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Do not put your hope in this world, correct.
Of course I agree with these things.
There is a way that seemeth so right to man......it seems right to the natural mind of natural man. We need the mind of Christ, and as believers we know there is only one solution for the ills and evils of this world brother. And that is what the church should be occupied with. If we can help in practical ways then we should do that too as we have means and opportunity. But Jesus didn't give us a mandate to take on governments........our mandate is to get souls saved through the gospel, as many as are appointed to eternal life.
The mind of Christ brings the Law of Love. Serve Christ in loving others, though whatever means God has placed in your disposal. The Bible teaches us to care for others spiritual and and and natural needs, not one to the exclusion of others.
You've never answered me, that I remember, do you believe that no Christian should have a role in human government? That only unbelievers and evildoers should be in leadership roles?
Jesus was actually Who was responsible for Israel being under Roman rule. That was part of their punishment for disobedience, and failure to keep the Law of the Temple as given to Ezekiel. Israel was cast out and put under gentile rule according to God's Law in Leviticus 26.
The American separation of church and state was intended to go one way - that our federal government should not legislate some certain religion as the national religion. Many of the European settlers in the early American colonies came from places where this had happened and moved here as a result.
1st, You keep showing your ignorance of American politics. Under our Constitution, the POTUS does NOT have the authority to enter into treaties; that is the domain of the emissaries of the sovereign States, aka the US Senate.Budapest Memorandum - Wikipedia
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Forgot about that?
The US and some EU countries signed a contract to protect Ukraine.
Biden did.
The EU did.
Trump is about to break that treaty.
A treaty is a treaty and I don't have to be an American expert to understand what that means. Putin the dictator who kills every political opponent (Alexei Navalny and Yevgeny Prigozhin as the last 2 examples) broke the treaty in 2014 taking Ukraine land, the annexation of Crimea because Putin could not live with democratic choice of the majority of the Ukraine people to belong to the EU, starting a war in the east of the country supporting the separatists with Russian weapons and shot MH17 resulting in about 300 deaths, the majority Dutch people, upon this day still denying he (Putin) had nothing to do with the crime while the evidence is overwhelming.
www.rferl.org
<sigh> From your own citation that restricts US action and does not compel US action:
It's called the Budapest Memorandum, not the Budapest Treaty. A memorandum a memorandum and not a treaty. Again, from your own citation:Budapest Memorandum - Wikipedia
I did answer that. I said something along the lines that I believe we should be as Daniel and Joseph in our secular jobs, which are merely practical, and do whatsoever we do as unto the Lord, for His glory.
I don't think there is such a thing as a one-way union. Otherwise it isn't a union. If you're mixing church and state together, it is by definition and nature going to be two-way, and historically it doesn't work out well at all. Just look at the bloody mess England was for centuries.
Separation of church and state does not exist in our constitution. There is a clause to not prevent the free exercise of religion. President Obama told churches that if they preach politics, they will lose their 503c status. That backed churches off but should not have. Churches have the right to preach the gospel and warn of pollical views. A pastor leads a church in Christ discipleship and should not be required to put their head in the sand. If abortion is wrong, the church should say it without fear. The church stands against immorality and the Obama administration was out to punish anyone who disagreed with "woke", and DEI policies. He lit the White House with rainbow colors. Anti-Christ he was.
Gotta agree with ya Rockerduck!
I have this distinct impression you are seeing stereotypes and not seeing me. But that's the way forums go, I suppose!
If I remember my history lessons, the idea was that the state would not be allowed to elevate one Christian denomination over another, lest we end up with something like the Church of England.
I don't know if it is explicitly enshrined in your Constitution or not, I just know it used to be generally understood, even I have understood it for as long as I can remember, it was discussed in high school, and I'm not a scholar of any kind. But like a lot of wisdom it appears to be wisdom that is being lost these days.
