

I would have thought of all people that conservative evangelicals and in America of all places, would be against the mixing of church and state. This is such a red flag......not a good sign for the evangelical church.

Sister, he knows, and the others know that you and I are not "liberal leftists." To them, anyone who doesn't praise and worship Trump is the enemy. I don't see that ever changing. In fact, it will get worse.

Lizbeth · Apr 3, 2025

TLHKAJ said:
Sister, he knows, and the others know that you and I are not "liberal leftists." To them, anyone who doesn't praise and worship Trump is the enemy. I don't see that ever changing. In fact, it will get worse.

So right sister, I hear you. Expect they will be trying to round up all us "obstructionists" who aren't bowing, and throw us in jail or worse pretty soon. That's how the WORLD rolls.

ProDeo · Apr 3, 2025

Wrangler said:
The % of trade is not the issue but % of tariff against US interests. What % tariff does your country, the Netherlands, impose on US goods?

It's impossible to find an answer, all google returns is the explosion of data from the last 2 months. But prices here of typical American products like coca cola, ice cream are not more expensive than comparable non American products. For instance, today I ordered a cheese burger at MacDonald and paid euro 1.90, what do you pay?

Triumph1300 · Apr 3, 2025

Wrangler said:
the poll even said an approval rating that high in American politics is unheard of these days.

Goes to show you how busy satan is these days.

Triumph1300 · Apr 3, 2025

ProDeo said:
New tariffs here, but our export to US is only 5%, how is that in Canada?

I am not sure.
All I know, according what I hear on the news, Canada and Mexico are the biggest trading partners with the US.

Wrangler · Apr 3, 2025

Lizbeth said:
You've got it backwards. The church is being distracted from its mission and mandate by these earthly fears and concerns.

Nope. Different threads have different topics. No one is required to ‘get distracted’ by the various topics.

Lizbeth said:
I think some people are seeing dangers and pitfalls that you are just blind to.

Again, nope. Pest control is needed in any event.

Rockerduck · Apr 3, 2025

Triumph1300 said:
I am not sure.
All I know, according what I hear on the news, Canada and Mexico are the biggest trading partners with the US.

They are all talking now, working things out. I'm sure an agreement will be announced soon. Tariffs are like cough drops, makes you cough up an agreement that should have been done long ago, to benefit everyone. Watch for prices to decrease because of new trade agreements.

marks · Apr 3, 2025

Lizbeth said:
It's how you are coming across.

I've taken that to heart. Whereas something may not sound a certain way to me, I appreciate when someone tells me how I'm sounding to them.

Only, realize, that in the black and white type we don't always see the real emotions behind the words, and may find it's very different from what we first think.

Lizbeth said:
But unfortunately we're going the same way our example Israel went, who forgot God, and tried to mix Him up with the world's ways (ways of the heathen) and so can expect the same judgments, since the Lord doesn't change.

It's a different day and we are not Israel. God make a covenant with one nation, and to apply it to others isn't correct. Did God hold any other nations to the Law He gave to Israel? No, He specifically did not.

Personally I don't think your example is a true match. The kingdom under David was bloody and conflicted as he was conquering the promised land, and the matter with Absalom, the plague for counting the people, and so on.

Solomon's kingdom was considered the pinnacle for ancient Israel. Remember Solomon, given wisdom by God, and he used it to try every pleasure and whim to see if any of it was worth anything. He gathered horses and gold and wives, each specifically prohibited by God. He married heathen women, and worshiped their gods with them. And his kingdom was the golden age of Israel

What's my point? God has more considerations than what we may see. Don't trash my country. We've got a lot better going on now than we've had recently, and that doesn't mean everything is perfect. But I'll say it again. We the people choose a CEO, not a national pastor. Is he perfect? Of course not. But he's better for us than the other guy.

Lizbeth said:
That crew in Washington laying hands on the President should be taking the opportunity to preach and exhort and call the nation and church to repentance.....instead they are cheering on earthly government policies. Don't you see a problem there?

I think both are needed in their own place.

And I'm cheering earthly government policies if they mean that innocent people aren't being put into prison, and if criminals aren't roaming our streets doing what they do without being stopped. If it means more people can afford a better diet, if it means more people can pay rent, if more people are able to speak their mind without retribution, I could go on and on. Who in their right mind wouldn't cheer that? What's wrong with being happy over and encouraging these things?

No, I don't see the problem with that. I'm good with is. And I keep them in my prayers daily, as I seek favor from the King of Kings.

Much love!

marks · Apr 3, 2025

Wrangler said:
It's Ukraine's war, not ours. Trump is smart to withdraw US support as we never should have gotten involved in the first place.

US dollars being sent to Ukraine has prolonged the war. This war has made many people very rich with US dollars, and they don't want the gravy train to stop, even with the destruction of the nation.

Much love!

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